FA Buggering up junior football
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XM5ER said:
If i can drop into this topic and ask a question that is related. How on earth does the scouting system work. I've been on the periphery of mini soccer/youth football now for the last 4 years and in that time I have seen two scouts at matches. And yet, I know of lots of kids that have been (and gone) from various NW football academies.
I suspect that these kids parents are touting their kids around themselves, can anyone confirm if this is the normal way of things?
It is relatively unusual for scouts in person to arrive at matches, but does happen, depends what league your are in. My league has five divisions for youth football per age group. Scouts are unlikely to go to anything outside the top division. I suspect that these kids parents are touting their kids around themselves, can anyone confirm if this is the normal way of things?
Secondly many clubs run tournaments - scouts like tournaments as they can watch a lot of players on a day, they have their favorites.
Finally some "clubs" are actually highly elitist, professionally coached set ups, where they are effectively streaming, selecting constantly and are hot housing talent. One of these setups tried to join ou league recently, I think they won one game 15 - 0 and another 19 - 0. What is the point, there is no development opportunity on either side of such fixtures. These types of set ups are really expensive to play for, usually well coached and most players their will be scouted at some point.
The tactic usually is to run a half term or summer football camp for next to no money - say £20 for three days football. Your kid has a lovely time, the best kids will get follow up calls inviting them for trials. As has happened to around half a dozen of my clubs players over the last year (at under sixes)
It is very rare that a "proper" scout in a sheepskin arrives and watches a match, in seven years of coaching I have known of it happening about four times. (they didn't wear a sheepskin though)
Gargamel said:
It is relatively unusual for scouts in person to arrive at matches, but does happen, depends what league your are in. My league has five divisions for youth football per age group. Scouts are unlikely to go to anything outside the top division.
Secondly many clubs run tournaments - scouts like tournaments as they can watch a lot of players on a day, they have their favorites.
Finally some "clubs" are actually highly elitist, professionally coached set ups, where they are effectively streaming, selecting constantly and are hot housing talent. One of these setups tried to join ou league recently, I think they won one game 15 - 0 and another 19 - 0. What is the point, there is no development opportunity on either side of such fixtures. These types of set ups are really expensive to play for, usually well coached and most players their will be scouted at some point.
The tactic usually is to run a half term or summer football camp for next to no money - say £20 for three days football. Your kid has a lovely time, the best kids will get follow up calls inviting them for trials. As has happened to around half a dozen of my clubs players over the last year (at under sixes)
It is very rare that a "proper" scout in a sheepskin arrives and watches a match, in seven years of coaching I have known of it happening about four times. (they didn't wear a sheepskin though)
They are obliged to wear the kit of the club they represent along with FA ID, I'm told. I have only seen one at a league match, the others I've seen were at a tournament and that makes sense. So am I right in assuming that the kids I know that are at academies got there as a result of the parents ringing up and saying have a look at my lad? Secondly many clubs run tournaments - scouts like tournaments as they can watch a lot of players on a day, they have their favorites.
Finally some "clubs" are actually highly elitist, professionally coached set ups, where they are effectively streaming, selecting constantly and are hot housing talent. One of these setups tried to join ou league recently, I think they won one game 15 - 0 and another 19 - 0. What is the point, there is no development opportunity on either side of such fixtures. These types of set ups are really expensive to play for, usually well coached and most players their will be scouted at some point.
The tactic usually is to run a half term or summer football camp for next to no money - say £20 for three days football. Your kid has a lovely time, the best kids will get follow up calls inviting them for trials. As has happened to around half a dozen of my clubs players over the last year (at under sixes)
It is very rare that a "proper" scout in a sheepskin arrives and watches a match, in seven years of coaching I have known of it happening about four times. (they didn't wear a sheepskin though)
I'm a little dubious of the academies as they are, on the whole, utterly cut throat and seem to treat the kids like battery hens. Plus I know two former premiership players who think it best to keep their kids away from the academies until they are at least 11.
XM5ER said:
They are obliged to wear the kit of the club they represent along with FA ID, I'm told. I have only seen one at a league match, the others I've seen were at a tournament and that makes sense. So am I right in assuming that the kids I know that are at academies got there as a result of the parents ringing up and saying have a look at my lad?
I'm a little dubious of the academies as they are, on the whole, utterly cut throat and seem to treat the kids like battery hens. Plus I know two former premiership players who think it best to keep their kids away from the academies until they are at least 11.
