The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 2]

[Fats25]

Hart

Clyne - Cahill - Smalling - Rose

Dier

Rooney - Henderson - Lallana

Alli

Kane

This would be my team. I would have Vardy from the bench either to replace Kane, or to go up front alongside him, and sacrifice Alli, Lallana or Rooney.

Clyne pips Walker for me - as they are both poor defensively, but Clyne slighly less so. Also when the full back mistake is made - it is only 50/50 it is a Spud doing it!

However I think Woy's team will have Wiltshire, and Sterling in it - and possibly Milner too.

[DuncanM]

Fats25 said:

Hart

Clyne - Cahill - Smalling - Rose

Dier

Rooney - Henderson - Lallana

Alli

Kane

This would be my team. I would have Vardy from the bench either to replace Kane, or to go up front alongside him, and sacrifice Alli, Lallana or Rooney.

Clyne pips Walker for me - as they are both poor defensively, but Clyne slighly less so. Also when the full back mistake is made - it is only 50/50 it is a Spud doing it!

However I think Woy's team will have Wiltshire, and Sterling in it - and possibly Milner too.

Sterling just has no end product, shouldn't start.

Rooney should get to choose his position imo, preferably not out on the wing.

If we can afford one luxury player then it should be Rooney in a free role behind the forwards.

[MiniMan64]

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[DuncanM]

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[DuncanM]

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[selym]

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[lionelf]

If you're going to play both Kane and Vardy together and to their strengths that demands a 4-4-2 I'm afraid.

[Evil Jack]

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[GloverMart]

If I had been Roy, I'd have started using 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2 eighteen months ago and drilled it into the players. Fair point, I get that not many teams play that way anymore but that can be used as an advantage, not necessarily a disadvantage.

Trouble is, either of those formations require three centre backs in good form and I'm not sure we have one. But if everyone WAS up to speed, you could go (with a 3-4-1-2)

Hart

Cahill - Smalling - Stones

Walker - Dier - Rooney - Rose

Alli

Vardy - Kane

or in a 3-5-2...

Hart

Cahill - Smalling - Stones

Walker - Dier - Alli - Rooney - Rose

Vardy - Kane

[Challo]

GloverMart said:

If I had been Roy, I'd have started using 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2 eighteen months ago and drilled it into the players. Fair point, I get that not many teams play that way anymore but that can be used as an advantage, not necessarily a disadvantage.

Trouble is, either of those formations require three centre backs in good form and I'm not sure we have one. But if everyone WAS up to speed, you could go (with a 3-4-1-2)

Hart

Cahill - Smalling - Stones

Walker - Dier - Rooney - Rose

Alli

Vardy - Kane

or in a 3-5-2...

Hart

Cahill - Smalling - Stones

Walker - Dier - Alli - Rooney - Rose

Vardy - Kane

Issue is no-one really plays with 3 centre backs in the league. And given that Roy only gets the players a handful of weeks a year to suddenly change the formation of the cb's is a risk.

[SilverSpur]

Word is Sturridge has a booboo on his leg.

Id drop him and take Rashford if he's fit. Sturridge is a better player but too prone to breakdown.

[m3sye]

DuncanM said:

I'm a Liverpool supporter but I'd still have Walker in front of Clyne, purely due to end product going forward; he was impressive yesterday imo.

Clyne struggles to beat his man and put in consistent crosses, good defending though.

The Spurs connection shouldn't be underplayed either.

I see Clyne putting crosses in all the time ?? he put 2 superb one's in the final only the other day...and going into this competition we need defenders who can defend and Clyne is a lot better at that than Walker..... Defence is our weakest position as it is, lets not make it weaker by picking a fullback who can cross better

[Legend83]

m3sye said:

I see Clyne putting crosses in all the time ?? he put 2 superb one's in the final only the other day...and going into this competition we need defenders who can defend and Clyne is a lot better at that than Walker..... Defence is our weakest position as it is, lets not make it weaker by picking a fullback who can cross better

Like when he was jogging alongside Koke who smashed it in from 20 yards?

I was screaming at him to slide in and try and block the shot.

Agree with SP here - England best form of defence has to be attack. Our defence is a shambles so we might as well try and out-score the opposition.

[m3sye]

Guys you are all aware its Roy Hodgson in charge not Kevin Keegan ? he is never going to go all out attack, especially in the Euros
Week in week out I read the Spurs thread and walker is getting pulled apart most games about his ability to defend and his consistent mistake making - having watched every game this year of Liverpools very rarely is Clyne done defensively -
We have not got the ball players in the middle of the park to control the better teams at the Euros so we need to be as solid as we can.

Football of course is about opinions though - but having seen Roy 1st hand in charge of my club there is no way he is gonna totally take the reins off and go all out attack.

[RichB]

m3sye said:

...Football of course is about opinions though - but having seen Roy 1st hand in charge of my club there is no way he is gonna totally take the reins off and go all out attack.

You may have a point. This is probably why Aaron cresswell didn't get a look in, he's just too good going forwards and at crossing the ball.

[lionelf]

m3sye said:

Week in week out I read the Spurs thread and walker is getting pulled apart most games about his ability to defend and his consistent mistake making

He's been very good this season, you must be talking about the season before.

[m3sye]

lionelf said:

He's been very good this season, you must be talking about the season before.

Nope I could go on the thread now probably within 10 pages and find a number of posters slating him ....

Has he not made something like 5 defensive errors leading to goals this season too? could be wrong

[Black can man]

TBH i'd rather Clyne play than Walker, i'd like our Kyle to have a nice long rest before next season.

I'm sure he'll do a good job. He's had a lot of practice at defending this season.

[m3sye]

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[m3sye]

You say that as if you have seen Roy's plan for the Euros
.he will not go gung-ho