John Terry retires from International football
Discussion
Dav_s said:
In addition, isn't she the mother of Wayne Bridge's child? I may have that bit wrong though...
Oh, I get it. If you have a child by a woman, she becomes your possession, even after you've split up with her.What a load of misogynistic claptrap.
Wayne Bridge had split up with her. Who she sleeps with is none of his concern. She was single. Terry wasn't, but that's a matter for him and his wife. It's not my business, or yours, or the FA's. Terry and his wife might have an open marriage for all I know. Who cares anyway, it's their business.
I'm not one of these saddos that is endlessly fascinated by the sexual shenanigans of celebs. I really couldn't give a hoot.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Oh, I get it. If you have a child by a woman, she becomes your possession, even after you've split up with her.
What a load of misogynistic claptrap.
Ha ha! What nonsense! Or maybe you're just not very bright and completely missed my point?What a load of misogynistic claptrap.
Terry should've had a little more respect for Bridge considering they were supposed to be friends, and also considering what a significant person the lady in question was/is/will always be in Bridge's life.
Not questioning who should be shagging who, i don't really care, but what stands out from that whole affair (see what I did there?) is Terry's lack of respect for his friend by hiding what was going on from him. Can we at least agree on that bit?
Scrambled said:
About time. Good riddance. Good footballer (not great) but abhorrent as a person. He'll not be missed.
Couldn't agree more. His public statement just shows what an arrogant tossbag he is - no acceptance of any responsibility, just a "boohoo, I'm taking my ball home, sod you lot". I don't agree that anyone who plays for England should be a role model (footballers?!! Good luck finding 11 talented ones) but the arrogant assumption some have that they are more important than the clubs or countries they play for really grinds my gears.
The number of players who find an excuse to "retire from international football" before they stop getting selected due to age/lack of form is laughable.
Justin Cyder said:
You don't think being captain of England carries certain behavioural obligations with it?
Not starting an argument, but genuinely asking. A left back with a handful of caps is one thing, but the captain of the national side whom millions of kids want to dislodge in time?
Perhaps you're right - the position of England captain carries with it a certain gravitas as well as demanding leadership qualities (and football abilities). Perhaps it should only be held by players without bad publicity against them. On that basis Gerrard isn't fit either, I guess.Not starting an argument, but genuinely asking. A left back with a handful of caps is one thing, but the captain of the national side whom millions of kids want to dislodge in time?
I think it does. That the players at that level are so often unable to keep a lid on their worst excesses for what is a relatively short professional career compared with the rest of us illustrates the different world these people live in.
Take a young man who probably wasn't the brightest to start with, shower him with millions of pounds, adulation, girls, cars, houses, headlines & all the rest of it & then demand that they behave like ascetic Vicars is massively unrealistic. Still think JT is a rank t
t though, since even though he's been through the mill of losing the captaincy for his behaviour, he then somehow managed to repeat the feat. In my book, that's the very definition of a knob.
Take a young man who probably wasn't the brightest to start with, shower him with millions of pounds, adulation, girls, cars, houses, headlines & all the rest of it & then demand that they behave like ascetic Vicars is massively unrealistic. Still think JT is a rank t
t though, since even though he's been through the mill of losing the captaincy for his behaviour, he then somehow managed to repeat the feat. In my book, that's the very definition of a knob.Can we not just deport him?
journalist said:
The England captain is vigorously denying claims he racially insulted Anton Ferdinand, but it isn’t the first time he’s fallen foul of the authorities in his turbulent career to date.
By Conor Heneghan
John Terry is innocent until proven guilty of racially insulting Anton Ferdinand, but you can’t blame anyone who doesn’t believe his cries for leniency considering what he has got up to in the past.
The last 11 years of Terry’s career are littered with off-field tales of serial adultery, fraud, alcohol-fuelled histrionics and yes, p*ssing in a nightclub in full view of other patrons. Read on for a more comprehensive list of his crimes and misdemeanours.
September 2001: Insulting American tourists after 9/11
The day after the September 11 attacks, Terry and then Chelsea teammates Frank Lampard, Eidur Gudjohnsen and Jody Morris, were accused of insulting American tourists following a mammoth drinking session at Heathrow Airport. They were subsequently fined a paltry two weeks’ wages for their actions.
January 2002: Assalut and affray with Jody Morris, again
Four months after the 9/11 episode, Terry was back in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, with able accomplice Jody Morris once again by his side. The pair were out celebrating the birth of Morris’ first child at an exclusive London nightspot, before getting in a bit of argy-bargy during which a doorman was seriously injured.
