Cristiano Ronaldo
Discussion
selym said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Ntv said:
IMHO Maradona was still a level above either of them. The Lineker anecdote about Maradona says a lot
Agreed. If Maradona had been a slim 6'3 like Ronaldo and not a barrel chested 5'6, Christ knows what he would have been like. but he was rolling in the deep
hyphen said:
selym said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Ntv said:
IMHO Maradona was still a level above either of them. The Lineker anecdote about Maradona says a lot
Agreed. If Maradona had been a slim 6'3 like Ronaldo and not a barrel chested 5'6, Christ knows what he would have been like. but he was rolling in the deep
Thankyou4calling said:
In my opinion he would’ve been worse.
A genius is a genius, to try and change him would be to jeopardise losing what made him.
He smoke, he drank, he womanised, he took drugs.
Take that away and I’d offer that he would not have been as good because you’d be attempting to change his very DNA.
Just my opinion.
You think he'd have been a worse footballer if he didn't smoke and drink?A genius is a genius, to try and change him would be to jeopardise losing what made him.
He smoke, he drank, he womanised, he took drugs.
Take that away and I’d offer that he would not have been as good because you’d be attempting to change his very DNA.
Just my opinion.
Olivera said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
You think he'd have been a worse footballer if he didn't smoke and drink?
He'd certainly have been worse in the 94 World Cup period if you took away his (performance enhancing) drugs, possibly in other periods if he also took them then.Ntv said:
Very very much doubt this tbh. When he was at his best I think that - at a stretch - might have been the case, but he is a long way off the player he was 5 years ago.
In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
Top scorer in Serie A last season with 5 more than 90 million Lukaku, in less games, and top goal scorer in the Euros. But yeah, he’s well past it.In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
Ntv said:
Ascayman said:
Ive been lucky enough to see them both play a number of times both great players undoubtedly, in terms of the best though its messi without a shadow of a doubt he just has something that cant be coached, cant be trained he's a freak and has talent Ronaldo could only dream of.
Where Ronaldo does have one over messi is balls and self confidence which i admire greatly. To come back to the Prem at this time in his life shows that, personally im not convinced it'll a massive success but the fact hes man enough to take on the challenge where Messi has just copped out by going to a no mark club in a no mark league says a lot about the character of both.
Agree Messi is the better player. Ronaldo better at dead balls, heading and is more of a force of nature personality-wise, as you're implying. Where Ronaldo does have one over messi is balls and self confidence which i admire greatly. To come back to the Prem at this time in his life shows that, personally im not convinced it'll a massive success but the fact hes man enough to take on the challenge where Messi has just copped out by going to a no mark club in a no mark league says a lot about the character of both.
Personally I think Ronaldo is well past it and it won't make much difference to Man U one way or another, though is a great factor making this season more interesting. Can't see Man U being close to the title tbh.
Ronaldo is a great player and a great athlete but he’s not a genius like Messi.
GTO-3R said:
Ntv said:
Very very much doubt this tbh. When he was at his best I think that - at a stretch - might have been the case, but he is a long way off the player he was 5 years ago.
In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
Top scorer in Serie A last season with 5 more than 90 million Lukaku, in less games, and top goal scorer in the Euros. But yeah, he’s well past it.In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
We'll wait and see. I think he'll do decently well, and score quite a few goals, and some great ones. But Man Utd are going to be nowhere near the title.
Chelsea - much stronger now than under Lampard
Man City - about the same as last season
Liverpool - Anfield and VVD back, though team maybe a bit tired
All 3 will finish above Man U, who I think will be in the mix with Spurs and Leicester for 4th.
Ntv said:
GTO-3R said:
Ntv said:
Very very much doubt this tbh. When he was at his best I think that - at a stretch - might have been the case, but he is a long way off the player he was 5 years ago.
In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
Top scorer in Serie A last season with 5 more than 90 million Lukaku, in less games, and top goal scorer in the Euros. But yeah, he’s well past it.In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
We'll wait and see. I think he'll do decently well, and score quite a few goals, and some great ones. But Man Utd are going to be nowhere near the title.
Chelsea - much stronger now than under Lampard
Man City - about the same as last season
Liverpool - Anfield and VVD back, though team maybe a bit tired
All 3 will finish above Man U, who I think will be in the mix with Spurs and Leicester for 4th.
.. TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm just laughing at the chanting in that video, as a Lazio fan. GTO-3R said:
Ntv said:
GTO-3R said:
Ntv said:
Very very much doubt this tbh. When he was at his best I think that - at a stretch - might have been the case, but he is a long way off the player he was 5 years ago.
In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
Top scorer in Serie A last season with 5 more than 90 million Lukaku, in less games, and top goal scorer in the Euros. But yeah, he’s well past it.In the Euros he largely strolled around. Still deadly in front of goal yes, but not the lighting fast player who terrorised defences of old.
We'll wait and see. I think he'll do decently well, and score quite a few goals, and some great ones. But Man Utd are going to be nowhere near the title.
Chelsea - much stronger now than under Lampard
Man City - about the same as last season
Liverpool - Anfield and VVD back, though team maybe a bit tired
All 3 will finish above Man U, who I think will be in the mix with Spurs and Leicester for 4th.
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