Any proper scout ought to identify themselves to the club whom they are visiting, and it is pretty serious if they don't. I'm a little dubious of the academies as they are, on the whole, utterly cut throat and seem to treat the kids like battery hens. Plus I know two former premiership players who think it best to keep their kids away from the academies until they are at least 11.
The Academies will take anyone for a trial, but if they don't think you have the right stuff they will drop you very quickly, many academy coaches I have met are unreconstructed "football" people who are precisely the ones the FA are trying to drive out of youth development (rightly so).
My club are trying to create a life long love of sport and participation, we develop skills, team ethos, enjoyment and most importantly we don't focus on building "competitive" sides until around age 11. There is plenty of time to focus on performance and competition later on. In the early years it is just not required in my view, we run mixed ability sides, we focus on development and encourage the fun element. If parents think that little johnny is a future pro footballer they are very welcome to send him to an academy. We positively encourage our talent to perform and we like to win of course, but not at the expense of participation for all our players.
Despite what was said above, I don't know of anyone ringing up a Pro club academy and getting a trial, let alone being signed that way. Any enquiries are likely to be ignored, especially at Cat 1 or 2 level. Once in the system, scouts know of the player, the name gets around and the merry-go round of release/retain/trial starts again.
The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
sjc said:
Despite what was said above, I don't know of anyone ringing up a Pro club academy and getting a trial, let alone being signed that way. Any enquiries are likely to be ignored, especially at Cat 1 or 2 level. Once in the system, scouts know of the player, the name gets around and the merry-go round of release/retain/trial starts again.
The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
Sorry SJC to be clear I am using the Academies phrase in the wrong way, you are think of pro club academies (rightly) The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
We have a number of setups near us that are expensive "football academies" not linked to a pro club but trying to cash in on the desire of pushy parents to see little johnny in a more exclusive or elite squad.
Interesting that your son's initial route in was exactly as I described...a holiday style club as an entry, then invited to train, and scouted from that schools contacts.
We do tend to catch alot off-side
Im not being cruel but i think its more of a fitness and unable to read runs, rather than playing for it.
and to be honest the refs are all kids anyway so other than mention it to a linesman there no point ranting and raving about it.
weve gone back to a smaller pitch after playing full adult size, this is just a change of ground to be honest.
but i know it will help, keeper can barely kick out of his area sometimes.
we had them doing set pieces because we haven't done it before, ever, which i found bizarre.
whenever there's a free kick, throw in etc, they look to the manager cluelessly , the idea behind us teaching it was to teach them to get a bit more physical rather than playing statues, when one comes floating over.
Plus we now have one wall maker, and someone to stand on the ball.
the training i did with them consisted of some jogging, with bursts of speed, some set pieces, then a game on our astro. for 30-40 mins, followed by a churchillesque war cry speech.
anyway, different keeper this weekend and were at home against a team that were like us but have improved so we will see how we get on.
Its the ultimate problem, do you tel a few youe not welocme anymore so that you can get some decent ones in or do you try and work with what you have?
Im not being cruel but i think its more of a fitness and unable to read runs, rather than playing for it.
and to be honest the refs are all kids anyway so other than mention it to a linesman there no point ranting and raving about it.
weve gone back to a smaller pitch after playing full adult size, this is just a change of ground to be honest.
but i know it will help, keeper can barely kick out of his area sometimes.
we had them doing set pieces because we haven't done it before, ever, which i found bizarre.
whenever there's a free kick, throw in etc, they look to the manager cluelessly , the idea behind us teaching it was to teach them to get a bit more physical rather than playing statues, when one comes floating over.
Plus we now have one wall maker, and someone to stand on the ball.
the training i did with them consisted of some jogging, with bursts of speed, some set pieces, then a game on our astro. for 30-40 mins, followed by a churchillesque war cry speech.
anyway, different keeper this weekend and were at home against a team that were like us but have improved so we will see how we get on.
Its the ultimate problem, do you tel a few youe not welocme anymore so that you can get some decent ones in or do you try and work with what you have?
sjc said:
Despite what was said above, I don't know of anyone ringing up a Pro club academy and getting a trial, let alone being signed that way. Any enquiries are likely to be ignored, especially at Cat 1 or 2 level. Once in the system, scouts know of the player, the name gets around and the merry-go round of release/retain/trial starts again.
