The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 2]
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Well,we were 50 seconds into the game and we got stats from the England biased commentators just how many of the players on field currently played in the English league???
THIS DOES NOT MAKE THEM ENGLISH!!nor will any kind of English influence make either team win this evening!It will be either France or Portugal that will win tonight,England are out!
No doubt 1965 will be brought up tonight sometime,no sorry,66 wasn't it?
THIS DOES NOT MAKE THEM ENGLISH!!nor will any kind of English influence make either team win this evening!It will be either France or Portugal that will win tonight,England are out!
No doubt 1965 will be brought up tonight sometime,no sorry,66 wasn't it?
tescorank said:
Today's times:
Hiddink in running to replace Hodgson
The FA will start speaking to prospective England managers this week with Guus Hiddink emerging as a strong candidate, writes Jonathan Northcroft. Hiddink, 69, is keen on the England job, feeling he has something left to prove, especially in international management, after the failure of the more recent of his two spells in charge of Holland. A lover of English football, after two spells as Chelsea caretaker manager, he would relish the brief the FA have set out for next England manager – that of developing a playing blueprint for success and developing a young group of players. Hiddink wants to…
Jonathon Northcroft isn't an FA official. He is a journalist.Hiddink in running to replace Hodgson
The FA will start speaking to prospective England managers this week with Guus Hiddink emerging as a strong candidate, writes Jonathan Northcroft. Hiddink, 69, is keen on the England job, feeling he has something left to prove, especially in international management, after the failure of the more recent of his two spells in charge of Holland. A lover of English football, after two spells as Chelsea caretaker manager, he would relish the brief the FA have set out for next England manager – that of developing a playing blueprint for success and developing a young group of players. Hiddink wants to…
No official has said Hiddink will be England Manager.
zygalski said:
I think Hoddle's probably our best bet.
Also, I re-watched Hodgson 's infamous press conference & didn't see much wrong with what he said, apart from the incredible 'I don't know what I'm doing here' statement.
If you think that was incredible, have you heard why Hoddle was sacked last time?Also, I re-watched Hodgson 's infamous press conference & didn't see much wrong with what he said, apart from the incredible 'I don't know what I'm doing here' statement.
Where is this push for Hoddle coming from, his pals in the media again?
Intellectually he's one step removed from David Icke.
He messed up the 98 World Cup with one of the best squads we've ever had including Seaman, G. Neville, Adams, Scholes, Shearer, Beckham, Owen all in their prime.
Similar to Hodgson, against Romania in the group stages he didn't pick Owen or Beckham, preferring Batty and an ageing, ponderous Sheringham. We lost 2-1 (Owen scoring as soon as he belatedly came on as a sub) so instead of winning the group we got the Argies in the last 16 and were knocked out.
What else has he ever achieved? And what in the intervening 20 years suggests he will do any better?
(He did get the Gazza decision right though).
Intellectually he's one step removed from David Icke.
He messed up the 98 World Cup with one of the best squads we've ever had including Seaman, G. Neville, Adams, Scholes, Shearer, Beckham, Owen all in their prime.
Similar to Hodgson, against Romania in the group stages he didn't pick Owen or Beckham, preferring Batty and an ageing, ponderous Sheringham. We lost 2-1 (Owen scoring as soon as he belatedly came on as a sub) so instead of winning the group we got the Argies in the last 16 and were knocked out.
What else has he ever achieved? And what in the intervening 20 years suggests he will do any better?
(He did get the Gazza decision right though).
Northbloke said:
Where is this push for Hoddle coming from, his pals in the media again?
Intellectually he's one step removed from David Icke.
He messed up the 98 World Cup with one of the best squads we've ever had including Seaman, G. Neville, Adams, Scholes, Shearer, Beckham, Owen all in their prime.
Similar to Hodgson, against Romania in the group stages he didn't pick Owen or Beckham, preferring Batty and an ageing, ponderous Sheringham. We lost 2-1 (Owen scoring as soon as he belatedly came on as a sub) so instead of winning the group we got the Argies in the last 16 and were knocked out.
What else has he ever achieved? And what in the intervening 20 years suggests he will do any better?
(He did get the Gazza decision right though).
I pretty sure he didn't instruct Beckham to kick Simeone whilst he was lying on the floor and thus getting himself sent off Intellectually he's one step removed from David Icke.
