The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 2]

[Cie]

Riff Raff said:

London424 said:

Youth development policy...

When was the last time an academy player came through to the first team? Terry?

Well, on the bench on Saturday we had Ake, Izzy Brown and Loftus-Cheek. Loftus-Cheek came on. Dominic Solanke has also played this year. I'm sure there are others who've got a game this season, but I cant be bothered to go back through the team sheets to answer a fairly poor attempt at a wind-up.

Edited to add, I forgot Christensen was also on the bench on Saturday.

Edited by Riff Raff on Tuesday 3rd February 13:43

So... Terry then?

[GarryDK]

Cie said:

So... Terry then?

True

But look at the amount of Chelsea academy players in the prem currently.

Carlton Cole
Scott Sinclair
Ryan Bertrand
Jack Cork
Robert Huth
Fabio Borini

maybe not world beaters but the youth system is "working" to the extent we are making money from it. I would love to see a great home grown player come through the ranks, and hopefully it will be soon.

[Wadeski]

Black can man said:

m3sye said:

Could it not be as simply as Roman saying pay us 50m (he is only worth 25m) but I will give you the 25m back from another business ?

Or am I being a bit naive ?

What are you trying to say ? that all is not shall we say Kosher ?


Bloody Liverpool fans with their accusing fingers !

Ahhh, you see, this is because of the Chelsea policy of buying players who are "not st".

[Dblue]

Cie said:

Riff Raff said:

London424 said:

Youth development policy...

When was the last time an academy player came through to the first team? Terry?

Well, on the bench on Saturday we had Ake, Izzy Brown and Loftus-Cheek. Loftus-Cheek came on. Dominic Solanke has also played this year. I'm sure there are others who've got a game this season, but I cant be bothered to go back through the team sheets to answer a fairly poor attempt at a wind-up.

Edited to add, I forgot Christensen was also on the bench on Saturday.

Edited by Riff Raff on Tuesday 3rd February 13:43

So... Terry then?

At Chelsea, perhaps him alone for a long while but the clubs youth teams are all at the top their respective leagues as of today, 3 FA Youth cup wins and 2 runners up spots in the last few years.
To make it at Chelsea the player has to be good enough to be in a team that is top of the league and capable of making at least the last 4 of the champions league EVERY year. This is not an environment in which a callow youth is likely to succeed.

Its a dilemma for the club that they have not quite solved for sure. But the quality of the coaching and player development between 10 years of age and U21 is at least as good as anyone else in the country. In fact the massive goal heavy hammerings they are dishing out in youth games this year suggests they are actually improving relative to other academies. thats a scary thought.

Ironic that Southampton (Who also have an excellent academy and a better record of getting them into the team than CFC) have had as many graduates of Chelsea's youth set up as their own in the PL this year. Jack Cork and Ryan Bertrand both Chelsea lads.

But their recruitment and scouting has been the best in the country for the last 4 years I would say and one of the benefits of this is that our fringe players are clearly coveted by other clubs and we get top dollar because we do not need to sell.

[Amirhussain]

[trackdemon]

Amirhussain said:

Good team that, what's the point?

[London424]

trackdemon said:

Amirhussain said:

Good team that, what's the point?

It's all the players Jose has sold/shipped out since he's been back.

[ManFromDelmonte]

Torres can't even get in that side.

[Amirhussain]

London424 said:

trackdemon said:

Amirhussain said:

Good team that, what's the point?

It's all the players Jose has sold/shipped out since he's been back.

Yeah, should've wrote that... Not a bad sold XI.

[trackdemon]

London424 said:

It's all the players Jose has sold/shipped out since he's been back.

Indeed; was just wondering if it was somebody trying to to the piss as is usual in this thread An interesting illustration to the naysayers that we are doing good business, in the right way....

[Wadeski]

Dblue said:

Cie said:

Riff Raff said:

London424 said:

Youth development policy...

When was the last time an academy player came through to the first team? Terry?

Well, on the bench on Saturday we had Ake, Izzy Brown and Loftus-Cheek. Loftus-Cheek came on. Dominic Solanke has also played this year. I'm sure there are others who've got a game this season, but I cant be bothered to go back through the team sheets to answer a fairly poor attempt at a wind-up.

Edited to add, I forgot Christensen was also on the bench on Saturday.

Edited by Riff Raff on Tuesday 3rd February 13:43

So... Terry then?

At Chelsea, perhaps him alone for a long while but the clubs youth teams are all at the top their respective leagues as of today, 3 FA Youth cup wins and 2 runners up spots in the last few years.
To make it at Chelsea the player has to be good enough to be in a team that is top of the league and capable of making at least the last 4 of the champions league EVERY year. This is not an environment in which a callow youth is likely to succeed.

Its a dilemma for the club that they have not quite solved for sure. But the quality of the coaching and player development between 10 years of age and U21 is at least as good as anyone else in the country. In fact the massive goal heavy hammerings they are dishing out in youth games this year suggests they are actually improving relative to other academies. thats a scary thought.

Ironic that Southampton (Who also have an excellent academy and a better record of getting them into the team than CFC) have had as many graduates of Chelsea's youth set up as their own in the PL this year. Jack Cork and Ryan Bertrand both Chelsea lads.

But their recruitment and scouting has been the best in the country for the last 4 years I would say and one of the benefits of this is that our fringe players are clearly coveted by other clubs and we get top dollar because we do not need to sell.

Its worth saying that youth development is a slow process. Currently we are putting out prem-quality players, just not ones that stick in our first team. Thats a pretty exceptional result for a program that is, on a timeline of organizational training and change, very new. Academies take years to develop a winning culture, discipline, as well as the physical training regimes.