The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
That's a very interesting article and from the little I know about "professional" football, it does not surprise me and reflects a few other stories I've heard. The kids I know that go to the academies (Premiership club ones) do seem to have got there on a nod and wink via their parents contacts rather than a direct phone call or from being scouted at a match. This isn't sour grapes by the way, these are good little players and deserve a shot but I see other kids as good or occasionally better that seem to be missed. From what I can see, the system could do with a bit of a shake up, in the NW at least. Maybe it will become more formal as the kids get older (under 10s at present).The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
Gargamel said:
Sorry SJC to be clear I am using the Academies phrase in the wrong way, you are think of pro club academies (rightly)
We have a number of setups near us that are expensive "football academies" not linked to a pro club but trying to cash in on the desire of pushy parents to see little johnny in a more exclusive or elite squad.
Interesting that your son's initial route in was exactly as I described...a holiday style club as an entry, then invited to train, and scouted from that schools contacts.
There are quite a few of those coaches/academies around here, all claiming to be connected to one big club or another. The club my boy is in has superb facilities and they are the (unofficial) top team in the county having only lost two matches last season but the coaching last year was atrocious. It started very well last year with a guy from Barcelona who was amazing and a real inspiration to the lads but he had to leave (we never did find out why but suspect it was due to premiership coaching commitments). The guy that took over was one of those unreconstructed types you mentioned, shouting "take a touch" was about as technical as he ever got, the lads maintained their lead despite him I think. This season we have a change of coaching again so we'll see how it goes, it looks better so far.We have a number of setups near us that are expensive "football academies" not linked to a pro club but trying to cash in on the desire of pushy parents to see little johnny in a more exclusive or elite squad.
Interesting that your son's initial route in was exactly as I described...a holiday style club as an entry, then invited to train, and scouted from that schools contacts.
At this age group at least, I can see why England is failing to produce any galacticos.
j4ckos mate said:
Its the ultimate problem, do you tel a few youe not welocme anymore so that you can get some decent ones in or do you try and work with what you have?
Personally, I get a far greater sense of achievement as a coach to have developed a player (or players) and won a game with them than to have shipped in talent and won. It might be a longer process, but determination, perseverance and hard work pay off.Gargamel said:
Sorry SJC to be clear I am using the Academies phrase in the wrong way, you are think of pro club academies (rightly)
We have a number of setups near us that are expensive "football academies" not linked to a pro club but trying to cash in on the desire of pushy parents to see little johnny in a more exclusive or elite squad.
Interesting that your son's initial route in was exactly as I described...a holiday style club as an entry, then invited to train, and scouted from that schools contacts.
Although it can sometime work as you describe,when my son signed, 7 of the squad were from one of the top club sides ( age group wise) in the county.We have a number of setups near us that are expensive "football academies" not linked to a pro club but trying to cash in on the desire of pushy parents to see little johnny in a more exclusive or elite squad.
Interesting that your son's initial route in was exactly as I described...a holiday style club as an entry, then invited to train, and scouted from that schools contacts.
XM5ER said:
sjc said:
Despite what was said above, I don't know of anyone ringing up a Pro club academy and getting a trial, let alone being signed that way. Any enquiries are likely to be ignored, especially at Cat 1 or 2 level. Once in the system, scouts know of the player, the name gets around and the merry-go round of release/retain/trial starts again.
The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
That's a very interesting article and from the little I know about "professional" football, it does not surprise me and reflects a few other stories I've heard. The kids I know that go to the academies (Premiership club ones) do seem to have got there on a nod and wink via their parents contacts rather than a direct phone call or from being scouted at a match. This isn't sour grapes by the way, these are good little players and deserve a shot but I see other kids as good or occasionally better that seem to be missed. From what I can see, the system could do with a bit of a shake up, in the NW at least. Maybe it will become more formal as the kids get older (under 10s at present).The scouting network is such now, that it's highly unlikely that anyone with genuine ability is likely to escape the net, it's also true that it can be brutal mentally for kids, some academies being far worse than others.I'd also agree with the comment that some pro's own kids are held back 'til 11 years of age or so.
As said above, scouts don't look like scouts, and it's also worth noting that until the start of last season, most Pro academy games were ticket only with the intention of them not spying on other clubs kids.
My own son was on a 5 day course run by PASS,a soccer school based in Essex,whose directors and coaches are generally ex-pro's with links to various clubs. The keeper coach there had links to WHU, where my son subsequently signed at U'9's in 2011.
This however will give you an insight as to what it can be like.....and I tend to believe the tale.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/parents-warning-foo...
