The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 2]
Discussion
GloverMart said:
I think what has got my back up is the fact that Roy stressed in one of his press conferences that he would be taking players on form, not on reputation.
Yet he then picks Wilshere and Sterling above Drinkwater and Townsend. Drinkwater has been an 8/10 performer all season in the Premier League champions team and Townsend has come into form just at the right time.
Poor from Hodgson.
Very poor. He's defaulted to the usual England Manager mindset at the very last minute.Yet he then picks Wilshere and Sterling above Drinkwater and Townsend. Drinkwater has been an 8/10 performer all season in the Premier League champions team and Townsend has come into form just at the right time.
Poor from Hodgson.
Wilshire - you're kidding right?
Henderson - now you really are kidding.
Sturridge - hope you've packed the stretcher.
Barkley - below average season with below average Everton.
Milner - oh, dear.
Drinkwater - fantastic season feeding Vardy and commanding the midfield - nah, shalln't bother.
f
king unbelievable.Cobnapint said:
GloverMart said:
I think what has got my back up is the fact that Roy stressed in one of his press conferences that he would be taking players on form, not on reputation.
Yet he then picks Wilshere and Sterling above Drinkwater and Townsend. Drinkwater has been an 8/10 performer all season in the Premier League champions team and Townsend has come into form just at the right time.
Poor from Hodgson.
Very poor. He's defaulted to the usual England Manager mindset at the very last minute.Yet he then picks Wilshere and Sterling above Drinkwater and Townsend. Drinkwater has been an 8/10 performer all season in the Premier League champions team and Townsend has come into form just at the right time.
Poor from Hodgson.
Wilshire - you're kidding right?
Henderson - now you really are kidding.
Sturridge - hope you've packed the stretcher.
Barkley - below average season with below average Everton.
Milner - oh, dear.
Drinkwater - fantastic season feeding Vardy and commanding the midfield - nah, shalln't bother.
f
king unbelievable.I can see the thinking behind taking 3 CBs with Dier as cover, but who's going to do Dier's defensive midfield job if he has to drop into CB, or gets injured? Drinkwater has played there all season for the League champions.
Squirrelofwoe said:
Evil Jack said:
And yet he has anchored the midfield that won the Premier League.
A midfield which included the powerhouse of Kante, who was on another level to everyone else.Certainly not belittling Drinkwater's performances (I still think he should be in the squad) but England don't have a Kante in the midfield to play alongside him, which might explain why he has looked nowhere near his Leicester level in the couple of games he's played for England?
JustinF said:
When Woy said he'd pick on form he meant England Manager form and he's delivered on that promise, injured players with no match fitness, players from marquee clubs over unfashionable ones and likely to play at least 40% of the squad out of position.
Nail, head. League Champions - 1 player
League team that went into self destruct mode - 5 players
The concern i have is that we are screwed if Dier gets injured, and we have nothing different off the bench. Lalana, Barkley etc are all the same player. The one wide player who can make a difference gets dropped.
I asked my Liverpool supporting friend what Henderson does for Liverpool and his first words back where 'he has a great engine'.
Thank god we have him in the squad.
Nice one Roy.
I asked my Liverpool supporting friend what Henderson does for Liverpool and his first words back where 'he has a great engine'.
Thank god we have him in the squad. Nice one Roy.
Challo said:
The concern i have is that we are screwed if Dier gets injured, and we have nothing different off the bench. Lalana, Barkley etc are all the same player. The one wide player who can make a difference gets dropped.
I asked my Liverpool supporting friend what Henderson does for Liverpool and his first words back where 'he has a great engine'. Thank god we have him in the squad.
Nice one Roy.
Even though he is the captain of our club I do think his place is under threat next year - I have a feeling Klopp wants a play maker next to Can....I asked my Liverpool supporting friend what Henderson does for Liverpool and his first words back where 'he has a great engine'.
Thank god we have him in the squad. Nice one Roy.
I do think this year has not been his best though as he has been playing in pain for a lot of it...... so yes another 1 going who is at major risk of not been fit....
I just don't understand how tournament after tournament we keep picking players who are unfit! I don't really care about the make up of the squad but at least pick the players that can play 90 minuntes!
From what I've figured we have injury/fitness worries with:
Cahill
Wilshere
Henderson
Sterling (not played too much)
Rooney
Sturridge
That's a lot of players out of a squad that will need to play games in fairly short order.
From what I've figured we have injury/fitness worries with:
Cahill
Wilshere
Henderson
Sterling (not played too much)
Rooney
Sturridge
That's a lot of players out of a squad that will need to play games in fairly short order.
London424 said:
I just don't understand how tournament after tournament we keep picking players who are unfit! I don't really care about the make up of the squad but at least pick the players that can play 90 minuntes!
...and play them in the positions they've been playing all season...London424 said:
I just don't understand how tournament after tournament we keep picking players who are unfit! I don't really care about the make up of the squad but at least pick the players that can play 90 minuntes!
From what I've figured we have injury/fitness worries with:
Cahill
Wilshere
Henderson
Sterling (not played too much)
Rooney
Sturridge
That's a lot of players out of a squad that will need to play games in fairly short order.
The fact is that at the end of a season most players will be carrying a niggling injury, most players for most countries.From what I've figured we have injury/fitness worries with:
Cahill
Wilshere
Henderson
Sterling (not played too much)
Rooney
Sturridge
That's a lot of players out of a squad that will need to play games in fairly short order.
Wilshere could as easily turn out to be the star of the tournament, he hasn't played much so he won't be tired and is very passionate about England. I see no risk in taking him.
