The Official Tottenham Hotspur Thread [Vol 7]

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maximm

1,313 posts

218 months

Legend83

9,978 posts

222 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Guys, just popping in quickly to say once again - THANK YOU, THANK YOU for giving us Gylfi!

smile

P.S. notice Davies wasn't even in the match-day squad, hence why I said "giving" and not "selling".

wink

TEKNOPUG

18,948 posts

205 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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maximm said:
We are in trouble I fear. We seem to have a combo of average players who are playing for a manger who doesn't want them. And the pressure of that situation and results is forcing the manager into selection errors.

Firstly you cannot play Fazio over Vertonghen. The gulf in quality between the two of them is massive. Fazio is too slow and cumbersome.

Capoue is not doing his job in midfield. No where near enough tackles or interceptions. Players are free to run straight through our midfield. I would prefer Stambouli to him.

Kane is not the answer. He is a decent squad player but starting him up front alone is ridiculous. Soldado should be playing.

The problem with Eriksen is summed up here: http://thepremierleagueowl.com/tottenhams-christia...
It's the total lack of leadership & personality on the pitch that worries me the most.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Ade has come out with a few home truths today...probably going to ps off the locals.


ascayman

12,749 posts

216 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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London424 said:
Ade has come out with a few home truths today...probably going to ps off the locals.
Yes I saw that, its the fans fault they cant win at home.

Nothing to do with his dismal return of 2 goals in 10 games (both of which were scored at home)

He can fk off as far as i'm concerned, he's a major part of the problem not the solution.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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ascayman said:
London424 said:
Ade has come out with a few home truths today...probably going to ps off the locals.
Yes I saw that, its the fans fault they cant win at home.

Nothing to do with his dismal return of 2 goals in 10 games (both of which were scored at home)

He can fk off as far as i'm concerned, he's a major part of the problem not the solution.
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.

ascayman

12,749 posts

216 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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London424 said:
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.
Bizarrely and despite the performance the fans did get behind the team yesterday particularly during the second half, perhaps Ade missed it, maybe he was still looking for the correct boots to put on? you know the ones that delayed him coming on by several minutes.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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ascayman said:
London424 said:
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.
Bizarrely and despite the performance the fans did get behind the team yesterday particularly during the second half, perhaps Ade missed it, maybe he was still looking for the correct boots to put on? you know the ones that delayed him coming on by several minutes.
I'm not defending Ade...if it was up to me he'd have been out of the club years ago, and as you say not having the correct boots on is pathetic. But what he says I think has some merit.

Spurs fans are awful for saying one thing (we need stability) and then moaning about the new manager when less than 10 games have been played in the new regime and are booing players for mistakes/misplaced passes after 20 mins.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

232 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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London424 said:
ascayman said:
London424 said:
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.
Bizarrely and despite the performance the fans did get behind the team yesterday particularly during the second half, perhaps Ade missed it, maybe he was still looking for the correct boots to put on? you know the ones that delayed him coming on by several minutes.
I'm not defending Ade...if it was up to me he'd have been out of the club years ago, and as you say not having the correct boots on is pathetic. But what he says I think has some merit.

Spurs fans are awful for saying one thing (we need stability) and then moaning about the new manager when less than 10 games have been played in the new regime and are booing players for mistakes/misplaced passes after 20 mins.
I agree with you 100%, but that doesn't translate to me being able to muster the enthusiasm at a game to cheers and shout for 90 minutes when we are so st. It's just not realistic. Nothing has changed at Spurs in that forever the players need to do something to gee the crowd up. It works both ways. Historically we have always had one or two exciting players, or played a system that even when we are losing, or just terrible, we can be exciting and the crowd can be picked up.
Now, though, we are just so fking boring. Boring tactics, crap boring players, complete lack of passion and complete lack of flair. It is literally impossible to enthusiastically cheer them for more than about 15 seconds.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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blindswelledrat said:
London424 said:
ascayman said:
London424 said:
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.
Bizarrely and despite the performance the fans did get behind the team yesterday particularly during the second half, perhaps Ade missed it, maybe he was still looking for the correct boots to put on? you know the ones that delayed him coming on by several minutes.
I'm not defending Ade...if it was up to me he'd have been out of the club years ago, and as you say not having the correct boots on is pathetic. But what he says I think has some merit.

Spurs fans are awful for saying one thing (we need stability) and then moaning about the new manager when less than 10 games have been played in the new regime and are booing players for mistakes/misplaced passes after 20 mins.
I agree with you 100%, but that doesn't translate to me being able to muster the enthusiasm at a game to cheers and shout for 90 minutes when we are so st. It's just not realistic. Nothing has changed at Spurs in that forever the players need to do something to gee the crowd up. It works both ways. Historically we have always had one or two exciting players, or played a system that even when we are losing, or just terrible, we can be exciting and the crowd can be picked up.
Now, though, we are just so fking boring. Boring tactics, crap boring players, complete lack of passion and complete lack of flair. It is literally impossible to enthusiastically cheer them for more than about 15 seconds.
Same for me...I've got no enthusiasm to watch them at the moment either.

The most frustrating thing for me is how clueless some of the players look when doing something they've been doing since they were kids.

I also think that MP is having to deal with a squad of players he doesn't want, but can't disrupt some of the characters until he can shift them on.

The advantage he had at Southampton was he had a lot of youth that bought into the way he wanted to do things and wanted to learn. At Spurs I think there are a few too many big time charlies that think they know better and so you end up with a whole lot of rubbish on display.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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London424 said:
blindswelledrat said:
London424 said:
ascayman said:
London424 said:
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.
Bizarrely and despite the performance the fans did get behind the team yesterday particularly during the second half, perhaps Ade missed it, maybe he was still looking for the correct boots to put on? you know the ones that delayed him coming on by several minutes.
I'm not defending Ade...if it was up to me he'd have been out of the club years ago, and as you say not having the correct boots on is pathetic. But what he says I think has some merit.

Spurs fans are awful for saying one thing (we need stability) and then moaning about the new manager when less than 10 games have been played in the new regime and are booing players for mistakes/misplaced passes after 20 mins.
I agree with you 100%, but that doesn't translate to me being able to muster the enthusiasm at a game to cheers and shout for 90 minutes when we are so st. It's just not realistic. Nothing has changed at Spurs in that forever the players need to do something to gee the crowd up. It works both ways. Historically we have always had one or two exciting players, or played a system that even when we are losing, or just terrible, we can be exciting and the crowd can be picked up.
Now, though, we are just so fking boring. Boring tactics, crap boring players, complete lack of passion and complete lack of flair. It is literally impossible to enthusiastically cheer them for more than about 15 seconds.
Same for me...I've got no enthusiasm to watch them at the moment either.

The most frustrating thing for me is how clueless some of the players look when doing something they've been doing since they were kids.
yes

Even if you are st, as long as you put in some graft fans will appreciate that.

It drives me crazy when I see the typical bread and butter stuff done badly:
- can't pass
- can't cross
- corners don't beat the first defender
- shocking free kick delivery

What do these clowns do in training?

mickk

28,852 posts

242 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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London424 said:
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.
This 20 minute booing thing, I didn't hear it but a lot of booing was aimed at the Stoke players about that time for constant time wasting.

When Ade was warming up on the touchline he was applauded and he applauded the supporters.



London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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mickk said:
London424 said:
He's not saying it about him...it's about the fans "supporting" the team. Booing someone after less than 20 minutes isn't very helpful now is it?

I'm not for a minute suggesting that the team don't deserve criticism, but maybe reserve it until the end of the game...until then, get behind the team.
This 20 minute booing thing, I didn't hear it but a lot of booing was aimed at the Stoke players about that time for constant time wasting.

When Ade was warming up on the touchline he was applauded and he applauded the supporters.

Hmmm, you could be right, but thought it was aimed at Kaboul.

As I said, it wasn't about fans booing him, but the general tone and the tension that can bring into the players.

RobbieKB

7,715 posts

183 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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mickk said:
This 20 minute booing thing, I didn't hear it but a lot of booing was aimed at the Stoke players about that time for constant time wasting.

When Ade was warming up on the touchline he was applauded and he applauded the supporters.

I said this too. In fact, when we went 2-0 down and were playing atrociously the fans were loudly singing 'come on you Spurs'.

mickk

28,852 posts

242 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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The final whistle was great, drowning out the boos by playing the music at full blast, they must have been prepared for that.


hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Blib

44,037 posts

197 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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hornetrider said:
Levy does seem to be in a more precarious position than ever before. However, Uncle Joe has stuck with him through thin and thinner. I'm not sure what, if anything, would persuade our reclusive billionaire owner to part with him.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

232 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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I honestly don't understand the criticism of Levy.
His job is to manage the club and for it to be financially stable. He does that brilliantly.
That we are not a top 4 team is not his fault, it is the fact we simply do not have the financial clout to be one.
The only way that will change is with the new stadium, which he is doing.

Blib

44,037 posts

197 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Levy hires and fires managers. He's hired and fired too many, IMO.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Doesn't he also pretty much buys who he wants then forces them on the manager?
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