How Would You Feel About A Gay Player In The Dressing Room?
Discussion
anonymous said:
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This isn't really about your gay mate who you have a relationship with Keyser. It's about the guy standing across the changing room from you to whom it becomes apparent (whilst in the course of becomming naked) that your mate is gay and he's not happy about it.
Hugo a Gogo said:
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
just out of interest; how would you feel about a gay bloke sharing a flat with you, or even sitting next to you on the bus?
Me?There's a gay guy sitting not 6 feet away from me every day. We're great mates.
Why?
im said:
This isn't really about your gay mate who you have a relationship with Keyser.
Interestingim said:
It's about the guy standing across the changing room from you to whom it becomes apparent (whilst in the course of becomming naked) that your mate is gay and he's not happy about it.
I'm out then, I just don't get the point being madeEither you are uncomfortable getting naked in front of other men or you aren't, I don't see how them being Gay, ASexual or into Beastiality comes into it
anonymous said:
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Keyser, its simple, whats...no...I can't be arsed to restate the feckin' question again, I did it just a couple of pages back...if you don't have an answer to the question then you're right to bow out.
The mere fact that you said you "don't get the point being made" kinda sums up that you're not really following the whole gist of this.
I'm not making a point.
Edited by im on Friday 17th January 13:12
im said:
This isn't really about your gay mate who you have a relationship with Keyser.
It's about the guy standing across the changing room from you to whom it becomes apparent (whilst in the course of becomming naked) that your mate is gay and he's not happy about it.
How's he going to know? Plenty of straight men have camp mannerisms or like show tunes. Honestly, how does your hypothetical sensitive type get through the day. Does he wear a burka just in case some horrid homosexual checks out his crotch?It's about the guy standing across the changing room from you to whom it becomes apparent (whilst in the course of becomming naked) that your mate is gay and he's not happy about it.
Bill said:
im said:
This isn't really about your gay mate who you have a relationship with Keyser.
It's about the guy standing across the changing room from you to whom it becomes apparent (whilst in the course of becomming naked) that your mate is gay and he's not happy about it.
How's he going to know? Plenty of straight men have camp mannerisms or like show tunes. Honestly, how does your hypothetical sensitive type get through the day. Does he wear a burka just in case some horrid homosexual checks out his crotch?It's about the guy standing across the changing room from you to whom it becomes apparent (whilst in the course of becomming naked) that your mate is gay and he's not happy about it.
Look, I will restate it again for the hard of thinking...
You're the judge in a case brought before you by a bloke who has objected to getting changed in the same changing room as someone who is openly gay on the grounds that what is good for a woman should apply to him as well. He should be free of any form of PERCEIVED sexual pressure in that pursuit.
What do you decide and why? What is your logical argument either for or against the plaintiff.
Don't make it about me...address the feckin' question
I actually think there's logic in the OP's question. Men and women have separate changing rooms, I'm assuming to avoid the usual sexual tensions/people getting their jollies off etc. Nobody can help it, it's just the way you are. You see a woman getting changed in front of you, you can't deny you'd love to have a look. Whether you actually do or not depends on you.
So if you have a gay man and a straight man, do you technically have the same situation? Leave aside whether this particular gay man finds the other man attractive or not (as that could be applied to men and women) - it's the same situation.
So should the outcome be the same? Not sure myself. I'm not gay, so I don't know how they're wired, but it could always be possible that they're more like women in terms of physical desire. Ask a man what he wants in a woman, and usually it's tits, arse, nice face, legs...whatever. Ask a women what she wants in a man, and it's honesty, sense of humour, feeling of security...stuff like that. Looks come further down the scale, probably because they're more advanced than men? Who knows. Maybe the genes that cause gay men to be gay result in similar behavioural patterns to women? At the end of the day, the most fundamental trate of the human race (to procreate) has been bypassed, so who knows what else is different? Gay men might genuinely not be interested in looking.
