The Official Arsenal - 12 x FA Cup Winners - Thread [Vol 3]

[Adam B]

London424 said:

Flip it around. If you could pay 25mil for a player and 250k a week and you won the league would you be happy or pissed off?

just what i was thinking - all the top clubs would happily pay £40M for a title, season in season out - bargain in fact

[Glassman]

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[Cheib]

Cannot fking believe Citeh have paid £50mil for Stirling....only themselves to blame being desperately short of "homegrown" players.

[jammy_basturd]

Stupid thing is that over the past few years they've had English players with as much potential as Sterling had at the same age, but didn't play them and lo and behold they end up at Sunderland or Villa!

[Cie]

Adam B said:

London424 said:

Flip it around. If you could pay 25mil for a player and 250k a week and you won the league would you be happy or pissed off?

just what i was thinking - all the top clubs would happily pay £40M for a title, season in season out - bargain in fact

Well none of the Arsenal fans answered the question which says a lot.

Alfahorn said:

I couldn't give a fk about him.

.......

I hope he rots in hell frankly!

[Glassman]

What a shame Begovic has retired so early.

[Allyc85]

? Raheem Sterling = £49M
Arsenal Invincibles Team = £46.85M
? 2001 - Zidane to Real Madrid for £46m.
2015 - Sterling to Manchester City for £49m.
? Raheem Sterling - £49 million
Mesut Ozil - £42.5 million
One is a World Cup winner, the other is a 20 years old lad.
? Arsenal signed Alexis Sanchez and Petr Cech for a lesser amount than what Manchester City are paying for Sterling.
? Our entire British core of Walcott, Wilshere, Oxlade Chamberlain, Gibbs, Calum Chambers & Jenkinson cost us £43m. Cheaper than Sterling.
? Wilshere + Cazorla + Coquelin + Walcott + Oxlade Chamberlain = £49M
Raheem Sterling = £49M
? £49m for Sterling.
Arsenal:
Ramsey: 5m
Wilshere, Gibbs: 0
Oxlade Chamberlain + Walcott: 27m
Jenkinson: 1m
Chambers: 16m
Total: 49m
? Raheem Sterling cost more than Alexis Sanchez, Ozil, Aguero, Hazard, Diego Costa, Fabregas and David Silva.
? Sterling will be earning more than:
Alexis Sanchez
Neymar
Suarez
Aguero
Ozil
Silva
Muller
Robben
Lewandowski
Reus

Unbelievable!

[Cie]

I don't think anybody thinks he's worth that amount but City need English players and Liverpool to be fair to them have absolutely fleeced the berties.

[Glassman]

Jenkinson has signed a new fiver-year contract according to Arseblog.

[Alfahorn]

Cie said:

Adam B said:

London424 said:

Flip it around. If you could pay 25mil for a player and 250k a week and you won the league would you be happy or pissed off?

just what i was thinking - all the top clubs would happily pay £40M for a title, season in season out - bargain in fact

Well none of the Arsenal fans answered the question which says a lot.

1 title, 3 seasons, one decent season 15 million in wages (conservative estimate) £24m transfer fee, failed to qualify for Europe in one of those seasons. £18-20m prize money for winning the league.

If it's being implied Van Persie represented a sound investment then that is debatable I'd say.

To put this in to perspective; 13 years ago United signed Rooney for £30m, now that was VFM.

[aeropilot]

Cie said:

I don't think anybody thinks he's worth that amount but City need English players and Liverpool to be fair to them have absolutely fleeced the berties.

Yup, Liverpool must be laughing their heads off selling him for probably more than double what's he worth

[jammy_basturd]

Alfahorn said:

To put this in to perspective; 13 years ago United signed Rooney for £30m, now that was VFM.

Rooney joined in 2004, so 11 years ago. However, back then £30m for an 18 year old was a phenomenal amount of money. Sterling is today's Rooney, both have had just 1 very good season in 2-3 senior seasons. And £30m back then is more than £49m if you take into account Prem player inflation. Maybe in 11 years we'll all be saying that Sterling has represented very good value for City over a decade.

