The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 7]

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Baines and Jagielka both good for sat and Distin 50-50 according to Martinez

[Sargeant Orange]

I wouldn't want to be stuck in the trenches with some of you lot, talk about glass half empty I think a few of you might have left at half time in Istanbul.

If we come up short then so be it. We played ourselves into this position with 11 superb wins, over-achieving with the squad we have and getting favourable results elsewhere. I think some must have thought we'd won it already given their deflation after the loss.

Let's make City work for it with 6 points and a shedload of goals & see what happens.

[Black can man]

Sargeant Orange said:

I wouldn't want to be stuck in the trenches with some of you lot, talk about glass half empty I think a few of you might have left at half time in Istanbul.

You're not wrong Sarg !

There was quite a few that seemed to be not willing to go over the top,


Think there are still some running backwards .

[tvrsp6]

Hmmm...nice thread.

IMHO Everton/City has draw all over it...so it certainly ain't over yet...the one question I'd have is what has the Chelsea defeat done to you (psychologically) at this crucial time?

[Cbull]

Suarez to Madrid for £70m? Hopefully just rumors but if he does go this season I'd say worth than that. In the mean I wouldn't mind getting shut of Aspas, not sure what the manager seen in him. Would rather have brought Toure on up front with the instructions of just stand in box for a ricochet and see what happens instead he brings on desperate to play Aspas who is to blame (imo) for the second goal after a shoddy corner kick.

Would like to see Shaw come to the club more than Lallana but both would be great.

I still believe we will win the league .

[mickk]

tvrsp6 said:

Hmmm...nice thread.

IMHO Everton/City has draw all over it...so it certainly ain't over yet...the one question I'd have is what has the Chelsea defeat done to you (psychologically) at this crucial time?

Has no one warned you about this thread?

[JNW1]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

City still have to win all 3 of their games too

Yep and I think there's a good chance they won't; points on the board are often better than games in hand and hence I still think (and hope) you'll do it!

[CIE560]

mickk said:

tvrsp6 said:

Hmmm...nice thread.

IMHO Everton/City has draw all over it...so it certainly ain't over yet...the one question I'd have is what has the Chelsea defeat done to you (psychologically) at this crucial time?

Has no one warned you about this thread?

Oh he knows all about it.

[Glenred]

tvrsp6 said:

Hmmm...nice thread.

IMHO Everton/City has draw all over it...so it certainly ain't over yet...the one question I'd have is what has the Chelsea defeat done to you (psychologically) at this crucial time?

hi Im, good to see you made it back.

[RedTrident]

tvrsp6 said:

Hmmm...nice thread.

IMHO Everton/City has draw all over it...so it certainly ain't over yet...the one question I'd have is what has the Chelsea defeat done to you (psychologically) at this crucial time?

All depends on what City do on Saturday night. If they drop points then we'll go and and smash Palace and Newcastle after getting one last unexpected chance.

[London424]

m3sye said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmxV-7QvJ8&ap...

Carra and Neville on Monday night football discussing the loss to Chelsea...

And that's why Neville is the best in the business right now. Great insight. Cara has developed nicely through the season as well.

[curlie467]

Glenred said:

tvrsp6 said:

Hmmm...nice thread.

IMHO Everton/City has draw all over it...so it certainly ain't over yet...the one question I'd have is what has the Chelsea defeat done to you (psychologically) at this crucial time?

hi Im, good to see you made it back.

[DSLiverpool]

m3sye said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmxV-7QvJ8&ap...

Carra and Neville on Monday night football discussing the loss to Chelsea...

Love this insight, I just wish Bren had the cojones to mix it up, I would rather we lost trying tactics than sticking to what do well against other teams even if it wasn't working.

[revrange]

DSLiverpool said:

Love this insight, I just wish Bren had the cojones to mix it up, I would rather we lost trying tactics than sticking to what do well against other teams even if it wasn't working.

I would say the point was we didn't do what we been doing to other teams, the inner chimp won, and the players lost their cool, instead of playing the neat,quick passing game into areas where SAS can exploit we took long shots and crossed the ball to much.

we kind of revert to a rubbish plan B, instead of playing our proper plan A. I think Henderson is key to our plan A as he makes runs which pull defenders around, and also allow Countinho to be more attacking, and get in positions where he can make the killer pass.

[jammy_basturd]

I would have to say that Brendan has to be one of the better managers to see when a gameplan isn't working and then mixing it up, either with different players, different formation, or both. The problem was this time we didn't have any options, other than Sturridge.

[type-r]

revrange said:

DSLiverpool said:

Love this insight, I just wish Bren had the cojones to mix it up, I would rather we lost trying tactics than sticking to what do well against other teams even if it wasn't working.

I would say the point was we didn't do what we been doing to other teams, the inner chimp won, and the players lost their cool, instead of playing the neat,quick passing game into areas where SAS can exploit we took long shots and crossed the ball to much.

we kind of revert to a rubbish plan B, instead of playing our proper plan A. I think Henderson is key to our plan A as he makes runs which pull defenders around, and also allow Coutinho to be more attacking, and get in positions where he can make the killer pass.

I don't think there was a Plan B. Liverpool were obviously frustrated by Plan A which has worked amazingly well the previous 11 games, that after about 60 minutes, they started getting nervous and tried shooting when they should have played a pass or putting in blind crosses. That added to the frustration and just could not get back to playing Plan A.

For me Rodgers really should have adjusted his tactics for this game. Yes, it easy to say in hindsight and yes if we had got a draw, he probably would have been lambasted anyway for playing in a negative style and not the usual attacking intent. It is all well and good to "play football the right way" but Rodgers should have mirrored the Chelsea tactics and sat back and tried to hit them on the counter. Chelsea had to chase the game, not us. All we can do now is chalk it up to Rodgers inexperience in really big games (refer to the Emirates for similar inexperience shown).

[jammy_basturd]

For all those saying Rodgers should have changed things up, or had a plan B, what would you have had him do?

In the past people on here have said we should play more direct if they passing isn't working. Seemed we tried both ways on Sunday...

[WolfyJones]

jammy_basturd said:

I would have to say that Brendan has to be one of the better managers to see when a gameplan isn't working and then mixing it up, either with different players, different formation, or both. The problem was this time we didn't have any options, other than Sturridge.

I wouldn't have let Carrol go, when plan A doesn't go to plan bring on the big lad for the last 20 mins, he made a big impact against Chelsea in the FA cup a few years ago when he came on.

Hope Liverpool or City win it, JM has no class and Chelsea are boring to watch.

[Flip Martian]

I'm just concentrating on remembering what our expectations were at the start of the season. If someone had said we would finish top 3, I'd have been happy with that. Winning the title would be an incredible achievement. Finishing second, or even third would be a great season and no failure.

[GALLARDOGUY]

jammy_basturd said:

For all those saying Rodgers should have changed things up, or had a plan B, what would you have had him do?

In the past people on here have said we should play more direct if they passing isn't working. Seemed we tried both ways on Sunday...

We don't have the squad depth for these mythical plan B's and C's.

Our first 11 is strong, our bench is not and lacks versatility.