The Official England Thread-The Team We All Support [Vol 2]
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bad company said:
Axionknight said:
bad company said:
We didn't see much of the creative football you describe while he was at West Ham.
Sunderland were playing well under him - no hoofball or any such thing, creative stuff and by the time he had them working they were hard to beat too - one loss in twelve and that was against Leicester.
RichB said:
unny isn't it, under our 'Arry we had Paolo DiCanio, raised and sold half the future England team, won the Inter-Two-Bob Cup and that was it. Under Sam we got immediate return to the Prem and were a solid team but never had a talisman or fun players like with the mad Italian. Yet we all seem to look back on the 'Arry years as happy days
I think Arry was looked at as one of us.bad company said:
I think Arry was looked at as one of us.
I know... I used to watch him and Johnny Sissons maruding down the wings when I was a kid. And, I still have a bit of a soft spot for 'Aitch despite many Hammers fans thinking he's the number one Judas Iscariot. He's alright is Harry but I don't think he'd be a good England manager.RichB said:
I know... I used to watch him and Johnny Sissons maruding down the wings when I was a kid. And, I still have a bit of a soft spot for 'Aitch despite many Hammers fans thinking he's the number one Judas Iscariot. He's alright is Harry but I don't think he'd be a good England manager.
Yeah happy memories of H as a player. I think he would have been a good England manager but perhaps a bit late for him now.The West Ham debate is a good one actually. Delusions of grandeur, good in the 60's, living on past glories, dumped out of the lower reaches of the Top Table.
Cue BSA, steady the ship, ground & motivate all the remnants after the fancy dan underachievers move on and up chasing dosh and club trinkets, get competitive again. Thats when you get the luxury of choice / dice rolling a la Bilic.
Cue BSA, steady the ship, ground & motivate all the remnants after the fancy dan underachievers move on and up chasing dosh and club trinkets, get competitive again. Thats when you get the luxury of choice / dice rolling a la Bilic.
RichB said:
Fair enough but not quite correct if I may say so. Actually not much cop in the '60s, excellent in the '80s and a gnat's whisker away from winning the league (pre-sky & premiership if anyone cares) then as you say up and down a bit since then.
I was generalising but you got the point. That 80's team was the best under Lyall (where does he sit in characterisation of a manager ?), bit like Englands brief run under Robson. Even younger WHU fans buy into the false idea of great 20th Century teams predating JL.Edited by Speed 3 on Tuesday 12th July 22:41
RichB said:
Fair enough but not quite correct if I may say so. Actually not much cop in the '60s, excellent in the '80s and a gnat's whisker away from winning the league (pre-sky & premiership if anyone cares) then as you say up and down a bit since then.
From what I can see, WHU were awful in the 80s, bar the one season they finished 3rd.Usually finished below mid table and were relegated in the late 80s.
Trabi601 said:
From what I can see, WHU were awful in the 80s, bar the one season they finished 3rd.
Yeah, whatever. I'm guessing you are too young to have seen them. The John Lyall team of the mid 80s (do I really need to be specific - I assumed we are all football fans on here) is widely recognised as the best ever Hammers team - and it wasn't a one year flash in the pan. 
Speed 3 said:
The West Ham debate is a good one actually. Delusions of grandeur, good in the 60's, living on past glories, dumped out of the lower reaches of the Top Table.
Cue BSA, steady the ship, ground & motivate all the remnants after the fancy dan underachievers move on and up chasing dosh and club trinkets, get competitive again. Thats when you get the luxury of choice / dice rolling a la Bilic.
The second paragraph is what I was sorta hoping for at Sunderland tbh, alas, we may not get the chance.Cue BSA, steady the ship, ground & motivate all the remnants after the fancy dan underachievers move on and up chasing dosh and club trinkets, get competitive again. Thats when you get the luxury of choice / dice rolling a la Bilic.
All I want is a measly 12th place finish for a change! *sob*
RichB said:
Yeah, whatever. I'm guessing you are too young to have seen them. The John Lyall team of the mid 80s (do I really need to be specific - I assumed we are all football fans on here) is widely recognised as the best ever Hammers team - and it wasn't a one year flash in the pan.
They were a 1 year flash in the pan! - one decent league result over a whole decade.WHU fans have to be the most deluded out there!
Pretty football counts for nothing if you don't win anything.
Hopefully it proves to be true.
Never been convinced by Bruce
Howe is too young, would be a shame to wreck his career before it really gets going (not many England managers recover properly from being England manager).
Without wishing to sound like a little englander, I really don't want a german managing the english team.
Never been convinced by Bruce
Howe is too young, would be a shame to wreck his career before it really gets going (not many England managers recover properly from being England manager).
Without wishing to sound like a little englander, I really don't want a german managing the english team.
Dr Murdoch said:
Hopefully it proves to be true.
Never been convinced by Bruce
Howe is too young, would be a shame to wreck his career before it really gets going (not many England managers recover properly from being England manager).
Without wishing to sound like a little englander, I really don't want a german managing the english team.
Why not? The chap in charge of the Yanks is pretty good.Never been convinced by Bruce
Howe is too young, would be a shame to wreck his career before it really gets going (not many England managers recover properly from being England manager).
Without wishing to sound like a little englander, I really don't want a german managing the english team.
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