Terry was cleared of affray, having an offensive weapon, wounding with intent and unlawful wounding, and is believed to have wept in court upon hearing the verdict.
February 2002: P*ssing into a pint glass in a nightclub
Only a month after being given the all-clear, you would think that Terry would have been on his best behaviour, but as we would all later learn, self-reflection and absorbing the lessons of his past aren’t exactly his best attributes.
Terry was spotted on CCTV cameras in a Romford nightclub p*ssing into a pint glass at the bar and promptly returning to the dancefloor thinking that his exploits had gone unnoticed. He was subsequently quietly escorted from the premises, but when the CCTV footage went viral, his detestable behaviour (but thankfully nothing else) was exposed for all to see.
2004: Gambling £40k a week
Footballers earn a lot of money and are entitled to do with it what they will, but when you're spending over and above the national wage every week on the horses, as Terry, Scott Parker and Wayne Bridge were alleged to have been, then there's something amiss.
Frankly, we are little disappointed that squeaky clean Scott Parker was involved, but as least he steered away from negative headlines afterwards. As for Terry and Bridge...
November 2005: Car sex, or nearly car sex
In fairness to Terry, he admitted that he cheated on his then girlfriend Toni Poole at will before they tied the knot in 2007, with reports suggesting he had affairs with up to nine other women before setting down. And he wasn’t very discreet either.
In November 2005, he is alleged to have got down and dirty with then 17-year old Jenny Barker in the back of his Bentley in a public car park, but Jenny wouldn’t let him go all the way.
"He smiled and put on sexy Luther Vandross music from a selection on a huge screen in the car,” she said.
“One thing led to another but we did not have sex. I didn't want to give in to him like I can imagine every other girl does."
October 2007: Paparazzi attack
Attacks on the paparazzi are normally the preserve of B-list American celebrities, but Terry couldn't help getting in on the act when a snapper overstepped the boundaries in 2007. Terry is one of a number of Chelsea players alleged by a photographer to have prevented him from taking photographs and subsequently damaging his scooter.
March 2008: Parking in a disabled bay
Terry copped a £60 fine after parking his Bentley in a disabled bay while treating his family to a meal in Pizza Express. Had he parked in the public car park only a few yards away, he would have only had to pay 50p an hour, but was obviously consumed by his overbearing sense of self-importance.
December 2009: The secret tour guide
Terry is believed to have accepted a folder containing £10,000 in £50 notes for organising a secret behind the scenes tour of the Chelsea training ground. The scam was uncovered by the News of the World, the now defunct red top that was once the bastion of clean cut investigative journalism.
January 2010: The Wayne Bridge affair
John Terry after his wedding to Toni Poole in 2007: “I’ve misbehaved and slept with girls behind her back and that’s not right. She knows about it all now and we’re moving on. I’m not going to cheat on her ever again.”
Everyone else of course knew better than to believe Terry, not least Wayne Bridge, once a best mate of Terry’s and now a sworn enemy after Terry cheated on his wife with the mother of Bridge’s child, Vanessa Perroncel. The lasting legacy of the whole episode was the famous non-handshake between the pair when Chelsea faced Man City shortly after the whole thing went public.
October 2011: Racist abuse of Anton Ferdinand
After Anton caught him with a couple of sneaky elbows, Terry is alleged to have called the gangly QPR defender a “f***ing black c**t”. Terry, for his part, doesn’t deny using those words, but merely says he was refuting Ferdinand’s accusation, saying: “You don’t think I called you a f***ing black c**t.”
We haven’t got much time for Anton Ferdinand. He strikes us a less talented and possibly even more annoying version of his brother, but he seems to be adamant that Terry is guilty. If he is, then he faces losing the England captaincy for a second time, surely a distinction that would be unique to Terry in the international game.
It wasn’t from the wind he got it
Terry’s Ma and Da could hardly be described as sterling influences on young John. In March 2008, Terry’s mother and mother-in-law were nabbed trying to steal £800 worth of goods from Tesco, while in 2009, his Dad was caught selling cocaine in an Essex pub (those damn undercover reporters again).
Well, at least John can say it wasn’t from the wind he got it his appetite for bad behaviour.
By Conor Heneghan
John Terry is innocent until proven guilty of racially insulting Anton Ferdinand, but you can’t blame anyone who doesn’t believe his cries for leniency considering what he has got up to in the past.
The last 11 years of Terry’s career are littered with off-field tales of serial adultery, fraud, alcohol-fuelled histrionics and yes, p*ssing in a nightclub in full view of other patrons. Read on for a more comprehensive list of his crimes and misdemeanours.