He messed up the 98 World Cup with one of the best squads we've ever had including Seaman, G. Neville, Adams, Scholes, Shearer, Beckham, Owen all in their prime.
Similar to Hodgson, against Romania in the group stages he didn't pick Owen or Beckham, preferring Batty and an ageing, ponderous Sheringham. We lost 2-1 (Owen scoring as soon as he belatedly came on as a sub) so instead of winning the group we got the Argies in the last 16 and were knocked out.
What else has he ever achieved? And what in the intervening 20 years suggests he will do any better?
(He did get the Gazza decision right though).
A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
Hoddle said there was no point in practicing penalties as you can't recreate the pressure of a shoot out. This alone would be enough reason never to let him near an under 7s team, never mind the national squad. Factor in the bonkers nonsense and daft personal beliefs that got him sacked the last time, (that hasn't gone away), and it's a complete no-no.
The man is a weapons grade idiot.
The man is a weapons grade idiot.
TEKNOPUG said:
I pretty sure he didn't instruct Beckham to kick Simeone whilst he was lying on the floor and thus getting himself sent off
A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
Perhaps we should have practiced penalties???A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I pretty sure he didn't instruct Beckham to kick Simeone whilst he was lying on the floor and thus getting himself sent off
A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
Perhaps we should have practiced penalties???A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
TEKNOPUG said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I pretty sure he didn't instruct Beckham to kick Simeone whilst he was lying on the floor and thus getting himself sent off
A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
Perhaps we should have practiced penalties???A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
desolate said:
TEKNOPUG said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I pretty sure he didn't instruct Beckham to kick Simeone whilst he was lying on the floor and thus getting himself sent off
A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
Perhaps we should have practiced penalties???A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
Northbloke said:
He messed up the 98 World Cup with one of the best squads we've ever had including Seaman, G. Neville, Adams, Scholes, Shearer, Beckham, Owen all in their prime.
Similar to Hodgson, against Romania in the group stages he didn't pick Owen or Beckham, preferring Batty and an ageing, ponderous Sheringham. We lost 2-1 (Owen scoring as soon as he belatedly came on as a sub) so instead of winning the group we got the Argies in the last 16 and were knocked out.
What else has he ever achieved? And what in the intervening 20 years suggests he will do any better?
(He did get the Gazza decision right though).
Similar to Hodgson, against Romania in the group stages he didn't pick Owen or Beckham, preferring Batty and an ageing, ponderous Sheringham. We lost 2-1 (Owen scoring as soon as he belatedly came on as a sub) so instead of winning the group we got the Argies in the last 16 and were knocked out.
What else has he ever achieved? And what in the intervening 20 years suggests he will do any better?
(He did get the Gazza decision right though).
TwigtheWonderkid said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I pretty sure he didn't instruct Beckham to kick Simeone whilst he was lying on the floor and thus getting himself sent off
A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
Perhaps we should have practiced penalties???A match that was even at 2-2 at the time and England had to play almost the entire second half with 10 men and even then only lost on penalties 4-3.
Perhaps he should have done the same as the Romania game and not picked Beckham? That probably doesn't fit your agenda though?
He reckoned that, because they knew they had no chance at individual level, they practiced day in, day out for weeks on end before a meeting, so that they had honed it to perfection. They are always there or thereabouts when the championships take place.
There just seem to be so many matches which now end in a penalty shoot-out, perhaps England should consider themselves as penalty specialists, and take a different approach to their matches. Defend all 90 mins, and then win the shoot-out.
(Removes tongue from cheek.......)
I think penalties should be on the national curriculum, from age 5, with maths and English. Last lesson on a Friday, kids take 5 pens. If they don't score 4, they have to come in early on Monday. That adds pressure.
By the time they leave school every kid will be able to take a decent pen.
By the time they leave school every kid will be able to take a decent pen.
hornetrider said:
Big Sam heavily tipped. No f
king about, no prima donnas, hard work. A way of playing. Expert at avoiding relegation. Just what England needs I think. I'm surprised the FA is considering him though.
He'll finally get the call when FIFA introduce Davis Cup style qualification....king about, no prima donnas, hard work. A way of playing. Expert at avoiding relegation. Just what England needs I think. I'm surprised the FA is considering him though. Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff