Official Liverpool FC thread Vol 5 - "Next Year Is Our Year"

[Flip Martian]

jammy_basturd said:

So again, I ask, which Premier League proven goalscorer do you think we could buy?

I don't mind if its someone from the PL or overseas, as long as they have a proven record.

And to be honest, I don't care who it is as long as they score goals. LFC don't pay me to choose, I just hope they are paying people who know what they're doing this time.

[m3sye]

If we could get Ince for say 6/7m (35% we wont pay), Bent Loan, Austin for 5/6m that would not be a bad way to spend 10-12m

We would be adding a whole new attacking force of goals and would go someway to replacing

MAXI
BELLAMY
KUYT's

Goals

[curlie467]

GLENRED said:

Demba Ba 7m

Yep, i would go with this.

[GLENRED]

curlie467 said:

GLENRED said:

Demba Ba 7m

Yep, i would go with this.

I would buy Ince and Ba in January. Probably gonna cost us between 10-12m for both, better options than Sturridge for 15m

[m3sye]

GLENRED said:

I would buy Ince and Ba in January. Probably gonna cost us between 10-12m for both, better options than Sturridge for 15m

Ba - my biggest problem is his knee.... I can see it going badly wrong again soon.

[GLENRED]

m3sye said:

Ba - my biggest problem is his knee.... I can see it going badly wrong again soon.

People have been saying that for 2 years now and how many goals has he scored for West Ham and NUFC?

Still a better buy with 1 knee that Sturridge !

[m3sye]

GLENRED said:

People have been saying that for 2 years now and how many goals has he scored for West Ham and NUFC?

Still a better buy with 1 knee that Sturridge !

You just know our luck though, soon as we buy him. BANG

[n_const]

fked up royally with the Ince saga didnt we ?

Austins goal record in all leagues:

2006–2007 Kintbury Rangers 27 (20)
2007–2008 Hungerford Town 30 (5)
2008–2009 Poole Town 42 (48)
2009–2011 Swindon Town 54 (31)
2011– Burnley 64 (34)

Not a bad record for a 23 year old, but the premiership as we all know is a complete different venture than the lower leagues. Grant Holt is a striker that springs to mind having a good goal record in every league but struggling to think of another.

[SimonRS]

n_const said:

Grant Holt is a striker that springs to mind having a good goal record in every league but struggling to think of another.

Not many are given the chance.

[Smart Mart]

n_const said:

fked up royally with the Ince saga didnt we ?

Austins goal record in all leagues:

2006–2007 Kintbury Rangers 27 (20)
2007–2008 Hungerford Town 30 (5)
2008–2009 Poole Town 42 (48)
2009–2011 Swindon Town 54 (31)
2011– Burnley 64 (34)

Not a bad record for a 23 year old, but the premiership as we all know is a complete different venture than the lower leagues. Grant Holt is a striker that springs to mind having a good goal record in every league but struggling to think of another.

I think Rickie Lambert would be another and he's settled down to life in the Premier League at Southampton.

[m3sye]

n_const said:

fked up royally with the Ince saga didnt we ?

Austins goal record in all leagues:

2006–2007 Kintbury Rangers 27 (20)
2007–2008 Hungerford Town 30 (5)
2008–2009 Poole Town 42 (48)
2009–2011 Swindon Town 54 (31)
2011– Burnley 64 (34)

Not a bad record for a 23 year old, but the premiership as we all know is a complete different venture than the lower leagues. Grant Holt is a striker that springs to mind having a good goal record in every league but struggling to think of another.

Why does it have to be recent? It does not happen now as most dont take a punt like they used too.

John Aldridge
1979–1984 Newport County 170 (70)
1984–1987 Oxford United 114 (72)
1987–1989 Liverpool 83 (50)
1989–1991 Real Sociedad 63 (33)
1991–1998 Tranmere Rovers 243 (138)

Ian Rush
1978–1980 Chester City 34 (14)
1980–1987 Liverpool 224 (139)
1987–1988 Juventus 29 (7)
1988–1996 Liverpool 245 (90)

We will spend millions on a youth player and he might not make it, why not spend a few million on a player who has scored goals at every level bar the prem?

Charlie Austin (23 years of age, 6ft 2)
2006–2007 Kintbury Rangers 27 (20)
2007–2008 Hungerford Town 30 (5)
2008–2009 Poole Town 42 (48)
2009–2011 Swindon Town 54 (31)
2011– Burnley 64 (34) (21 in 22 this year)

[n_const]

Yes but how many can you name ?? Thats my point there are exceptions, but more flops than heroes. If were mentioning people like this why not raid Swansea again and sign Danny Graham ? Is this the type of players the once might Liverpool Fc are looking at signing ?

[fiatpower]

Interesting view point on the proposed champions league/europa league merge:

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/12/dilution-of-c...

[Smart Mart]

n_const said:

Yes but how many can you name ?? Thats my point there are exceptions, but more flops than heroes. If were mentioning people like this why not raid Swansea again and sign Danny Graham ? Is this the type of players the once might Liverpool Fc are looking at signing ?

Not sure if you were replying to me or the other poster but you're right, there aren't too many of them.

Lambert's record is good...

Blackpool - 0 in 3
Macclesfield - 10 in 41+12
Stockport - 19 in 98+12
Rochdale - 28 in 65+3
Bristol Rovers - 59 in 139+16
Southampton - 94 in 164+9
Total - 210 in 510+55 (1 goal per 2.7 games)

Jordan Rhodes has excelled too...

Rochdale - 2 in 5
Brentford - 7 in 14
Huddersfield - 87 in 129+19
Blackburn - 11 in 17
Total 107 in 165+19 (1 goal per 1.7 games)

Charlie Austin's record is prolific enough....

Swindon - 37 in 58+7
Burnley - 38 in 57+15
Total - 75 in 115+22 games (1 goal per 1.8 games)

Grant Holt's for comparison...

Sheffield Wednesday - 4 in 15+15
Rochdale - 42 in 83
Nottm Forest - 24 in 83+26
Blackpool - 0 in 4
Shrewsbury - 28 in 51
Norwich City - 73 in 130+17
Total - 171 in 366+58 games (1 goal per 2.5 games)

Of those four, I'd rule out Holt on the grounds that I don't think he'd fit into Rodgers style of play and both he and Lambert are the north side of thirty. Austin looks good but the one I'd have taken a punt on would be Rhodes. He is sheer quality and will score goals wherever, once settled.

That said, really Liverpool fans might believe they should be shopping in a different store than this which really only leaves proven scorers at the top level. Therefore, you're looking at Bent or Defoe.

Edited by Smart Mart on Tuesday 4th December 16:12

[n_const]

Bit of both in my reply bud lol. I just think Liverpool should be looking at a higher caliber of players, but if they can score goals then id be happy i suppose. Id rather buy Ince & Austin/Lambert than Sturridge

[fiatpower]

n_const said:

Bit of both in my reply bud lol. I just think Liverpool should be looking at a higher caliber of players, but if they can score goals then id be happy i suppose. Id rather buy Ince & Austin/Lambert than Sturridge

Yep I agree. I believe i've said it before but i'd rather spend £12mil + wages on energy drinks for the team over sturridge. Really do not rate him at all.

I'd like to see us get Ince and Bent personally.

[markh1973]

Smart Mart said:

Not sure if you were replying to me or the other poster but you're right, there aren't too many of them.

Lambert's record is good...

Blackpool - 0 in 3
Macclesfield - 10 in 41+12
Stockport - 19 in 98+12
Rochdale - 28 in 65+3
Bristol Rovers - 59 in 139+16
Southampton - 94 in 164+9
Total - 210 in 510+55 (1 goal per 2.7 games)

Jordan Rhodes has excelled too...

Rochdale - 2 in 5
Brentford - 7 in 14
Huddersfield - 87 in 129+19
Blackburn - 11 in 17
Total 107 in 165+19 (1 goal per 1.7 games)

Charlie Austin's record is prolific enough....

Swindon - 37 in 58+7
Burnley - 38 in 57+15
Total - 75 in 115+22 games (1 goal per 1.8 games)

Grant Holt's for comparison...

Sheffield Wednesday - 4 in 15+15
Rochdale - 42 in 83
Nottm Forest - 24 in 83+26
Blackpool - 0 in 4
Shrewsbury - 28 in 51
Norwich City - 73 in 130+17
Total - 171 in 366+58 games (1 goal per 2.5 games)

Of those four, I'd rule out Holt on the grounds that I don't think he'd fit into Rodgers style of play and both he and Lambert are the north side of thirty. Austin looks good but the one I'd have taken a punt on would be Rhodes. He is sheer quality and will score goals wherever, once settled.

That said, really Liverpool fans might believe they should be shopping in a different store than this which really only leaves proven scorers at the top level. Therefore, you're looking at Bent or Defoe.

Edited by Smart Mart on Tuesday 4th December 16:12

There aren't that many strikers that are proven at the top level. Players like Austin and Rhodes are at least proven in English football and I would expect that once they settle are the sorts of players that will get goals. Liverpool need someone who gets into the box and takes up a position where he might score. They don't seem to put enough players in the right areas to feed off scraps.

They might not turn into huge successes like Rush and Aldridge (cut my football watching teeth seeing Aldo destroy defences in the white shirt of Tranmere) did but for the right money they have to be worth a try. That's the trick though isn't it - what's the right money. Given Liverpool's current financial situation the money they want to pay is unlikely to be what the Championship clubs in question are asking for.

[anonymous-user]

No way will Austin be sold for less than £10m Wickham went for £12m and has a poorer record than Austin and done very little since moving to the Premier League.

Im not saying that if we were to take a punt on him then it would be a bad idea, far from it, id welcome it.

[jammy_basturd]

I'd be happy to get Ince back. Not too fussed about Bent or Sturridge.

[Flip Martian]

fiatpower said:

Interesting view point on the proposed champions league/europa league merge:

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/12/dilution-of-c...

The CL has exacerbated the gulf between the haves and have nots. Must admit I agree that the merger might well be a better idea.