Suarez biting again
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VladD said:
OK, you make a fair point. I guess in retrospect that I worded that badly. I watched the three England vs New Zealand internationals recently and enjoyed all of them. Rugby is a contact sport and stuff goers on, but in general you can watch a whole game without thinking anyone is acting like a little girl. You're lucky if you can get through 10 minutes of football these days without someone faking injury, trying to "win" (I hate that word in that context) a free kick or penalty or generally throwing a tantrum.
Even the pundits don't help. I used to like Alan Shearer as a player, but his constant support of players diving if they get the slighest touch makes me angry.
I hope I've cleared up my point of view. I'm sure you can find examples in rugby to counter act my argument, but it'll happen rarely in rugby, but in every game of fottball.
The "professionalism" (money) that has entered Rugby has really ruined it as a spectacle; certainly from what it was as an amateur sport. You can't really "dive" so much in Rugby or pretend that you have been clattered - that's part of the game.Even the pundits don't help. I used to like Alan Shearer as a player, but his constant support of players diving if they get the slighest touch makes me angry.
I hope I've cleared up my point of view. I'm sure you can find examples in rugby to counter act my argument, but it'll happen rarely in rugby, but in every game of fottball.
The frustrating thing about football, with regards to the diving, feigning injury, play-acting etc is that it is so very easy to stop.
VladD said:
TEKNOPUG said:
The frustrating thing about football, with regards to the diving, feigning injury, play-acting etc is that it is so very easy to stop.
Agreed.TEKNOPUG said:
VladD said:
TEKNOPUG said:
The frustrating thing about football, with regards to the diving, feigning injury, play-acting etc is that it is so very easy to stop.
Agreed.TEKNOPUG said:
epom said:
Very little being reported in the press, and surprisingly very little being discussed on here about and English fan biting the ear off of another English fan. Considering it is currently the worlds most heinous crime (biting that is) I expected mass hysteria for a much much more serious case. However as I've said.... very little about it. Odd that.
Does the English fan have previous for biting someone? Has he been prosecuted for biting someone before? Did he then bite someone again in a totally separate incident, some time after he had served his punishment? Was he prosecuted and punished again?
Are you now saying that he has bitten someone again, for the THIRD time, after already being prosecuted and served sentences for 2 identical offences?
epom said:
Not so sure, but this guy actually broke skin bit off a piece of ear and actually seriously hurt someone.... love it, this a far more serious crime yet passed over by asking questions about what Suarez did ? Odd.
The seriousness of the crime in your opinion, is irrelevant. It's the fact that he's already been charged and punished on 2 separate occasions, for the same offence, that is the issue. You'd have to be some sort of special idiot to go and repeat the offence for a 3rd time, whatever it may be.Something which you fail to grasp time and again on more than one thread discussing Suarez.
The time to discuss the seriousness of the offence was the first time that he did it. Rightly or wrongly, the fact that he was banned for 7 games the first time, would suggest that he would be aware of the minimum punishment, should he do it again. Did he think when he bit Ivanovic, that everyone would have forgotten about the previous incident and he'd just get a stern talking to, I mean, it was only a bite? If so, he was very much mistaken, as he was banned for 10 games.
So what exactly did he, you or anyone else think would happen if he bit someone AGAIN? If you find it unacceptable to be banned for 4 months just for biting someone (again), then try to think of it as a 4 month ban for utter stupidity.
Nicholas Bendtner was fined £80k for showing his pants. Is he likely to do it again? Only if he's some kind of simpleton. Maybe he'd get a 10 game ban that time. Surely there is no way on Earth that he'd actually do it again though? I mean, a third time. He'd be looking at a 4 month ban then....for showing his pants.......or for being an idiot?
epom said:
ascayman said:
epom said:
Very little being reported in the press,.
It was on front page of the sun yesterday 
Shots fired.
Luis Suárez ban: Uruguay president calls Fifa ‘old sons of b
hes’
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/30/lu...
Luis Suárez ban: Uruguay president calls Fifa ‘old sons of b
hes’http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/30/lu...
That's the nub of it. Suarez is an unsophisticated individual, but not stupid. He understood all that, and yet still bit again - in the most public place he could have ever imagined.
There are deeper issues at play for this guy, who continues to need help, clearly. cf the thought-provoking link to an article examining this that was posted on this thread over the weekend.
There are deeper issues at play for this guy, who continues to need help, clearly. cf the thought-provoking link to an article examining this that was posted on this thread over the weekend.
epom said:
Not so sure, but this guy actually broke skin bit off a piece of ear and actually seriously hurt someone.... love it, this a far more serious crime yet passed over by asking questions about what Suarez did ? Odd.
It's hard to bite somebodies shoulder off, who knows what would have happened if he caught the ear.A bite is a bite, the crime is the same even though the affected area and the result can differ.
Cie said:
Shots fired.
Luis Suárez ban: Uruguay president calls Fifa ‘old sons of bhes’
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/30/lu...
Fix your link dickwad Luis Suárez ban: Uruguay president calls Fifa ‘old sons of b
hes’http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/30/lu...
hornetrider said:
TEKNOPUG said:
The seriousness of the crime in your opinion, is irrelevant.
You seem completely unaware that your opinion is also completely irrelevant with regards to this case.Now personally, I don't think that the original incident in Holland was worthy of a 7 match ban - a retrospect red card and 3 match ban would have sufficed. However, he's not being punished for biting someone in isolation; he's being punished for repeatedly committing the same offence, and therefore the actual offence itself and suitable punishment is no longer the issue.
hornetrider said:
Cie said:
Shots fired.
Luis Suárez ban: Uruguay president calls Fifa ‘old sons of bhes’
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/30/lu...
Fix your link dickwad Luis Suárez ban: Uruguay president calls Fifa ‘old sons of b
hes’http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/30/lu...
Here you go, t
t. http://gu.com/p/3qh3e/tw 
Kosovan team offer Suarez some football while on ban:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/...
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