Sturridge is talented enough too, even if he only comes on for 20 minutes and as for citing Rooney and others, blimey, why not just take 11 players and be done!
It's a very good squad, they will be at least as fit and well prepared as other teams and will do well.
A hell of a lot of sides won't want to face England and that's a fact.
A quarter final place makes them one of the best 8 teams in Europe which is what i think they are, no team is going to beat us easily, nobody.
This tournament will be won and lost on the tiniest thing, a mistake, a mis
t, a brilliant goal, a great run, a goal line miss.That is what it'll come down to.
The players are easily fit enough and will be comfortably good enough.
I'm off to see them tomorrow night and I might well go to France too because as far as I'm concerned the time for talking about who should or shouldn't go has GONE.
Lets get behind the team (like Leicester fans did last season) and make others notice us. Greece won it not long ago too, tournament football doesn't require total fitness from every player. Do you think Ronaldo is 100% fit? I bet there aren't many Portugese saying to leave him at home.
COME ON ENGLAND !
Thankyou4calling said:
The fact is that at the end of a season most players will be carrying a niggling injury, most players for most countries.
Wilshere could as easily turn out to be the star of the tournament, he hasn't played much so he won't be tired and is very passionate about England. I see no risk in taking him.
Sturridge is talented enough too, even if he only comes on for 20 minutes and as for citing Rooney and others, blimey, why not just take 11 players and be done!
It's a very good squad, they will be at least as fit and well prepared as other teams and will do well.
A hell of a lot of sides won't want to face England and that's a fact.
A quarter final place makes them one of the best 8 teams in Europe which is what i think they are, no team is going to beat us easily, nobody.
This tournament will be won and lost on the tiniest thing, a mistake, a mist, a brilliant goal, a great run, a goal line miss.
That is what it'll come down to.
The players are easily fit enough and will be comfortably good enough.
I'm off to see them tomorrow night and I might well go to France too because as far as I'm concerned the time for talking about who should or shouldn't go has GONE.
Lets get behind the team (like Leicester fans did last season) and make others notice us. Greece won it not long ago too, tournament football doesn't require total fitness from every player. Do you think Ronaldo is 100% fit? I bet there aren't many Portugese saying to leave him at home.
COME ON ENGLAND !
Wilshere could as easily turn out to be the star of the tournament, he hasn't played much so he won't be tired and is very passionate about England. I see no risk in taking him.
Sturridge is talented enough too, even if he only comes on for 20 minutes and as for citing Rooney and others, blimey, why not just take 11 players and be done!
It's a very good squad, they will be at least as fit and well prepared as other teams and will do well.
A hell of a lot of sides won't want to face England and that's a fact.
A quarter final place makes them one of the best 8 teams in Europe which is what i think they are, no team is going to beat us easily, nobody.
This tournament will be won and lost on the tiniest thing, a mistake, a mis
t, a brilliant goal, a great run, a goal line miss.That is what it'll come down to.
The players are easily fit enough and will be comfortably good enough.
I'm off to see them tomorrow night and I might well go to France too because as far as I'm concerned the time for talking about who should or shouldn't go has GONE.
Lets get behind the team (like Leicester fans did last season) and make others notice us. Greece won it not long ago too, tournament football doesn't require total fitness from every player. Do you think Ronaldo is 100% fit? I bet there aren't many Portugese saying to leave him at home.
COME ON ENGLAND !
Get out of here with your reasoned logic and your sensible comments!
Thankyou4calling said:
London424 said:
I just don't understand how tournament after tournament we keep picking players who are unfit! I don't really care about the make up of the squad but at least pick the players that can play 90 minuntes!
From what I've figured we have injury/fitness worries with:
Cahill
Wilshere
Henderson
Sterling (not played too much)
Rooney
Sturridge
That's a lot of players out of a squad that will need to play games in fairly short order.
The fact is that at the end of a season most players will be carrying a niggling injury, most players for most countries.From what I've figured we have injury/fitness worries with:
Cahill
Wilshere
Henderson
Sterling (not played too much)
Rooney
Sturridge
That's a lot of players out of a squad that will need to play games in fairly short order.
Wilshere could as easily turn out to be the star of the tournament, he hasn't played much so he won't be tired and is very passionate about England. I see no risk in taking him.
Sturridge is talented enough too, even if he only comes on for 20 minutes and as for citing Rooney and others, blimey, why not just take 11 players and be done!
It's a very good squad, they will be at least as fit and well prepared as other teams and will do well.
A hell of a lot of sides won't want to face England and that's a fact.
A quarter final place makes them one of the best 8 teams in Europe which is what i think they are, no team is going to beat us easily, nobody.
This tournament will be won and lost on the tiniest thing, a mistake, a mis
t, a brilliant goal, a great run, a goal line miss.That is what it'll come down to.
The players are easily fit enough and will be comfortably good enough.
I'm off to see them tomorrow night and I might well go to France too because as far as I'm concerned the time for talking about who should or shouldn't go has GONE.
Lets get behind the team (like Leicester fans did last season) and make others notice us. Greece won it not long ago too, tournament football doesn't require total fitness from every player. Do you think Ronaldo is 100% fit? I bet there aren't many Portugese saying to leave him at home.
COME ON ENGLAND !
As you say, games are decided on the tiniest of margins, if you aren't fit you make more mistakes, you can't get to balls you normally would, or you're slightly out of position etc.
The point is, you need players to be match fit, not just capable of jogging round, it's the match sharpness, the speed of thought etc that comes with it.
I'll be supporting the team as I normally do but believe that we don't do ourselves any favours with team selections and we end up going away dissapointed. England should make the semi-finals of every Euro tournament, anything less than that and it's a complete failure.
Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff