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Let me see if I’ve got this right.
Going into the last game of the season, if Derby lose to Sheffield Weds, they’re down as Weds leapfrog them. If Rotherham win, Derby have to win to stay up as Rotherham’s point last night makes a draw for Derby useless due to goal difference.
Derby have to beat Weds to stay in the division.
Proper last day drama coming up!
Going into the last game of the season, if Derby lose to Sheffield Weds, they’re down as Weds leapfrog them. If Rotherham win, Derby have to win to stay up as Rotherham’s point last night makes a draw for Derby useless due to goal difference.
Derby have to beat Weds to stay in the division.
Proper last day drama coming up!
Yeh - Wendies and Derby have a similar goal difference (1 goal difference in the Wendies favour).
Rotherham are away at Cardiff who have nothing to play for but have a much better goal difference than the other two.
For arguments sake, lets not bother about Wycombe who need to score 16 or something mad!
So Wendies and Derby could draw and Rotherham win which would see Rotherham stay up. Proper, proper nail biting end to the season. Will definitely be keeping tabs on how things get on and rooting for Rotherham!
Rotherham are away at Cardiff who have nothing to play for but have a much better goal difference than the other two.
For arguments sake, lets not bother about Wycombe who need to score 16 or something mad!
So Wendies and Derby could draw and Rotherham win which would see Rotherham stay up. Proper, proper nail biting end to the season. Will definitely be keeping tabs on how things get on and rooting for Rotherham!
vladcjelli said:
Let me see if I’ve got this right.
Going into the last game of the season, if Derby lose to Sheffield Weds, they’re down as Weds leapfrog them. If Rotherham win, Derby have to win to stay up as Rotherham’s point last night makes a draw for Derby useless due to goal difference.
Derby have to beat Weds to stay in the division.
Proper last day drama coming up!
Not sure you're right that Derby have to win. They could draw, and Rotherham lose to Cardiff - then Derby stay up.Going into the last game of the season, if Derby lose to Sheffield Weds, they’re down as Weds leapfrog them. If Rotherham win, Derby have to win to stay up as Rotherham’s point last night makes a draw for Derby useless due to goal difference.
Derby have to beat Weds to stay in the division.
Proper last day drama coming up!
Well Derby survived on the pitch at the weekend but it seems an appeal by the EFL - which claimed they'd breached the Financial Fair Play rules - has been upheld. Sheffield Wednesday were deducted 6 points for a similar offence (a penalty which in effect relegated them this season) so if the EFL adopt a consistent approach - and applied any points deduction to the 20/21 season - I guess Derby could still go down? I imagine fans of the Rams will be a tad nervous until the punishment's announced....
ETA: Just seen on Sky that if there's a points deduction it's likely to be applied to next season.
ETA: Just seen on Sky that if there's a points deduction it's likely to be applied to next season.
Edited by JNW1 on Tuesday 11th May 13:51
Without trying to deflect or detract from the serious misconduct at derby, why are Boro and Wycombe coming after the club and not the league?
Derby did wrong, but the leagues lackadaisical approach to enforcing its own rules appears to be the issue here, Mel taking advantage, of course, but league misadministration is surely the main issue.
Derby did wrong, but the leagues lackadaisical approach to enforcing its own rules appears to be the issue here, Mel taking advantage, of course, but league misadministration is surely the main issue.
vladcjelli said:
Without trying to deflect or detract from the serious misconduct at derby, why are Boro and Wycombe coming after the club and not the league?
Derby did wrong, but the leagues lackadaisical approach to enforcing its own rules appears to be the issue here, Mel taking advantage, of course, but league misadministration is surely the main issue.
This 100%. Step back from the rights and wrongs on what Derby did. The footballing world needs to wake up to the precedent that Middlesbrough and Wycombe are potentially setting. Games and seasons being decided in court and not on the pitch. Both clubs are being opportunistic given the position that Derby are in. There are examples of them being ‘cheated’ by other clubs, but those clubs are in a position to defend themselves. This opportunism could destroy football for good. Lose a game to a disputed goal ‘I’m suing’, league tables decided by balance sheets not results etc.Derby did wrong, but the leagues lackadaisical approach to enforcing its own rules appears to be the issue here, Mel taking advantage, of course, but league misadministration is surely the main issue.
As you say, Middlesbrough and Wycombe’s beef should be with the EFL, indeed the former started action against them and then withdrew when the EFL effectively said they would support, or not stand in the way of, action against Derby. Logic says the EFL should intervene to save football integrity, however, if they do it will result in potential action against them - a clear conflict of interest.
There are many other clubs who easily could have been in the situation Derby are in, basically any club that has overstretched themselves and either gone into administration or needed to be bailed out. There will be plenty others in the future too, especially if the Premier League doesn’t reform parachute payments and levels the playing field between the bottom of their league and the top of the Championship. This is a much bigger issue than just Derby County being in a bit of trouble.
Hopefully, football and the government will come to their senses and the end result will be an independent regulator to replace the FA and EFL, but that could be too late for Derby and it is already too late for Bury etc.
I see Gary Neville is of the same opinion, that Boro and Wycombe should drop their claim against Derby and the 'footballing' family should come together in situations like these. We're beyond this now though, too much at stake for clubs and they will all look after themselves now by whatever means. Rock and a hard place football now.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/s...
A wail link but a good explanation of what the two claims relate to. Both claims look very speculative!!
A wail link but a good explanation of what the two claims relate to. Both claims look very speculative!!
Edited by nc107 on Saturday 22 January 11:43
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/s...
A wail link but a good explanation of what the two claims relate to. Both claims look very speculative!!
A wail link but a good explanation of what the two claims relate to. Both claims look very speculative!!
Edited by nc107 on Saturday 22 January 11:43
I agree the claims by Boro and Wycombe should be dropped. Just seem to be piling on while the club is in a mess. The league allowed this to happen, Derby just took advantage.
Was reading about Mel Morris and the mess he got the club into. I know he was chasing a dream, but effectively could have put the club out of business and no impact to him financially
Was reading about Mel Morris and the mess he got the club into. I know he was chasing a dream, but effectively could have put the club out of business and no impact to him financially
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