The Official Arsenal - 12 x FA Cup Winners - Thread [Vol 3]

The Official Arsenal - 12 x FA Cup Winners - Thread [Vol 3]

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Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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NoVetec said:
Cheib said:
He is 100% right about paying down the stadium debt. Given the shareholders are basically two incredibly wealthy/cash rich billionaires it makes total sense for the shareholder to do it.. By doing so they'd be giving the club more money to invest in the team/squad/facilities/infrastructure. When you look at the inflation in football it's an absolutely no brainer....cost of world class players has roughly doubled in the last three years...vs having cash sat in the bank earning 0.00001%.
IIRC the debt is tied up in bonds until 2030; it'd cost a fair bit more to pay it off early. Can't see any good businessman doing that.
At current market prices it would cost 5% more....which is a yield of 4.5% and a very reasonable premium. They're getting 0% on all that cash they have in the bank account. Servicing the debt outstanding debt of £163mil is currently costing them £15mil a year in interest and principal payments. Or to put it another way a Callum Chambers.

To put it another way (and somewhat crudely) the owner's gamble is that Wenger can invest that money in players which will go up in value quicker than 4.5% a year.


Chad_Hugo

649 posts

178 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Interesting interview, it proves that for better or for worse Usmanov was never actually interested in taking over the club and Arsenal spending it's way to trophies with the help of his billions- he views it as one (of many) investments he makes, motivated purely by return.

He's the richest man in Russia, and Britain- financially on another level to Kronke and any other shareholder. If he had ambitions of running the club he would have just made an offer to good to turn down...









melvster

6,841 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Seems to be a lot of stories about us closing in on Reus.

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

162 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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melvster said:
Seems to be a lot of stories about us closing in on Reus.
He's a player Arsne has gushed about for years. If he's available then I'd put good money down on him being inquired about. Rosicky is also his idol so you never know ....


Although common sense would indicate he's not what we need, but then when has common sense been used in Arsenals transfer policy. Looks like we'll be lining up with 10 attacking midfielders in front of Schezney hehe

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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MrMagoo said:
Although common sense would indicate he's not what we need, but then when has common sense been used in Arsenals transfer policy. Looks like we'll be lining up with 10 attacking midfielders in front of Schezney hehe
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Perhaps two or even three more players will be joining before the window closes?

DeanR32

1,840 posts

183 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Tough place to visit, turkey!


Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Besiktas - long way to travel that.

I see we've agreed a deal with Barca for Vermaelen, too good to turn down really in the circumstances. Rather them than Man United.

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Alfahorn said:
Besiktas - long way to travel that.

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Only 3 hrs 30 flight time??

RacingPete

8,876 posts

204 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Well Besiktas have put in some preparation of playing English sides ahead of this game...

http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/thebulls/confer...ikta_in_a_friendly_near_Leeds/

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

187 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Verm to Barca for £15M confirmed by BBC!! Good biz
Apparently Salford Contemptibles wouldn't include a player we wanted in part ex

Edited by Trophybloo on Friday 8th August 11:42

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Trophybloo said:
Verm to Barca for £15M confirmed by BBC!! Good biz
Apparently Salford Contemptibles wouldn't include a player we wanted in part ex

Edited by Trophybloo on Friday 8th August 11:42
Rumours on the web are you wanted Smalling in a swap/part ex

Wenger knows we are trying to increase numbers in defence, I think he chose a player we wouldn't let go on purpose as he didn't want us to have Vermaelen


Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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anonymous said:
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I like to think that's true.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Alfahorn said:
I like to think that's true.
It would appear that not only has Arsene discovered his wallet he may have found his backbone hidden in the same pocket smile

Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Trophybloo said:
Verm to Barca for £15M confirmed by BBC!! Good biz

Edited by Trophybloo on Friday 8th August 11:42
That it is! Shame it did't work out for him after being immense in the first couple seasons. I think a change will do him good.

So Mertesacker or Koscielny for the captaincy?

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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anonymous said:
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Quite

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Allyc85 said:
Trophybloo said:
Verm to Barca for £15M confirmed by BBC!! Good biz

Edited by Trophybloo on Friday 8th August 11:42
That it is! Shame it did't work out for him after being immense in the first couple seasons. I think a change will do him good.

So Mertesacker or Koscielny for the captaincy?
Merte for me all day long.

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Wenger was after Smalling when he went to Man U so makes total sense. Great to see us holding firm and not letting him go to Man U....times realty are changing!

Rumour is Arteta is getting the captaincy, should be BFG. What I love about BFG more than anything is that his brother sounds equally bonkers....he goes to a lot of the away games on the coaches with all the regular fans. Loves the intensity and camaraderie apparently.

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Cheib said:
Wenger was after Smalling when he went to Man U so makes total sense. Great to see us holding firm and not letting him go to Man U....times realty are changing!

Rumour is Arteta is getting the captaincy, should be BFG. What I love about BFG more than anything is that his brother sounds equally bonkers....he goes to a lot of the away games on the coaches with all the regular fans. Loves the intensity and camaraderie apparently.
I really have had the feeling for a long time that Merte is very happy at Arsenal, it seems he's very popular in the dressing room too. He's got huge experience and he's a winner the perfect candidate for the job.

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Cheib said:
Rumour is Arteta is getting the captaincy,
Expect him to be sold at Xmas then hehe

Wonder what Wengers got up his sleeve, cant believe were going into the season with just Koscielny and Chambers.

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

162 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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BFG for me too. If we are getting a DM then it can't go to Arteta or we'll have the same situation we had with Verm. Our captain sitting on the bench.

Maybe a bit young at the moment but Schezney is certainly a leader.
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