September 2001: Insulting American tourists after 9/11
The day after the September 11 attacks, Terry and then Chelsea teammates Frank Lampard, Eidur Gudjohnsen and Jody Morris, were accused of insulting American tourists following a mammoth drinking session at Heathrow Airport. They were subsequently fined a paltry two weeks’ wages for their actions.
January 2002: Assalut and affray with Jody Morris, again
Four months after the 9/11 episode, Terry was back in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, with able accomplice Jody Morris once again by his side. The pair were out celebrating the birth of Morris’ first child at an exclusive London nightspot, before getting in a bit of argy-bargy during which a doorman was seriously injured.
Terry was cleared of affray, having an offensive weapon, wounding with intent and unlawful wounding, and is believed to have wept in court upon hearing the verdict.
February 2002: P*ssing into a pint glass in a nightclub
Only a month after being given the all-clear, you would think that Terry would have been on his best behaviour, but as we would all later learn, self-reflection and absorbing the lessons of his past aren’t exactly his best attributes.
Terry was spotted on CCTV cameras in a Romford nightclub p*ssing into a pint glass at the bar and promptly returning to the dancefloor thinking that his exploits had gone unnoticed. He was subsequently quietly escorted from the premises, but when the CCTV footage went viral, his detestable behaviour (but thankfully nothing else) was exposed for all to see.
2004: Gambling £40k a week
Footballers earn a lot of money and are entitled to do with it what they will, but when you're spending over and above the national wage every week on the horses, as Terry, Scott Parker and Wayne Bridge were alleged to have been, then there's something amiss.
Frankly, we are little disappointed that squeaky clean Scott Parker was involved, but as least he steered away from negative headlines afterwards. As for Terry and Bridge...
November 2005: Car sex, or nearly car sex
In fairness to Terry, he admitted that he cheated on his then girlfriend Toni Poole at will before they tied the knot in 2007, with reports suggesting he had affairs with up to nine other women before setting down. And he wasn’t very discreet either.
In November 2005, he is alleged to have got down and dirty with then 17-year old Jenny Barker in the back of his Bentley in a public car park, but Jenny wouldn’t let him go all the way.
"He smiled and put on sexy Luther Vandross music from a selection on a huge screen in the car,” she said.
“One thing led to another but we did not have sex. I didn't want to give in to him like I can imagine every other girl does."
October 2007: Paparazzi attack
Attacks on the paparazzi are normally the preserve of B-list American celebrities, but Terry couldn't help getting in on the act when a snapper overstepped the boundaries in 2007. Terry is one of a number of Chelsea players alleged by a photographer to have prevented him from taking photographs and subsequently damaging his scooter.
March 2008: Parking in a disabled bay
Terry copped a £60 fine after parking his Bentley in a disabled bay while treating his family to a meal in Pizza Express. Had he parked in the public car park only a few yards away, he would have only had to pay 50p an hour, but was obviously consumed by his overbearing sense of self-importance.
December 2009: The secret tour guide
Terry is believed to have accepted a folder containing £10,000 in £50 notes for organising a secret behind the scenes tour of the Chelsea training ground. The scam was uncovered by the News of the World, the now defunct red top that was once the bastion of clean cut investigative journalism.
January 2010: The Wayne Bridge affair
John Terry after his wedding to Toni Poole in 2007: “I’ve misbehaved and slept with girls behind her back and that’s not right. She knows about it all now and we’re moving on. I’m not going to cheat on her ever again.”
Everyone else of course knew better than to believe Terry, not least Wayne Bridge, once a best mate of Terry’s and now a sworn enemy after Terry cheated on his wife with the mother of Bridge’s child, Vanessa Perroncel. The lasting legacy of the whole episode was the famous non-handshake between the pair when Chelsea faced Man City shortly after the whole thing went public.
October 2011: Racist abuse of Anton Ferdinand
After Anton caught him with a couple of sneaky elbows, Terry is alleged to have called the gangly QPR defender a “f***ing black c**t”. Terry, for his part, doesn’t deny using those words, but merely says he was refuting Ferdinand’s accusation, saying: “You don’t think I called you a f***ing black c**t.”
We haven’t got much time for Anton Ferdinand. He strikes us a less talented and possibly even more annoying version of his brother, but he seems to be adamant that Terry is guilty. If he is, then he faces losing the England captaincy for a second time, surely a distinction that would be unique to Terry in the international game.
It wasn’t from the wind he got it
Terry’s Ma and Da could hardly be described as sterling influences on young John. In March 2008, Terry’s mother and mother-in-law were nabbed trying to steal £800 worth of goods from Tesco, while in 2009, his Dad was caught selling cocaine in an Essex pub (those damn undercover reporters again).
