The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 4]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 4]

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m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Black can man said:
I don't really read the papers, i'll wait until i see it on the BBC website .
haha Lies... or did you accidently come across the Express today laugh

CIE560

18,783 posts

194 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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m3sye said:
haha Lies... or did you accidently come
He does that often. Old age I guess.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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I'm car from convinced by Giggs as manager material. He was a poor captain on the field and I think hell struggle off it too. A no 2 role is his best option IMO.

Black can man

31,841 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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m3sye said:
Black can man said:
I don't really read the papers, i'll wait until i see it on the BBC website .
haha Lies... or did you accidently come across the Express today laugh
BBC gossip page sye ,

Would you like the link ?

Black can man

31,841 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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CIE560 said:
m3sye said:
haha Lies... or did you accidently come
He does that often. Old age I guess.
oi

Bit of a Unit

6,723 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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bstb3 said:
So you're going to be managing the biggest club in the world, and immediate success (in the form at the very least of qualifying for the CL next season), is required.

1) 3 of our stalwart back 4 are leaving / likely to leave in the summer
2) The midfield is largely poor, and has Ashley Young on the wing.
3) Three of your strikers are miffed, the other is overpaid and inconsistent.
4) You have to compete with at least 4 other teams who are currently stronger.
5) You have circa £100m to spend, little prospect of player sales raising much more.
6) Despite Moyes you are following a legend.

on the plus side, (struggling a bit here)

1) Our keeper is good.
2) We have a good young prospect in Januzaj.
3) The history of the club might still help attract some players.
4) Mata and Kagawa mean at least there is one role in the team that is covered.

Anyone else think the Glazers are going to have to dig deep here?
Interesting points.

1. Those 3 have also been liabilities for most of the season. Nothing wrong with Evans, Jones and Smalling given consistent playing time. Evans was first choice last season.
2. Centre midfield needs a couple of big names and has done for several years. Nothing new there but the funds are in place.
3. A good man manager will sort the egos. And most managers would love to have Rooney and RVP to rotate but they'd have to have the balls to do so.
4. They're only stronger due to Moyes. We still expected top four no one knew how wrong he'd get it. Moyes took the decision to bring his team in. This has been the major reason for his failure.
5. More than that to spend plus we should recoup 300,000 by off loading Fellaini wink
6. I don't buy this Fergie's shadow bks.

Plenty of positives and painful as it is probably going to be, do not underestimate the motivating factor of seeing the premiership trophy travel down the M62.

The next few months will be very interesting and then it's the World Cup. Gotta love football!

CooperD

2,870 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Surprised to see him go especially at this time of the season. Can't see Giggs as manager material. I think they will try to get an established name, possibly Jurgen Klopp from Dortmund would be who they may aim for. I can see Moyes getting a managers post fairly soon assuming he wants one, possibly at WBA or Villa if they decide to ditch their manager's in the Summer.

Edited by CooperD on Tuesday 22 April 12:49

Bit of a Unit

6,723 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Black can man said:
CIE560 said:
m3sye said:
haha Lies... or did you accidently come
He does that often. Old age I guess.
oi
It was the revelation that BCM can read that had me shockedsmile

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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bstb3 said:
Anyone else think the Glazers are going to have to dig deep here?
Oh yes. The Glazers had it good, very good under SAF. IIRC nett. spend over his time as Manager under them was £50M...Had he got what he should have got for Ronaldo (£150M - Gill bottled it) he would have been in profit. Incredible for a top flight team.

They need to spend big, but we should still put some faith in some of our younger players, look at Sterling under Rodgers as an example, you keep (blind?) faith with your older players and this is what happens.

Black can man

31,841 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Bit of a Unit said:
Black can man said:
CIE560 said:
m3sye said:
haha Lies... or did you accidently come
He does that often. Old age I guess.
oi
It was the revelation that BCM can read that had me shockedsmile
biggrin

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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57Ford said:
Pochettino's been a little unhappy at Southampton. Could be in with a good shout if he wanted.
As a Saints fan, I hope that does not happen, but I think Man Utd will be looking for a big name and not taking a punt...

McClure

2,173 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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CooperD said:
I can see Moyes getting a mangers post fairly soon assumimg he wants one, possibly at WBA or Villa if they decide to ditch their manger's in the Summer.
Moyes and Villa are a match made in heaven (well, a rather boring and mediocre version of heaven).

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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NailedOn said:
I cannot name a single thing that Moyes got right.
Everyone associated with his appointment is accountable for this fiasco. I hope they learn from their mistake.
I agree with this, but there's always more to most situations than meets the eye. We had agreed terms with a very high profile manager, who ditched us as the 11th hour to manage another club that came knocking. So for all intents and purposes, Moyes was a firesale appointment, which ultimately failed.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Alpinestars said:
NailedOn said:
I cannot name a single thing that Moyes got right.
Everyone associated with his appointment is accountable for this fiasco. I hope they learn from their mistake.
I agree with this, but there's always more to most situations than meets the eye. We had agreed terms with a very high profile manager, who ditched us as the 11th hour to manage another club that came knocking. So for all intents and purposes, Moyes was a firesale appointment, which ultimately failed.
Guardiola?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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anniesdad said:
Alpinestars said:
NailedOn said:
I cannot name a single thing that Moyes got right.
Everyone associated with his appointment is accountable for this fiasco. I hope they learn from their mistake.
I agree with this, but there's always more to most situations than meets the eye. We had agreed terms with a very high profile manager, who ditched us as the 11th hour to manage another club that came knocking. So for all intents and purposes, Moyes was a firesale appointment, which ultimately failed.
Guardiola?
Sorry if it sounds arsey (it's not meant to be), but having said what I did, I wouldn't want to disclose who it was. And will be interesting to see if things go full circle!

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Alpinestars said:
Sorry if it sounds arsey (it's not meant to be), but having said what I did, I wouldn't want to disclose who it was. And will be interesting to see if things go full circle!
I heard it was a done deal for 2012/13 but SAF didn't want to go out on a downer so that's what cost us that persons services.

Blib

44,197 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Alpinestars said:
anniesdad said:
Alpinestars said:
NailedOn said:
I cannot name a single thing that Moyes got right.
Everyone associated with his appointment is accountable for this fiasco. I hope they learn from their mistake.
I agree with this, but there's always more to most situations than meets the eye. We had agreed terms with a very high profile manager, who ditched us as the 11th hour to manage another club that came knocking. So for all intents and purposes, Moyes was a firesale appointment, which ultimately failed.
Guardiola?
Sorry if it sounds arsey (it's not meant to be), but having said what I did, I wouldn't want to disclose who it was. And will be interesting to see if things go full circle!
I thought that SAF had decided up to four seasons ago that Moyes was to be his successor?

Kaj91

4,705 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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So Giggs is taking over first team affairs.
In fairness he does know a thing or two about them.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Well my guess is it was. A meeting with SAF in NY, a promise that he (SAF) was retiring at the end of the year. A year's sabbatical whilst he learned English...then Bayern come knocking.

Bit of a Unit

6,723 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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LoonR1 said:
I heard it was a done deal for 2012/13 but SAF didn't want to go out on a downer so that's what cost us that persons services.
I had been told exactly this as well.
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