To coin a cliché, football is all about opinions, and I've seen enough academy football now over the last 4 years to work out what they look for in a kid. It's not the kid who on a Sunday can beat 4 players, look great from the parents view on the touchline but not make a 3 yard pass because he didn't have the brain, it's not the biggest powerhouse kid,(they can play down/up a year at Academy level) or the kid that can do the most keepy-uppys in the street.
As I said earlier, the scouting network is such now, that's kids who have what they look for rarely get missed.
I must say we had 20 kids down last night.
we had the trainer from the adults set up training them along with me and another father.
go them playing two sets of five vs five and passing and moving,
then gradulaly open the grid up, press ups and some planking followed by a game
was good, will keep you all updated with sundays game
we had the trainer from the adults set up training them along with me and another father.
go them playing two sets of five vs five and passing and moving,
then gradulaly open the grid up, press ups and some planking followed by a game
was good, will keep you all updated with sundays game
Got beat 10-0.
We didn't play as bad as it sounds
One thing to work on is our passing. It was hoofing it away without looking for the pass
We have to be more composed., we seem to panic abit with the ball
I put that down to the manager constantly balling at them
How can we get rid of thar nervousness ?
We didn't play as bad as it sounds
One thing to work on is our passing. It was hoofing it away without looking for the pass
We have to be more composed., we seem to panic abit with the ball
I put that down to the manager constantly balling at them
How can we get rid of thar nervousness ?
j4ckos mate said:
How can we get rid of thar nervousness ?
Being 'bawled' at for making a mistake isn't helping, create an environment where a player isn't afraid of making mistakes and you'll find they don't make many.Try some sessions where the players play through the thirds, in each third give the players some pointers of what they could do with the ball in a specific situation and challenge them to create more as the picture develops, as no scenario is the same as the last.
Play small sided games in tight area's, give each team a different objective. For example, Blue team must make 5 consecutive passes, red team can go straight to goal if they can win the ball. Swap the teams over regularly taking the break in play to discuss what they have learnt and what they could do better.
As Wildcards says, it's not so much the nervousness, but more the (lack of) control of the ball, and the best way is to run some exercises as per WCs post above ^^^
In the given scenario rather than just hoof the ball away and all the risks that comes with it, teach them to control the ball then make a pass to a team mate away from danger, or worst-case, kick it out for a throw-in. This then gives them a few seconds to re-group and get behind the ball.
In the given scenario rather than just hoof the ball away and all the risks that comes with it, teach them to control the ball then make a pass to a team mate away from danger, or worst-case, kick it out for a throw-in. This then gives them a few seconds to re-group and get behind the ball.
Not sure whether this thread was the inspiration to take up the challenge, or the thing that woke me up at 5am Sunday morning fretting about the day to come.
Nobody looked like they were going to start a team for my youngest sons age group, and he has been keen to start playing, having watched his big brother play for the last couple of years. So up I step, throw my hat in the ring, fully expecting someone else with more football experience to leap in at the last moment and takeover.
As yet, no one has.
So yesterday was our first match day. We put a good shift in, scoring two, but not yet sure of our positions on the pitch. Ended up too flat across the midfield, so every time the opposition broke through, they were clear on goal. Conceded six, but after an encouraging word, the lads walked off the pitch looking like they'd had a good time.
Back to training to work on our organisation, which may be easier said than done with six year olds!
Nobody looked like they were going to start a team for my youngest sons age group, and he has been keen to start playing, having watched his big brother play for the last couple of years. So up I step, throw my hat in the ring, fully expecting someone else with more football experience to leap in at the last moment and takeover.
As yet, no one has.
So yesterday was our first match day. We put a good shift in, scoring two, but not yet sure of our positions on the pitch. Ended up too flat across the midfield, so every time the opposition broke through, they were clear on goal. Conceded six, but after an encouraging word, the lads walked off the pitch looking like they'd had a good time.
Back to training to work on our organisation, which may be easier said than done with six year olds!
vladcjelli said:
Not sure whether this thread was the inspiration to take up the challenge, or the thing that woke me up at 5am Sunday morning fretting about the day to come.
Nobody looked like they were going to start a team for my youngest sons age group, and he has been keen to start playing, having watched his big brother play for the last couple of years. So up I step, throw my hat in the ring, fully expecting someone else with more football experience to leap in at the last moment and takeover.
As yet, no one has.
So yesterday was our first match day. We put a good shift in, scoring two, but not yet sure of our positions on the pitch. Ended up too flat across the midfield, so every time the opposition broke through, they were clear on goal. Conceded six, but after an encouraging word, the lads walked off the pitch looking like they'd had a good time.
