The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

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ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
m3sye said:
DSLiverpool said:
Diego Simeone in (the ONLY choice IMHO)

Agreed - as per my post above
Yep noticed and its the only option long term, we will need a short termer to finish the season though
At the risk of upsetting the natives why on earth someone take the Liverpool job?

type-r

14,092 posts

214 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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London424 said:
Not only that...

Liverpool Echo said:
Those inside Anfield for the defeat to Chelsea can attest to Mignolet's bizarre pass out of play right on the final whistle. It would have gifted the visitors a corner from absolutely no danger at all.
Rodgers got rid of Reina for this bag of sh!te? He really hasn't got a clue.

DSLiverpool

14,762 posts

203 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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ascayman said:
At the risk of upsetting the natives why on earth someone take the Liverpool job?
Your absolutely right, what pull do we have left these days for an established achiever - no marquee players as such, (note that as we have had at least one marquee player in the team (Torres, Alonso, Masc, Luis) - budget spent (we aint getting another £100m) - Simeone is a pipe dream, the reality is a failed manager looking to rebuild (Klopp) or a young up and coming guy (?) or an old Dino like Thommo who personally I would love to take over right now today and organise the bloody defence.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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IF BR was to be sacked before the end of the season I'd accept Rafa as a caretaker manager - not sure he'd accept that though. At least the one thing he was good at was organisation and defence, two things we badly need now.

ascayman said:
DSLiverpool said:
m3sye said:
DSLiverpool said:
Diego Simeone in (the ONLY choice IMHO)

Agreed - as per my post above
Yep noticed and its the only option long term, we will need a short termer to finish the season though
At the risk of upsetting the natives why on earth someone take the Liverpool job?
I was about to pose the same question. Why exactly would Diego Simeone move to LFC from Madrid?! I can't imagine money alone would be enough to motivate him.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Rafa as a caretaker will never happen he has a full time job smash

Edited by m3sye on Monday 24th November 12:56

type-r

14,092 posts

214 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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m3sye said:
Rafa as a caretaker interim manager will never happen he is a full time job smash
EFA biggrin

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8528...

Edited by type-r on Monday 24th November 13:03

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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So the chances are, we get rid of BR and in return we probably won't get a manager that will do any better. But we probably will get someone who will want a season of transition, sell half our players and bring in a load of players who'll go through FSG's transfer committee, so probably won't be too great either...

Thinking about it, if I was FSG/Ayre, I'd be thinking about forcing some backroom changes on BR rather than sacking him tbh.

DSLiverpool

14,762 posts

203 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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m3sye said:
Rafa as a caretaker will never happen he is a full time job smash
If this is being discussed I will know about it, personally I think its not the right move but our options are limited. I want to see FSG over here telling Bren to get Paco / someone in to help him and replace his entire back room team of tossers

Flip Martian

19,708 posts

191 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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jammy_basturd said:
So the chances are, we get rid of BR and in return we probably won't get a manager that will do any better. But we probably will get someone who will want a season of transition, sell half our players and bring in a load of players who'll go through FSG's transfer committee, so probably won't be too great either...

Thinking about it, if I was FSG/Ayre, I'd be thinking about forcing some backroom changes on BR rather than sacking him tbh.
I'd agree - problem will be that anything like that and the press will seize on it and generate "Rodgers being undermined/Rodgers not in charge" stories... Still, that would still be my option.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I know trophies is not on there but you get the point with Rafa

Edited by m3sye on Monday 24th November 13:10

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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m3sye said:


I know trophies is not on there but you get the point with Rafa

Edited by m3sye on Monday 24th November 13:10
The GA column for Rafa surprised me. I assume that's both managers first 64 games in charge? I would have said that GF column would be flattered by Suarez for BR, but then would Rafa have had Torres by then?

Also you'd have to argue that the league is harder/more competitive now than when Rafa was in charge.

GloverMart

11,831 posts

216 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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If BR does go, here's a suggestion for who takes over.

Quality manager, decent bloke, plays attractive football, well grounded in English football and (I think) would be popular with the fans. Only issue would be is that he's currently manager across the other side of Stanley Park.

Roberto Martinez.

Pommygranite

14,264 posts

217 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Throwing names around reminds me of the summer striker name-throwing - do any of these actually want to manage Liverpool and will FSG pay the huge amount to get rid of Bren?


m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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GloverMart said:
If BR does go, here's a suggestion for who takes over.

Quality manager, decent bloke, plays attractive football, well grounded in English football and (I think) would be popular with the fans. Only issue would be is that he's currently manager across the other side of Stanley Park.

Roberto Martinez.
No thanks, if we do get rid of BR we will go for someone who has won something.

Legend83

9,986 posts

223 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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m3sye said:
No thanks, if we do get rid of BR we will go for someone who has won something.
A game, would be a start.

wink

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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This article starts a bit wafty, but I think it perfectly sums up what we've talked about in here over the last few pages: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/li...

mickk

28,898 posts

243 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Legend83 said:
m3sye said:
No thanks, if we do get rid of BR we will go for someone who has won something.
A game, would be a start.

wink
hehe

type-r

14,092 posts

214 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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jammy_basturd said:
This article starts a bit wafty, but I think it perfectly sums up what we've talked about in here over the last few pages: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/li...
Good article. I especially agree with:

"Rodgers’ vulnerability is many of these issues were raised when Liverpool were winning, and a culture of negligence, possibly even arrogance, has set in across the whole club where nothing has been done to address glaring inadequacies."

We all observed that Mignolet was vunerable last season, we all said that Skrtel was vunerable at holding onto shirts and just vunerable in general, we all said Johnson had quickly deteriorated as a right back, we all said Gerrard was not suited at all to that holding role. Yet, what has he done to change any of that this season? You do not need a transfer committee to make those decisions!

GloverMart

11,831 posts

216 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Legend83 said:
m3sye said:
No thanks, if we do get rid of BR we will go for someone who has won something.
A game, would be a start.

wink
hehe

To be fair though, Sye, his managerial career has been with Swansea, Wigan and Everton so hardly clubs that are going to be trophy collecting every season.

Yet in his time, he won League One with the Swans and the FA Cup with Wigan. He took Everton to a new level last year and will do so again once all the injuries are healed. Okay, he's not pocketed many cups but he plays football the right way, a plus for Liverpool fans, and he comes with little or no baggage.


Edited by GloverMart on Monday 24th November 14:42

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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GloverMart said:
hehe

To be fair though, Sye, his managerial career has been with Swansea, Wigan and Everton so hardly clubs that are going to be trophy collecting every season.

Yet in his time, he won League One with the Swans and the FA Cup with Wigan. He took Everton to a new level last year and will do so again once all the injuries are healed. Okay, he's not pocketed many cups but he plays football the right way, a plus for Liverpool fans, and he comes with little or no baggage.


Edited by GloverMart on Monday 24th November 14:42
Thats the point - I think most liverpool fans would say next manager has to have at least proven they can win things

One thing to note, mentioned in the article is

Dismissing Rodgers would also be expensive, and Liverpool – still awaiting a UEFA verdict on their FFP status – cannot afford another hefty round of ‘termination payments’ in their next accounts.

We got looked at by FFP for these reasons with Kenny and the backroom staff.
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