The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 2]

[DuncanM]

tedman said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Perhaps if the countless hours wasted in tattoo parlours were spent doing extra training and studying videos of the opposition, we might do better.

You could argue that having some downtime (whether that's a tattoo parlour or not) is beneficial to the players overall well-being.

You could also argue that anyone who even considers banning people from getting tattoos is an absolute loon, and not to be taken seriously :-/

Regarding England, I was defending Hodgson a few pages back, and now I feel a little (alright a lot) silly! His decision making was that of a madman. Playing Sterling and Wilshere, in a must win game, when they're both terribly off form? Unbelievable.

That said, I still maintain that the players must take equal blame, and as a country, we just don't produce good enough footballers.

Every 2 years I mug myself off, by believing that we're going to do something! But this time I wasn't even angry, it becomes less painful as the years go by ah

[Puggit]

I gave up watching England friendlies and then qualifiers a long time ago. Ok, I'll sit in hope for the major competitions but I won't get excited. I wasn't even angry last night - just resigned to my fate.

Thank God I'm half Welsh - I've been able to get behind a team. There's no team in England, just a bunch of players who care more about their club and a clueless manager.

[Thankyou4calling]

aeropilot said:

He would have watched him then.

Dad was born in 1926, and became a Bees supporter after his family moved from Preston down to Brentford (and to a house about a quarter of a mile from Griffin park) a few months before the start of WW2.

I went to school (Isleworth Grammar School) with Brentford goalkeeper Chic Brodies son Grant.

He was subsequently murdered :-(

[RichB]

Puggit said:

Thank God I'm half Welsh - I've been able to get behind a team. There's no team in England, just a bunch of players who care more about their club and a clueless manager.

I'll be supporting France. My family name can be traced back to 1066 and the Norman Conquest, so a small part of me is French. Well I say that but they may have been Germanic mercenaries on the side of the Normans, no one's figured that bit out! Either way Dimitry Payet is a Hammer so it suits me

[Challo]

Puggit said:

I gave up watching England friendlies and then qualifiers a long time ago. Ok, I'll sit in hope for the major competitions but I won't get excited. I wasn't even angry last night - just resigned to my fate.

Thank God I'm half Welsh - I've been able to get behind a team. There's no team in England, just a bunch of players who care more about their club and a clueless manager.

I'll watch the big tournaments, but never watch the qualifiers. I normally find watching paint dry for 90 mins more entertaining.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

tedman said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Perhaps if the countless hours wasted in tattoo parlours were spent doing extra training and studying videos of the opposition, we might do better.

You could argue that having some downtime (whether that's a tattoo parlour or not) is beneficial to the players overall well-being.

Ahhh, that must be why they have performed so well over the years.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

RichB said:

Either way Dimitry Payet is a Hammer so it suits me

He won't be for long if he continues to play so well. He'll be bought by someone decent.

[London424]

I'd quite like to see Klinsmann tapped up. He's a National team manager, has done a pretty decent job with the US. Played in England so understands the fans/culture. He's a better option than any English managers I can think of at the moment.

The other option could be stick Southgate in as a caretaker and try and tap up Wenger when his contract expires at the end of the upcoming season.

[TheOversteerLever]

Can't wait to hear what Woy has to say at 4:00pm.

The press conference last night was an absolute shambles - he should be held to account and explain what went so badly wrong. Saying that we've got talented and hungry players and then just pissing off into the night just isn't acceptable.

It sounds like he wasn't going to attend the 4:00pm press conference either. fk me Woy, grow some balls, show some passion and accept some responsibility!

[tedman]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Ahhh, that must be why they have performed so well over the years.

I was merely saying (in a roundabout way) that banning tattoos is a stupid point to make.

[tedman]

It seems to me that the PL is there to train foreign players so they can then beat us at internationals in return

[London424]

I see that Sky Sources have ramped up.

"Senior players lost faith in Roy's decision making during tournament"

"Senior England players also questioned selection of Raheem Sterling against Iceland"

hahaha.

[mickk]

Press conference at 16:00 starring Roy.

[Blackpuddin]

[TwigtheWonderkid]

tedman said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Ahhh, that must be why they have performed so well over the years.

I was merely saying (in a roundabout way) that banning tattoos is a stupid point to make.

The tattoos are a symptom of a lack of professionalism, and bad decision making. When you embrace those two one aspect of your life, they creep into others. Same with the drinking and smoking.

[aeropilot]

Blackpuddin said:

That Icelandic player has obviously not ever seen Harry Kane interviewed

(he may be a half-talented footie player, but he's no Mastermind contender by any stretch of the imagination)

[m3sye]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

The tattoos are a symptom of a lack of professionalism, and bad decision making. When you embrace those two one aspect of your life, they creep into others. Same with the drinking and smoking.

Hello and welcome to 2016, we left the 60's quite a long time ago

[greygoose]

Blackpuddin said:

Hart comes across as a cock in the tunnel a lot of the time, the stupidity of Kane is pretty remarkable, perhaps Roy should have explained the nature of the knockout phase in a more simple manner........

[SilverSpur]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

1. Appoint a manger on a contract for 3 tournaments, with a break clause after each tournament. Give him (or her) targets that are public (QF in Russia, SF in next Euros, Final in Qatar. Decent pay, £250K a year with massive bonuses for hitting targets.

2. 4 players on the pitch for England at any time to come from outside the Prem. A mixture of quality and hunger. Players on £150K a week and players who want to be on £150K a week and this is their showcase.

3. Play English football and stick to it. 4-4-2. I know how Germany, Italy, Spain, Holland etc play. I have no idea how we play.

4. Limit on travelling fans. 3K max. These hordes of 25K fans following England and turning each game into a home game, does us no favours. We need a little section of fans in the corner, I want a hostile atmosphere, siege mentality. English play better like that.

5. No visible tattoos rule for next generation of players. No stupid haircuts. I want a line up of young men who look professional and are here to do a job.

6. Any player getting off team bus and walking past fans with headphones on is banned from England for life.

7. Army fitness test before tournament commences. If you fail you don't go. None of this "he'll be for for the next round" nonsense.

8. Strict limits on alcohol intake for England players. Any player having more than a glass of wine in 1 night is banned for life. Any player caught smoking is banned for life. Gazza would have put that Shearer cross away in Euro 96 SF in if he hadn't been in the dentist chair etc. A pound lighter, a tad quicker. Tiny margins add up.

That would be my starting point. But I doubt I'll get the job.

You missed out standing up straight and signing the national anthem before a match Twig. Review the footage last night, certain of our more 'gangster' young players think their too cool to be proud to be British. Or at least putting your hand on your heart. They put their hand on the club badge when the score In the league but not on their countries badge when the anthem is being sung.

Watch any - ANY other team during their anthems and it isn't like this.

[greygoose]

London424 said:

I'd quite like to see Klinsmann tapped up. He's a National team manager, has done a pretty decent job with the US. Played in England so understands the fans/culture. He's a better option than any English managers I can think of at the moment.

The other option could be stick Southgate in as a caretaker and try and tap up Wenger when his contract expires at the end of the upcoming season.

Klinsmann would be a good candidate.