Back to training to work on our organisation, which may be easier said than done with six year olds!
Good Man, this is the age group I coach, - I assume you are playing mini football rules and so only have five a side ? Nobody looked like they were going to start a team for my youngest sons age group, and he has been keen to start playing, having watched his big brother play for the last couple of years. So up I step, throw my hat in the ring, fully expecting someone else with more football experience to leap in at the last moment and takeover.
As yet, no one has.
So yesterday was our first match day. We put a good shift in, scoring two, but not yet sure of our positions on the pitch. Ended up too flat across the midfield, so every time the opposition broke through, they were clear on goal. Conceded six, but after an encouraging word, the lads walked off the pitch looking like they'd had a good time.
Back to training to work on our organisation, which may be easier said than done with six year olds!
They do tend to be quite open high scoring games, especially as goalies apart from a few exceptions tend not too save many.
The critical position is to have a sweeper, who doesn't go forward much, never into the opponents half. If you can get a player to understand the sweeper role, you will fix most of your problems in being caught with everyone up field.
Clearly they are learning everything at this age, skill, position, tactics, fitness, rules, sportsmanship and of course about team work - so the results are kind of secondary !
I don't see much of a future for our u15s,
manager is happy for everyone to play regardless of ability,
he has to say this because his own son is not so clever in goal.
there are a three groups really,
those that have been here for years, aren't bothered will keep coming anyway
those that want to improve but don't get the game time.
those that are a dogs dinner, but play as much as all the others.
fair dos at five or six, but of your keeping score then surely you have to win??
so assuming that my lad feels the same we will give it till xmas if they don't scrape a couple before then, then realistically its time to move on i think.
im not saying my lad his decent, hes probably in the top third but has good and bad days like everyone else, its the getting hammered expectation thats a worry for me.
its a life thing not just kids footy.
manager is happy for everyone to play regardless of ability,
he has to say this because his own son is not so clever in goal.
there are a three groups really,
those that have been here for years, aren't bothered will keep coming anyway
those that want to improve but don't get the game time.
those that are a dogs dinner, but play as much as all the others.
fair dos at five or six, but of your keeping score then surely you have to win??
so assuming that my lad feels the same we will give it till xmas if they don't scrape a couple before then, then realistically its time to move on i think.
im not saying my lad his decent, hes probably in the top third but has good and bad days like everyone else, its the getting hammered expectation thats a worry for me.
its a life thing not just kids footy.
vladcjelli said:
Back to training to work on our organisation, which may be easier said than done with six year olds!
Don't bother, they won't get it and you'll waste time better spent concentrating on other areas.For example;
At U7s & U8s concentrate on the ABCS (Agility, Balance, Coordination & Speed) and individual ball skills (Look at Coerver Coaching & Beast Mode Soccer and adapt to suit).
At U9s & U10s the players will start to naturally work into positions on their own, they'll also be alot more receptive to your formations and tactics.
U11s and beyond, you'll reap the rewards of what you did with them in those early years. It's about long term development, not what improvement you can see from one week to the next. it's tough, but definately worth it.
j4ckos mate said:
I don't see much of a future for our u15s,
manager is happy for everyone to play regardless of ability,
he has to say this because his own son is not so clever in goal.
there are a three groups really,
those that have been here for years, aren't bothered will keep coming anyway
those that want to improve but don't get the game time.
those that are a dogs dinner, but play as much as all the others.
fair dos at five or six, but of your keeping score then surely you have to win??
so assuming that my lad feels the same we will give it till xmas if they don't scrape a couple before then, then realistically its time to move on i think.
im not saying my lad his decent, hes probably in the top third but has good and bad days like everyone else, its the getting hammered expectation thats a worry for me.
its a life thing not just kids footy.
are you in the bottom league?manager is happy for everyone to play regardless of ability,
he has to say this because his own son is not so clever in goal.
there are a three groups really,
those that have been here for years, aren't bothered will keep coming anyway
those that want to improve but don't get the game time.
those that are a dogs dinner, but play as much as all the others.
fair dos at five or six, but of your keeping score then surely you have to win??
so assuming that my lad feels the same we will give it till xmas if they don't scrape a couple before then, then realistically its time to move on i think.
im not saying my lad his decent, hes probably in the top third but has good and bad days like everyone else, its the getting hammered expectation thats a worry for me.
its a life thing not just kids footy.
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