Could a woman play for a professional team?

Could a woman play for a professional team?

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Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Somethings aren't meant to be.....

jimbobsimmonds

1,824 posts

166 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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This reminds me of the whole women in the Paras thing, a colonel of some description said something along the lines of 'are you saying Jess Ennis couldn't do it'. Maube 1 per cent of women have the genetic ability to become a para, jess would be one of them, but I would bet at least half of all men with enough training could meet the grade. Its just too expensive to allow women to go for selection when the vast majority will fail!

anyhow. I digress...

obob

4,193 posts

195 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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NISMOgtr said:
Women will never be able to match or even come close to men in sports - cricket is where it is most comical.
Darts, Snooker, diving, errrrrr lots more.

jimbobsimmonds

1,824 posts

166 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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This reminds me of the whole women in the Paras thing, a colonel of some description said something along the lines of 'are you saying Jess Ennis couldn't do it'. Maube 1 per cent of women have the genetic ability to become a para, jess would be one of them, but I would bet at least half of all men with enough training could meet the grade. Its just too expensive to allow women to go for selection when the vast majority will fail!

anyhow. I digress...

Bradgate

2,825 posts

148 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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No chance.

In terms of skill, there is no reason why the women can't match the men, but the gulf in speed and strength is just too big.

There are plenty of other sports in which women could compete directly with men (they do so already in equestrian sport). Cricket, for example. A female batter could definitely play first class cricket. Bowling is a different matter, of course.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Bradgate said:
Cricket, for example. A female batter could definitely play first class cricket. Bowling is a different matter, of course.
Could she hack 90+ mph bouncers and yorkers?

NISMOgtr

727 posts

192 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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obob said:
Darts, Snooker, diving, errrrrr lots more.
Those are not what i call sports (yeah i know they are sports). They are skilled activities that do not require physical strength of any kind.

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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The standard of international women's football on the whole, is abysmal. The England team would struggle against my sunday league team, in all honesty, and that is with most of them having gone out on the piss the night before. The goalkeepers her beaten by shots that I would have been emabarrassed about if I conceded them when I was 11.

Bradgate

2,825 posts

148 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Amirhussain said:
Could she hack 90+ mph bouncers and yorkers?
There is no physiological reason whatsoever why a woman's eyesight and reflexes should be any slower, or faster than a man's.

As for the physical confrontation and intimidation of facing serious fast bowling, no-one much likes it as we have seen so vividly in the Ashes down under this winter.

obob

4,193 posts

195 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Amirhussain said:
Bradgate said:
Cricket, for example. A female batter could definitely play first class cricket. Bowling is a different matter, of course.
Could she hack 90+ mph bouncers and yorkers?
Probably, but none of the men wanted to bowl 90+ mph at her according to something I read.

Hackney

6,850 posts

209 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Dan_1981 said:
U17 women beat U17 men.

Although from reading the report it appears they needed 27 players to do so.....

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/6/52/89539...
Meh, it says "squad" not team, or played.
And at 17 I think they'd be physically a lot closer so the playing field is levelled.
Add to that it's Egypt where the overall standard is lower and it's levelled even further.

It's interesting but not conclusive.
I'd like to see Spain Women play England Men, that could be....humbling.

BoRED S2upid

19,713 posts

241 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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A woman playing premier league football? She would forever be rolling on the floor clutching her leg after every foul or slight knock ...

Bradgate

2,825 posts

148 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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BoRED S2upid said:
A woman playing premier league football? She would forever be rolling on the floor clutching her leg after every foul or slight knock ...
Unlike many of the blokes, of course.... wink

Terminator X

15,102 posts

205 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Hugo a Gogo said:
seriously, there are no women in the world with stronger legs than Messi or Neymar?

never mind some dude in Doncaster
The top players have genetics and training on their side. Women are simply not built in a way to enable them to compete unless as stated earlier they are freakishly like a man ie influenced by the male hormone. Re the tennis example though it seems even then they are at a disadvantage vs an almost Top 200 man.

TX.

Thankyou4calling

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10,607 posts

174 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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RobDickinson said:
I know its tennis but I think women's tennis is perhaps more competitive than women's football..

"During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38). Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily.""

From what I have seen of top end womans football they have some ball skills but are hugely off the pace on the rest of the game.
Serena was 16 at the time. Now, I'm not saying she could hold her own against a top seeded man but I think when at her peak she would've given men ranked at 200 a good game, perhaps even won.

Dan_1981

17,398 posts

200 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Serena May have only been 16 but Venus was 18 and was already ranked in the top ten, had reached several finals and would be winning opens within a year.

hilly10

7,145 posts

229 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Juanco20 said:
I don't think you appreciate just how poor the standard of women's football is if you compare it directly with the men's game

If England ladies played a side from the Conference North, they would get absolutely pummeled. Or another example, if you took a league 2 player and stuck him in the England side at the next women's world cup, he'd probably single handedly win them the tournament
Have you seen the women in Moss Side

Thankyou4calling

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174 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Dan_1981 said:
Serena May have only been 16 but Venus was 18 and was already ranked in the top ten, had reached several finals and would be winning opens within a year.
In your, and others opinion. Would Serena Willams, at her peak have got through the first round against an unseeded lowly ranked (200 + ) man at Wimbleon?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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There's plenty of other tennis examples from where I got that quote.

jimbobsimmonds

1,824 posts

166 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Bradgate said:
There is no physiological reason whatsoever why a woman's eyesight and reflexes should be any slower, or faster than a man's.

As for the physical confrontation and intimidation of facing serious fast bowling, no-one much likes it as we have seen so vividly in the Ashes down under this winter.
Agreed. However would she have the strength to move a bat heavy enough to actually do anything but block the ball?