As it's apparent, I really don't know. I can see the logic clear as day. Just not sure what the answer is, and though it seems the same thing as men and women, is it actually the same?
Doesn't matter, I only ever get changed in the front of the missus!
So if you have a gay man and a straight man, do you technically have the same situation? Leave aside whether this particular gay man finds the other man attractive or not (as that could be applied to men and women) - it's the same situation.
So should the outcome be the same? Not sure myself. I'm not gay, so I don't know how they're wired, but it could always be possible that they're more like women in terms of physical desire. Ask a man what he wants in a woman, and usually it's tits, arse, nice face, legs...whatever. Ask a women what she wants in a man, and it's honesty, sense of humour, feeling of security...stuff like that. Looks come further down the scale, probably because they're more advanced than men? Who knows. Maybe the genes that cause gay men to be gay result in similar behavioural patterns to women? At the end of the day, the most fundamental trate of the human race (to procreate) has been bypassed, so who knows what else is different? Gay men might genuinely not be interested in looking.
As it's apparent, I really don't know. I can see the logic clear as day. Just not sure what the answer is, and though it seems the same thing as men and women, is it actually the same?
Doesn't matter, I only ever get changed in the front of the missus!
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
just out of interest; how would you feel about a gay bloke sharing a flat with you, or even sitting next to you on the bus?
Me?There's a gay guy sitting not 6 feet away from me every day. We're great mates.
Why?
you'd feel terrible if your great mate saw your bare bum?
It's your thread, it's not our fault you're ignoring the answers given.
If your man is unhappy undressing in the same room as someone gay then he should go elsewhere. A cubicle or home, or simply wait until the gay man is gone.
Women are mostly unhappy undressing in front of men so they go off to a different room. And as they're all unhappy they get their own room. And yes, men are banned from it to stop the BSRs of this world walking in with their badly hidden erections.
Simple, no?
If your man is unhappy undressing in the same room as someone gay then he should go elsewhere. A cubicle or home, or simply wait until the gay man is gone.
Women are mostly unhappy undressing in front of men so they go off to a different room. And as they're all unhappy they get their own room. And yes, men are banned from it to stop the BSRs of this world walking in with their badly hidden erections.
Simple, no?
Hugo a Gogo said:
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
just out of interest; how would you feel about a gay bloke sharing a flat with you, or even sitting next to you on the bus?
Me?There's a gay guy sitting not 6 feet away from me every day. We're great mates.
Why?
you'd feel terrible if your great mate saw your bare bum?
Whats it got to do with my mate as well???
HRL said:
Not sure why but I've never liked being naked in front of anyone other than my wife, girlfriend, etc. Whether the other men are gay or not makes no difference.
I think this may be why I cannot relate in any way to the 'hypothetical' issue at handA lot of my friends and family are from a forces background, in the forces if a colleague or friend has shrapnel up their anus you cannot be all "oooooh another mans bum how weird and gross" their lives may depend on you not being like that, as such they are all very comfortable at being naked around each other and other men
Most would go so far as to say its the blokes who are not that are hiding some unresolved personal issues
(I am genuinely not aiming this at you just a generalism)
Many things and photos that have occurred with my mates and photos of them on tour would look to an outsider as if they were gay and in some cases having a weird orgy, in fact its just they are all very comfortable with their sexuality and acknowledge that a penis is just a penis, an arse is the same
For instance if a friend is the first to fall asleep drunk at a party he can fully expect to wake up with pictures of him with arses in his face, naked blokes sat on top of him etc
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
im said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
just out of interest; how would you feel about a gay bloke sharing a flat with you, or even sitting next to you on the bus?
Me?There's a gay guy sitting not 6 feet away from me every day. We're great mates.
Why?
you'd feel terrible if your great mate saw your bare bum?
Whats it got to do with my mate as well???
you answered, so I asked about your great gay mate who sits near you
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