John Terry retires from International football
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That line of argument is specious at best. In effect it says The F.A. replaced Terry with Ferdinand, therefore there is no requirement for an England captain to show restraint in his personal behaviour.
It's like saying my mummy told me the tooth fairy is real, therefore the tooth fairy is real. It's judging a position on it's source rather than it's merits. It's founded in this case on the notion that the F.A. is infallible. Which it isn't.
It's like saying my mummy told me the tooth fairy is real, therefore the tooth fairy is real. It's judging a position on it's source rather than it's merits. It's founded in this case on the notion that the F.A. is infallible. Which it isn't.
mickk said:
Flip Martian said:
I think the England captain role should carry extra gravitas and they should behave accordingly and take the role seriously.
Agree with this 100% but sadly it's not the case anymore.I cannot stand John Terry. Once he was removed as Captain it should have stayed that way.
As a player he's past his best and it's probably right for him to retire (2 years before a major tournament) regardless of other issues.
Having said that, I cannot believe the FA's stance on this, which seems to be that having said, "those words" he's guilty of racism no matter what the context. If that's the case, surely Ferdinand should also be charged?
"You called me a f*****g black c**t"
"I didn't call you a f*****g black c**t"
Surely that's the same?
As an aside, in the round up of Terry family highlights one was missed.
A young footballer called Dale Roberts committed suicide after his fiancee had an affair with Paul Terry (John's Brother)
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As a player he's past his best and it's probably right for him to retire (2 years before a major tournament) regardless of other issues.
Having said that, I cannot believe the FA's stance on this, which seems to be that having said, "those words" he's guilty of racism no matter what the context. If that's the case, surely Ferdinand should also be charged?
"You called me a f*****g black c**t"
"I didn't call you a f*****g black c**t"
Surely that's the same?
As an aside, in the round up of Terry family highlights one was missed.
A young footballer called Dale Roberts committed suicide after his fiancee had an affair with Paul Terry (John's Brother)
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Hackney said:
As an aside, in the round up of Terry family highlights one was missed.
A young footballer called Dale Roberts committed suicide after his fiancee had an affair with Paul Terry (John's Brother)
For all Terry's faults, I think it's a bit much to blame him for the suicide of a man who's fiancee had an affair with Terry's brother. In fact, it's probably a bit much to blame Terry for any of his family's antics. Surely Terry's own back catalogue of issues is enough for anyone to complain about.A young footballer called Dale Roberts committed suicide after his fiancee had an affair with Paul Terry (John's Brother)
The Daily Mash.....excellent. 
I wonder, can we pick an England 11 that are role models. Players that (to date) have not put a foot wrong, be they innocent or guilty of the charge against them.
Joe Hart stays in goal, a recall for Paul Scholes, Cahill at the back, and Lescott? Scotty Parker comes in. Gerrard, Lamps, Rooney, Rio all unavailable for selection.
Can we pick a half decent team?
I wonder, can we pick an England 11 that are role models. Players that (to date) have not put a foot wrong, be they innocent or guilty of the charge against them.
Joe Hart stays in goal, a recall for Paul Scholes, Cahill at the back, and Lescott? Scotty Parker comes in. Gerrard, Lamps, Rooney, Rio all unavailable for selection.
Can we pick a half decent team?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Daily Mash.....excellent.
I wonder, can we pick an England 11 that are role models. Players that (to date) have not put a foot wrong, be they innocent or guilty of the charge against them.
Joe Hart stays in goal, a recall for Paul Scholes, Cahill at the back, and Lescott? Scotty Parker comes in. Gerrard, Lamps, Rooney, Rio all unavailable for selection.
Can we pick a half decent team?
Parker's out after his gambling habits were exposed (c£40k a week a few years back)I wonder, can we pick an England 11 that are role models. Players that (to date) have not put a foot wrong, be they innocent or guilty of the charge against them.
Joe Hart stays in goal, a recall for Paul Scholes, Cahill at the back, and Lescott? Scotty Parker comes in. Gerrard, Lamps, Rooney, Rio all unavailable for selection.
Can we pick a half decent team?
LoonR1 said:
Parker's out after his gambling habits were exposed (c£40k a week a few years back)
Yes, I'd foprgotten that. So he's a gonner. Cole and Glen Johnson are out too. Defoe is out (womanising/driving offences). Andy Carrol is a no go. We're struggling here. We can't win anything with a full squad of reprobates, let alone weedling out the deadbeats. Scrambled said:
We keep focusing on Terry's adulterous behaviour whilst avoiding his violence, racism and general underhand behaviour. He is an abhorrent human being. Don't get me wrong, Ferdinand and Gerard are little better.
Found not guilty chief. And the general underhand behaviour? Parking in a disabled space? Just as well we haven't still got capital punishment.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Hackney said:
As an aside, in the round up of Terry family highlights one was missed.
A young footballer called Dale Roberts committed suicide after his fiancee had an affair with Paul Terry (John's Brother)
For all Terry's faults, I think it's a bit much to blame him for the suicide of a man who's fiancee had an affair with Terry's brother. In fact, it's probably a bit much to blame Terry for any of his family's antics. Surely Terry's own back catalogue of issues is enough for anyone to complain about.A young footballer called Dale Roberts committed suicide after his fiancee had an affair with Paul Terry (John's Brother)
(I do not think for a minute that John Terry is the innocent one in all this)
Edited by Hackney on Wednesday 26th September 20:15
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