[Cheib]

Nice rant Allc85...though you missed Welbeck out from our British Core! Oh and I think Gnabry (£100k) , Bellerin (free as part of Cesc Transfer) and Zelalem all count as homegrown. You'd almost think Wenger was planning for this....

I have no fking lue who really pulls the strings at Man Citeh but they are a joke to have let themselves get in this situations....ageing squad and no Brits.

[scrubchub]

Cheib said:

Nice rant Allc85...though you missed Welbeck out from our British Core! Oh and I think Gnabry (£100k) , Bellerin (free as part of Cesc Transfer) and Zelalem all count as homegrown. You'd almost think Wenger was planning for this....

I have no fking lue who really pulls the strings at Man Citeh but they are a joke to have let themselves get in this situations....ageing squad and no Brits.

You're right, all of those count as homegrown (though looks as though Gnabry might be off on loan). So does Szczesny and Damian Martinez (if Ospina goes and he remains as 3rd choice keeper of course). Arsenal have loads of home grown players.

Also, after looking into it a bit, it's clear why Man City are after homegrown players - before Sterling signed, they has 3 out of the required 8 needed! Hart being the only one they have developed themselves. The other two being Clichy and that other Arsenal legend - Richard Wright!

EDIT - just did some reading, and apparently, from next season then Coquelin, Martinez and Szczesny won't fit the criteria anymore as they are changing the rules. Still should be ok.

Edited by scrubchub on Tuesday 14th July 11:50

[scrubchub]

Allyc85 said:

? Sterling will be earning more than:
Alexis Sanchez
Neymar
Suarez
Aguero
Ozil
Silva
Muller
Robben
Lewandowski
Reus

Unbelievable!

Well we all know that young English players are expensive, so this is the part that really amazed me. Staggering. Liverpool and Sterling/ his agent, have bent Man City over with this one an absolute treat (not that they'll care)!

[Alfahorn]

jammy_basturd said:

Alfahorn said:

To put this in to perspective; 13 years ago United signed Rooney for £30m, now that was VFM.

Rooney joined in 2004, so 11 years ago. However, back then £30m for an 18 year old was a phenomenal amount of money. Sterling is today's Rooney, both have had just 1 very good season in 2-3 senior seasons. And £30m back then is more than £49m if you take into account Prem player inflation. Maybe in 11 years we'll all be saying that Sterling has represented very good value for City over a decade.

£30m transfer fees are not common place for teenagers even today. The point remains that compared to a striker purchased at the age of 29 with a horrendous injury background who with the exception of his first season at the club has been largely injured again Rooney is value and I'm not convinced Van Persie was value.

We certainly didn't see the best of him over his 8 years (or whatever it was) , we only really got one injury free consistent season out of him at the end of his Arsenal career. Despite his success in his first season at United I think Van Persie's career will be remembered as one of unfulfilled potential. However, I accept that's not entirely his fault.

[Alfahorn]

scrubchub said:

that other Arsenal legend - Richard Wright!

Blimey, he must be pushing 40 now. I didn't realise he was even at City.

[Chad_Hugo]

RVP cost Man Utd around £12 million per year in wages for each of his 3 seasons, and £24 million transfer fee.

So that's £60 million for one league title.

Minus what they get back in transfer now that they are selling him (which will not be a lot).

Possibly best bit of business Wenger has done recently- he was vilified at the time of course.

They key is that Man Utd may have won the league with RVP, if we had kept him for the last year of his contract WE would NOT have, that much is 100% clear. So it was great business as weather we had him or not we did not have the squad and mentality to win the league so we would have just thrown away £24 million, had an unhappy and angry player on our hands for one year, and have nothing to show for it at the end of the season.

[scrubchub]

Alfahorn said:

Blimey, he must be pushing 40 now. I didn't realise he was even at City.

He's 37, so could still do a job somewhere I'd imagine, though hard to see him in any premiership team! Apparently he is a goalkeeper/ coach. A bit desperate that they are using him as a homegrown player really.

[Cupramax]

Aaaaand where off. Let the injuries start. got to feel sorry for the lad.

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