[London424]

Wadeski said:

Dblue said:

Cie said:

Riff Raff said:

London424 said:

Youth development policy...

When was the last time an academy player came through to the first team? Terry?

Well, on the bench on Saturday we had Ake, Izzy Brown and Loftus-Cheek. Loftus-Cheek came on. Dominic Solanke has also played this year. I'm sure there are others who've got a game this season, but I cant be bothered to go back through the team sheets to answer a fairly poor attempt at a wind-up.

Edited to add, I forgot Christensen was also on the bench on Saturday.

Edited by Riff Raff on Tuesday 3rd February 13:43

So... Terry then?

At Chelsea, perhaps him alone for a long while but the clubs youth teams are all at the top their respective leagues as of today, 3 FA Youth cup wins and 2 runners up spots in the last few years.
To make it at Chelsea the player has to be good enough to be in a team that is top of the league and capable of making at least the last 4 of the champions league EVERY year. This is not an environment in which a callow youth is likely to succeed.

Its a dilemma for the club that they have not quite solved for sure. But the quality of the coaching and player development between 10 years of age and U21 is at least as good as anyone else in the country. In fact the massive goal heavy hammerings they are dishing out in youth games this year suggests they are actually improving relative to other academies. thats a scary thought.

Ironic that Southampton (Who also have an excellent academy and a better record of getting them into the team than CFC) have had as many graduates of Chelsea's youth set up as their own in the PL this year. Jack Cork and Ryan Bertrand both Chelsea lads.

But their recruitment and scouting has been the best in the country for the last 4 years I would say and one of the benefits of this is that our fringe players are clearly coveted by other clubs and we get top dollar because we do not need to sell.

Its worth saying that youth development is a slow process. Currently we are putting out prem-quality players, just not ones that stick in our first team. Thats a pretty exceptional result for a program that is, on a timeline of organizational training and change, very new. Academies take years to develop a winning culture, discipline, as well as the physical training regimes.

It's not like you set it up a couple of years ago now is it?!

I would suggest that most of the big sides are putting out Prem quality players...the true test is them making your own first team surely!

Edited by London424 on Thursday 5th February 13:35

[hornetrider]

ManFromDelmonte said:

Torres can't even get in that side.

[Dblue]

London424 said:

Wadeski said:

Dblue said:

Cie said:

Riff Raff said:

London424 said:

Youth development policy...

When was the last time an academy player came through to the first team? Terry?

Well, on the bench on Saturday we had Ake, Izzy Brown and Loftus-Cheek. Loftus-Cheek came on. Dominic Solanke has also played this year. I'm sure there are others who've got a game this season, but I cant be bothered to go back through the team sheets to answer a fairly poor attempt at a wind-up.

Edited to add, I forgot Christensen was also on the bench on Saturday.

Edited by Riff Raff on Tuesday 3rd February 13:43

So... Terry then?

At Chelsea, perhaps him alone for a long while but the clubs youth teams are all at the top their respective leagues as of today, 3 FA Youth cup wins and 2 runners up spots in the last few years.
To make it at Chelsea the player has to be good enough to be in a team that is top of the league and capable of making at least the last 4 of the champions league EVERY year. This is not an environment in which a callow youth is likely to succeed.

Its a dilemma for the club that they have not quite solved for sure. But the quality of the coaching and player development between 10 years of age and U21 is at least as good as anyone else in the country. In fact the massive goal heavy hammerings they are dishing out in youth games this year suggests they are actually improving relative to other academies. thats a scary thought.

Ironic that Southampton (Who also have an excellent academy and a better record of getting them into the team than CFC) have had as many graduates of Chelsea's youth set up as their own in the PL this year. Jack Cork and Ryan Bertrand both Chelsea lads.

But their recruitment and scouting has been the best in the country for the last 4 years I would say and one of the benefits of this is that our fringe players are clearly coveted by other clubs and we get top dollar because we do not need to sell.

Its worth saying that youth development is a slow process. Currently we are putting out prem-quality players, just not ones that stick in our first team. Thats a pretty exceptional result for a program that is, on a timeline of organizational training and change, very new. Academies take years to develop a winning culture, discipline, as well as the physical training regimes.

It's not like you set it up a couple of years ago now is it?!

I would suggest that most of the big sides are putting out Pre quality players...the true test is them making your own first team surely!

To a point but CFC are competing at the very top of the game in England and Europe. Its a conundrum for sure how you get them playing enough to develop whilst remaining competitive in the League and Champions league.Its much better to let them play in our first team but not at the expense of being unable to win things.

the club are trying to get them playing regularly at clubs a level below with patchy results but we're not Southampton or dare i say it Spurs who deserve real credit for getting their young players into their teams but neither are trying to win the League or the Champions League either.

And its quite definitely a slow process. The Cobham set up has been evolving over the last 10 years and is getting better and better.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Black can man said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Just back from Aldershot, lost 2-4 to a very good Spuds team. Scoreline flatters us really, they dominated the whole game. They had a guy up front, Harry Kane, looks like a proper player.

Harry Kane....you heard it here first!!

Not sure how to cross post but this is what you said a few years ago.


Good judge sir.

I would've posted that August 2013. Not a bad shout in hindsight.

Awesome performance against the Arse today. Scared the wits out of them every time he got near the ball.

[Wadeski]

Drogba, frankly, looks rubbish so far.

[GT03ROB]

Wadeski said:

Drogba, frankly, looks rubbish so far.

He's been sat on his ass as much as he's been standing up!!

[Alfahorn]

Conceding a goal to Villa, that's humiliating!

[Wadeski]

Fabulous last few games from Iva

[Amirhussain]

Wadeski said:

Fabulous last few games from Iva

City dropping 2 points today too