The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 8]

[Sargeant Orange]

The elephant in the room is still SG playing regularly in a position where a good engine & fast pressing is needed. The defence is being exposed time & again by one pass or a quick 1-2 which is unacceptable. We're too vulnerable through the middle.

If he's insisting on SG starting regularly then Hendo or Can needs to start next to him

[London424]

Pommygranite said:

BlackST said:

Pommygranite said:

I love the way everyone's got the100% right opinion as if they're all experts and professional players/coaches could learn from their wisdom

Easy to sit on a forum spouting advice - very different on the pitch.

I don't understand your point regarding questioning managers and them being experts. In every sport you will get fans questioning managers and players. It's what is done.
Us mere mortals pick up on every mistake that they do

It was more at this:

London424 said:

Having played that position and being just as one footed, his error wasn't really not using his right foot (though that would have been better) the main error was waiting for the ball rather than attacking it.

Ah, well in that case you'll have to point out my error as I thought it was pretty obvious that standing and waiting probably wasn't the best thing to do in that situation.

Seeing as you are coached from kids to move towards the ball and not wait for it to come to you...but then again what do I know.

[gaz1234]

Sargeant Orange said:

The elephant in the room is still SG playing regularly in a position where a good engine & fast pressing is needed. The defence is being exposed time & again by one pass or a quick 1-2 which is unacceptable. We're too vulnerable through the middle.

If he's insisting on SG starting regularly then Hendo or Can needs to start next to him

This

[Pommygranite]

London424 said:

Seeing as you are coached from kids to move towards the ball and not wait for it to come to you...but then again what do I know.

Actually you're not. It depends on the other players movement.

[revrange]

Sargeant Orange said:

The elephant in the room is still SG playing regularly in a position where a good engine & fast pressing is needed. The defence is being exposed time & again by one pass or a quick 1-2 which is unacceptable. We're too vulnerable through the middle.

If he's insisting on SG starting regularly then Hendo or Can needs to start next to him

I thought Can looked strong and able to look after himself in that midfield role. Gerrard positional discipline isn't good enough for that role, and that is what is costing us. Either play Can next to him or maybe its time to start leaving him out of the side.

I agree individual errors cost us dear, but this was true last year, and same agin now, becomes a point when its a system.

I am not panicking but its the fact that

a) We brought in 9 new players who are going to take time to work out best 11, and then learn to play well together.
b) We lost our best player
c) trying to fix a leaky defence will take time.
d) Glen Johnson is the biggest ball watcher know to man, my god!

I have faith BR will get it right in the end but i can see a tough few months while things settle down.

[anonymous-user]

Regarding Moreno - I agree that the issue was he was on his heels and was expecting Lovren to sort it out.

I think he did well but I thought he was carrying a bit of timber and could do with being a bit fitter.
(When I say timber - It's all relative but I thought both he and Can don't look as lean as the others.)

[m3sye]

desolate said:

Regarding Moreno - I agree that the issue was he was on his heels and was expecting Lovren to sort it out.

I think he did well but I thought he was carrying a bit of timber and could do with being a bit fitter.
(When I say timber - It's all relative but I thought both he and Can don't look as lean as the others.)

Emre Can is simply not fit, picked up a knock, I could tell watching him - looked 60/70% max to me.

Edited by m3sye on Tuesday 26th August 14:58

[anonymous-user]

m3sye said:

Fat fker!!

Was definitely wrong about that then!

[m3sye]

desolate said:

Fat fker!!

Was definitely wrong about that then!

Think he just had a wide frame - shoulders and arms are bigger than a lot of 'skinny' footballers.

[Yazar]

revrange said:

I am not panicking but its the fact that

a) We brought in 9 new players who are going to take time to work out best 11, and then learn to play well together.
...
I have faith BR will get it right in the end but i can see a tough few months while things settle down.

The question is will it be a few months or a few seasons?

Liverpool have bought works in progress Chelsea and Manchester City have signed finished products

[curlie467]

Yazar said:

revrange said:

I am not panicking but its the fact that

a) We brought in 9 new players who are going to take time to work out best 11, and then learn to play well together.
...
I have faith BR will get it right in the end but i can see a tough few months while things settle down.

The question is will it be a few months or a few seasons?

Liverpool have bought works in progress Chelsea and Manchester City have signed finished products

It will work when it works and no time sooner. I am not worried.

[anonymous-user]

I can foresee some difficulties BUT there is no doubt that the squad is considerably stronger than it was a couple of years ago.

Losing Suarez is blow as he has a "genius" factor that not many have.

It's a bit depressing to see the strength that City and Chelsea have. But I think we are now up there with Arsenal, Tottenham and UTD. Everton don't quite have the depth but are playing as a unit.

It's early days.

The price reported for Di Maria puts some of our purchases in perspective. If you want immediate top class you need to pay 50 million plus now!

[London424]

Pommygranite said:

London424 said:

Seeing as you are coached from kids to move towards the ball and not wait for it to come to you...but then again what do I know.

Actually you're not. It depends on the other players movement.

Right...and what do you think you get coached when standing on the 6 yard box? Go forward or hang around and wait?

[paulrockliffe]

London424 said:

Pommygranite said:

London424 said:

Seeing as you are coached from kids to move towards the ball and not wait for it to come to you...but then again what do I know.

Actually you're not. It depends on the other players movement.

Right...and what do you think you get coached when standing on the 6 yard box? Go forward or hang around and wait?

He could have smacked the fker out of the park with his left peg for a corner, or waited and cleared it with his right. The problem with waiting was that Jovetic didn't and Moreno couldn't see him. Safety first was clearly the best policy, as evidenced by the result.

[type-r]

Moreno will learn. That is the thing about potential - they will make a few more mistakes than the rest. But he looks like has the desire and the attitude to learn. Liverpool aren't going to win the title this year - but once these young players gel, the defence matures, we will have a side capable of challenging over the next couple of years.

[epom]

Yep he made a mistake in his first game in a new team, against probably the strongest team in the competition. We would not have won the game anyhow as up to Lambert coming on and the last few mins when we went gung ho we had little or no threat.

[BlackST]

Just seen Lovren at the fair with his Mrs and his kids
He got on the bumper cars as I just got off.

[m3sye]

BlackST said:

Just seen Lovren at the fair with his Mrs and his kids
He got on the bumper cars as I just got off.

You stalking him ? you was at his hotel the other week haha

[BlackST]

m3sye said:

You stalking him ? you was at his hotel the other week haha

I know
Hopefully didn't notice me as I think he would have felt strange seeing someone twice in two random locations.

[GALLARDOGUY]

Did he not recognise you?

These fking footballers today! So out of touch with the common man...