Well, at least John can say it wasn’t from the wind he got it his appetite for bad behaviour.
Justin Cyder said:
I think it does. That the players at that level are so often unable to keep a lid on their worst excesses for what is a relatively short professional career compared with the rest of us illustrates the different world these people live in.
Take a young man who probably wasn't the brightest to start with, shower him with millions of pounds, adulation, girls, cars, houses, headlines & all the rest of it & then demand that they behave like ascetic Vicars is massively unrealistic. Still think JT is a rank tt though, since even though he's been through the mill of losing the captaincy for his behaviour, he then somehow managed to repeat the feat. In my book, that's the very definition of a knob.
Take a young man who probably wasn't the brightest to start with, shower him with millions of pounds, adulation, girls, cars, houses, headlines & all the rest of it & then demand that they behave like ascetic Vicars is massively unrealistic. Still think JT is a rank t
t though, since even though he's been through the mill of losing the captaincy for his behaviour, he then somehow managed to repeat the feat. In my book, that's the very definition of a knob.
+1 At last a topic Spuds and Gooners can agree onExpect renditions of 'The Terry Family' to be filtered out by the media at the weekend!
Edited by Trophybloo on Tuesday 25th September 09:57
Glad the filthy scumbag has gone! Never known any player to get away with so much in one career. Him and several of his Chelski teammates (esp Cole) are an absolute disgrace to football, no class, no respect, and they seem to think they have a god-given right to win everything. Good riddence to bad rubbish! 
Dav_s said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Oh, I get it. If you have a child by a woman, she becomes your possession, even after you've split up with her.
What a load of misogynistic claptrap.
Ha ha! What nonsense! Or maybe you're just not very bright and completely missed my point?What a load of misogynistic claptrap.
Terry should've had a little more respect for Bridge considering they were supposed to be friends, and also considering what a significant person the lady in question was/is/will always be in Bridge's life.
Not questioning who should be shagging who, i don't really care, but what stands out from that whole affair (see what I did there?) is Terry's lack of respect for his friend by hiding what was going on from him. Can we at least agree on that bit?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Utter tripe. Once I've split up with a woman, who she sleeps with is none of my business. And who my friends sleep with is none of my business. And a friend sleeping with an ex girlfriend is none of my business.
But if one of you're trusted best buddies was fking her behind yourback without telling you, would you not feel a little pissed off about it ?Black can man said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Utter tripe. Once I've split up with a woman, who she sleeps with is none of my business. And who my friends sleep with is none of my business. And a friend sleeping with an ex girlfriend is none of my business.
But if one of you're trusted best buddies was fking her behind yourback without telling you, would you not feel a little pissed off about it ?Let me say this for the final time.
JOHN TERRY IS MARRIED. HE HAD AN AFFAIR WHILST MARRIED.
You can wriggle all you like about misogyny Twigg. The awkward fact you keep sweeping under the carpet is your hero was married, cheated on his wife with his mates bird/ex bird who cares & all along you stick like poo to a sheep's bum that there's no problem with any of that, she's not an object etc etc.
You should not assume that everyone is stupid & will go along with your displacement argument. Most of the contributors here see that JT's behaviour is unacceptable in general & in particular when the job he held demanded a higher level of personal behaviour by common consensus.
The theme that comes over again & again is that he's a great full back but a of a man & I cannot understand why you won't have that when it's demonstrably true.
JOHN TERRY IS MARRIED. HE HAD AN AFFAIR WHILST MARRIED.You can wriggle all you like about misogyny Twigg. The awkward fact you keep sweeping under the carpet is your hero was married, cheated on his wife with his mates bird/ex bird who cares & all along you stick like poo to a sheep's bum that there's no problem with any of that, she's not an object etc etc.
You should not assume that everyone is stupid & will go along with your displacement argument. Most of the contributors here see that JT's behaviour is unacceptable in general & in particular when the job he held demanded a higher level of personal behaviour by common consensus.
The theme that comes over again & again is that he's a great full back but a
of a man & I cannot understand why you won't have that when it's demonstrably true.Justin Cyder said:
Let me say this for the final time.
JOHN TERRY IS MARRIED. HE HAD AN AFFAIR WHILST MARRIED.
No. Really? Well, that's a disgrace. I've never heard of that type of behaviour before. Adultery, that's shocking. Why wasn't he arrested? Surely adultery is a criminal offence, and not just a private matter between him, the woman involved and his wife. JOHN TERRY IS MARRIED. HE HAD AN AFFAIR WHILST MARRIED.No wonder they replaced him with Rio!! Now there's a guy with a reputation for fidelity.
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