The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 2]
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London424 said:
Tuvra said:
London424 said:
1.) England hadn't won a 6 nations for 13 years, losing the crucial game a number of times in that period.
2.) Oz reached the WC final, losing to an AB team containing some of the greatest players to ever play the game.
3.) If you don't think the manager has been an influence on this then I'm not sure what else to say.
1.) And that's purely the coaches fault? Nothing to do with not having a good enough team or the other countries being stronger?2.) Oz reached the WC final, losing to an AB team containing some of the greatest players to ever play the game.
3.) If you don't think the manager has been an influence on this then I'm not sure what else to say.
2.) What has that got to do with anything, seriously? Wales beat England at Twickenham, they've lost there twice since
3.) That's not what I said, I said "they are seriously deluded if they think that Eddie Jones has solely turned around the English Fortunes".
We'll see how the English Invincible's do in the 6N. Anyway, apologies for going off subject....
Teams often take on the attitude and demeanor of their coach. The margins at the elite level of sport are often pretty slim and small tweaks in how a manager/coach interacts and gets the best out of the team very often makes the difference.
Look at SAF. Winning was all that mattered. Coming second wasn't acceptable. Look at the squad he won the league with the year he retired.
Coaches/Managers do have a significant influence on how teams play. If you hire 'steady hands' type coaches don't expect to win things.
TEKNOPUG said:
Roy has a 42.6% win rate as club manager. The average win rate of the top 6 manager's in last year's EPL is 50.2%.
Roy is very, very average. Why anyone employing him would expect after 900+ games, for him to deliver teams and performances that were in any way above average, has always been a mystery to me.
He has made mediocre teams (and I'm a Fulham lad) punch above their weight which I think is what's needed with the national team - although the weight of expectancy/entitlement must be unbearable. Roy is very, very average. Why anyone employing him would expect after 900+ games, for him to deliver teams and performances that were in any way above average, has always been a mystery to me.
22 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Roy has a 42.6% win rate as club manager. The average win rate of the top 6 manager's in last year's EPL is 50.2%.
Roy is very, very average. Why anyone employing him would expect after 900+ games, for him to deliver teams and performances that were in any way above average, has always been a mystery to me.
He has made mediocre teams (and I'm a Fulham lad) punch above their weight which I think is what's needed with the national team - although the weight of expectancy/entitlement must be unbearable. Roy is very, very average. Why anyone employing him would expect after 900+ games, for him to deliver teams and performances that were in any way above average, has always been a mystery to me.
mr sagman said:
Antony Moxey said:
^^ It's a rare talent to be able to write that many words and get nearly every one of them wrong.
You really should read more of his posts, Seems a nice guy but so biased and rose tinted towards Man U it is unreal.. Pretty much all other players except Man U one's are all pub players apparently. 
Not at all. It just happens that most of the bad England players are from Liverpool or at least have played for Liverpool (Henderson and Sterling). The only pub player is Vardy. The others are just average to poor PL players.
It aint my fault that Man U has provided our only decent midfielder aside from Dier.
Turquoise said:
Rooney was the worst player on the pitch when he came on against Slovakia.
I know it's fun winding up ManU fans but that's an exaggeration. Most England players were off form and some absolute crap. Rooney was just average, not the worst, not the best just anonymous really. Bit like he was in the Prem last season 
RichB said:
Turquoise said:
Rooney was the worst player on the pitch when he came on against Slovakia.
I know it's fun winding up ManU fans but that's an exaggeration. Most England players were off form and some absolute crap. Rooney was just average, not the worst, not the best just anonymous really. Bit like he was in the Prem last season The vast gulf between what we expected from him (as captain as well remember) and what we saw from him, made him the biggest disappointment on the pitch IMO.
gadgetmac said:
philv said:
Looking like Portugal next for us. Balls
Why "balls"?We'll be favourites with the bookies to win. All things being equal I'd expect us to overcome them.
They have one of the best players in the world who just found his scoring touch again and who loves playing against england.
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