The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 8]
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The thing about Utd so far hasn't just been the lack of talent because you'd really expect Rooney, RvP and Mata to have conjured up a few goals by now. But it's the slow style of play they've had under both Moyes and van Gaal. Until they change that they won't be top four, even with Di Maria and Falcao!
I wouldn't say City are just a group of talents - you don't win leagues by not being a team. However Chelski do look a bit stronger at the moment. Be interesting to see what happens to Chelsea if Costa or Cesc get injured.
Arsenal, I was going to say that they look the weakest out of the top teams, that was until they signed Wellbeck! The poor mans, more expensive Sturridge! I fully expect them to go on a run of form whereby their silky passing will overrun any team, but they're going to struggle over the course of a whole season. Again.
I wouldn't say City are just a group of talents - you don't win leagues by not being a team. However Chelski do look a bit stronger at the moment. Be interesting to see what happens to Chelsea if Costa or Cesc get injured.
Arsenal, I was going to say that they look the weakest out of the top teams, that was until they signed Wellbeck! The poor mans, more expensive Sturridge! I fully expect them to go on a run of form whereby their silky passing will overrun any team, but they're going to struggle over the course of a whole season. Again.
I think it is going to be interesting to see how Rodgers handles Borini going forward. Hasn't featured in any of squads for games so far this season - is he just going to leave him in the reseerves, occassionally brining him in for Captial One Cup games? Really can't see him having two strikers on the bench for PL or even CL games. Someone will need to be injured for him to get a look in. I suspect he will swallow his pride, take a pay cut and leave in January.
Utd have the added bonus of the extra 20,000 odd seats at OT which must give them a huge amount of extra revenue per season- sure they make more money from corporate sales as well - we are catching up, but will take time.
Borini worries me, I don't understand why he would want to stay and hardly even get on the bench, rather than playing every week at Sunderland or QPR
Borini worries me, I don't understand why he would want to stay and hardly even get on the bench, rather than playing every week at Sunderland or QPR
I'd freeze Borini out completely. Make him train on his own and everything. Send him to play in reserve games etc.
He values a wage more than he values his career. I'd make him suffer. And when he thought it was as bad as it got, I'd make him suffer some more.
And no I'm not joking. I've always maintained he was crap, I'm just more annoyed that he's also a mercenary waste of talent that would rather clean boots than play football.
He values a wage more than he values his career. I'd make him suffer. And when he thought it was as bad as it got, I'd make him suffer some more.
And no I'm not joking. I've always maintained he was crap, I'm just more annoyed that he's also a mercenary waste of talent that would rather clean boots than play football.
RedTrident said:
I'd freeze Borini out completely. Make him train on his own and everything. Send him to play in reserve games etc.
He values a wage more than he values his career. I'd make him suffer. And when he thought it was as bad as it got, I'd make him suffer some more.
And no I'm not joking. I've always maintained he was crap, I'm just more annoyed that he's also a mercenary waste of talent that would rather clean boots than play football.
The mercenary attitude never hurt Winston Bogarde.He values a wage more than he values his career. I'd make him suffer. And when he thought it was as bad as it got, I'd make him suffer some more.
And no I'm not joking. I've always maintained he was crap, I'm just more annoyed that he's also a mercenary waste of talent that would rather clean boots than play football.
SydneyBridge said:
Utd have the added bonus of the extra 20,000 odd seats at OT which must give them a huge amount of extra revenue per season- sure they make more money from corporate sales as well - we are catching up, but will take time.
Borini worries me, I don't understand why he would want to stay and hardly even get on the bench, rather than playing every week at Sunderland or QPR
Not just that there fan base is greater so the commercial deal are bigger.. Borini worries me, I don't understand why he would want to stay and hardly even get on the bench, rather than playing every week at Sunderland or QPR
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Falcao cost £6M loan plus £43.5M option to buy vs £16M Wellbeck and loan out Hernandez ?!?!? How are those in any way equal.
I bet Falcao's wages will be more than Welly/Chichi combined too
Edited by Adam B on Tuesday 2nd September 11:31
m3sye said:
Shouldn't believe everything you read chaps http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/ma...
All that angst for nothing
Adam B said:
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Falcao cost £6M loan plus £43.5M option to buy vs £16M Wellbeck and loan out Hernandez ?!?!? How are those in any way equal.
I bet Falcao's wahes will be more than Welly/Chichi combined too
SydneyBridge said:
Utd have the added bonus of the extra 20,000 odd seats at OT which must give them a huge amount of extra revenue per season- sure they make more money from corporate sales as well - we are catching up, but will take time.
indeed - we need to continue the Anfield developmentjammy_basturd said:
Is it wages? Anyone know what he's on with us compared to what Sunderland and QPR were offering?
Maybe he just likes the direction we're going in and wants to be part of that?
He's a young chap, I expect that he doesn't want a pay cut, but I also expect that he thinks he's as good as Lambert after what he did for Sunderland last year. If he doesn't make it with us, he's unlikely to move from a QPR or a Sunderland to another big Club, so I can understand why he'd rather make the best of what he's got.Maybe he just likes the direction we're going in and wants to be part of that?
I think I'd rather have him as our fourth striker than no one.
Quite, if I was him I'd be thinking that I'd want to try and force myself back into the team, or if I have to go to a non-CL team where I'd be the main striker then I'd probably want more than I was on currently. But at the same time I can fully see the point about playing regularly too!
hornetrider said:
London424 said:
He wanted 90k a week at QPR and they quite rightly told him to do one.
I've read that bandied about - what's the source?'Arry did his interview and said that the clubs had agreed everything but they were "miles apart" on wages...and we know 'Arry isn't shy about throwing around a pound note, so it wouldn't surprise me if true.
London424 said:
I heard it on the radio...no clue who the guy was (was one of the agent people that call in)...so could be complete rubbish.
'Arry did his interview and said that the clubs had agreed everything but they were "miles apart" on wages...and we know 'Arry isn't shy about throwing around a pound note, so it wouldn't surprise me if true.
Yeah. I heard Harry say they couldn't get to where the player wanted. I'd be stunned if it was 90k though, bonkers. If true, probably asked for that so the deal wouldn't go through - after all, who wants to go and live in stinky London eh? 'Arry did his interview and said that the clubs had agreed everything but they were "miles apart" on wages...and we know 'Arry isn't shy about throwing around a pound note, so it wouldn't surprise me if true.
hornetrider said:
London424 said:
I heard it on the radio...no clue who the guy was (was one of the agent people that call in)...so could be complete rubbish.
'Arry did his interview and said that the clubs had agreed everything but they were "miles apart" on wages...and we know 'Arry isn't shy about throwing around a pound note, so it wouldn't surprise me if true.
Yeah. I heard Harry say they couldn't get to where the player wanted. I'd be stunned if it was 90k though, bonkers. If true, probably asked for that so the deal wouldn't go through - after all, who wants to go and live in stinky London eh? 'Arry did his interview and said that the clubs had agreed everything but they were "miles apart" on wages...and we know 'Arry isn't shy about throwing around a pound note, so it wouldn't surprise me if true.
I can't figure out what his plan was. He turned down Sunderland (where the clubs had agreed) to talk to QPR and then priced himself out of a move...very strange.
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