The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]
Discussion
GloverMart said:
To be fair though, Sye, his managerial career has been with Swansea, Wigan and Everton so hardly clubs that are going to be trophy collecting every season.
Yet in his time, he won League One with the Swans and the FA Cup with Wigan. He took Everton to a new level last year and will do so again once all the injuries are healed. Okay, he's not pocketed many cups but he plays football the right way, a plus for Liverpool fans, and he comes with little or no baggage.
Edited by GloverMart on Monday 24th November 14:42
He is a far superior manager than Rodgers IMO who is punching far above his weight. He failed at Reading and Watford. He can take some credit for the Swans reaching the Premier League but it was mostly down to Scott Sinclair hitting the form of his life (never to be seen again).
While he managed us our style of play was exactly the same as yours is now. Turgid passing from side-to-side, attempting to retain possession for possession's sake. Some thought he bet money on % possession rates we could achieve! Fortunately, just us you had Suarez last season, we had Sinclair at the time who had the ability to change a game at Championship level.
It worked, and I will always thank him for managing us into the Premier League, but I had a feeling this would happen.
P.S. someone mentioned earlier he seemed to be stubborn about not dropping certain players. The inside track from when he was at the Swans was that he was far too close to the players. They were all best buddies and he had his favorites. Sorry to harp on about Scott Sinclair but he would not drop him, regardless of how s
t he was in the Premier League. It's possible he is too emotionally involved with his 'arm-around-the-shoulder' treatment to step back and take harsh, objective decisions (drop Gerrard) for the good of the team.Up until this weekend I thought he would get the season, the voice of the fans does seem to be changing though and we all know where that leads.
Checking out your fixtures you have us and Arsenal a week apart, if we somehow were to find some form and beat you comprehensively I think that will heap further pressure on him
I don't honestly know who you would get next though, there arent any stand out candidates that I can see, maybe if you can hold on a month of so Pochettino will be available?
Checking out your fixtures you have us and Arsenal a week apart, if we somehow were to find some form and beat you comprehensively I think that will heap further pressure on him
I don't honestly know who you would get next though, there arent any stand out candidates that I can see, maybe if you can hold on a month of so Pochettino will be available?
DSLiverpool said:
Simeone is a pipe dream, the reality is a failed manager looking to rebuild (Klopp) or a young up and coming guy (?) or an old Dino like Thommo who personally I would love to take over right now today and organise the bloody defence.
Is there any proof that Thommo knows anything about tactics and coaching? All very well being and great and ex-player and being able to spout the bleeding obvious as a Sky pundit, but does that translate into a great coach? Would rather Carragher - at least he has played the modern gamehttp://talksport.com/football/liverpool-teenager-s...
Great goal by IBE - We shoudl have saved the 20m on Lazar and kept him and given him time at Anfield this year. Offers far more
Great goal by IBE - We shoudl have saved the 20m on Lazar and kept him and given him time at Anfield this year. Offers far more
m3sye said:
http://talksport.com/football/liverpool-teenager-s...
Great goal by IBE - We shoudl have saved the 20m on Lazar and kept him and given him time at Anfield this year. Offers far more
Completely agree. Yet another monumental fGreat goal by IBE - We shoudl have saved the 20m on Lazar and kept him and given him time at Anfield this year. Offers far more
k up from our scouting and transfer teams. I honestly cannot find any footage of Lazar from before he signed us that suggested he'd be a better option than bringing Ibe through the ranks. Unless maybe, BR knew whoever he brought in would probably have limited playing time so wanted Ibe to go out and get a full season of experience.Legend83 said:
He is a far superior manager than Rodgers IMO who is punching far above his weight. He failed at Reading and Watford. He can take some credit for the Swans reaching the Premier League but it was mostly down to Scott Sinclair hitting the form of his life (never to be seen again).
While he managed us our style of play was exactly the same as yours is now. Turgid passing from side-to-side, attempting to retain possession for possession's sake. Some thought he bet money on % possession rates we could achieve! Fortunately, just us you had Suarez last season, we had Sinclair at the time who had the ability to change a game at Championship level.
It worked, and I will always thank him for managing us into the Premier League, but I had a feeling this would happen.
P.S. someone mentioned earlier he seemed to be stubborn about not dropping certain players. The inside track from when he was at the Swans was that he was far too close to the players. They were all best buddies and he had his favorites. Sorry to harp on about Scott Sinclair but he would not drop him, regardless of how st he was in the Premier League. It's possible he is too emotionally involved with his 'arm-around-the-shoulder' treatment to step back and take harsh, objective decisions (drop Gerrard) for the good of the team.
makes a lot of sense now, for Sinclair read SuarezWhile he managed us our style of play was exactly the same as yours is now. Turgid passing from side-to-side, attempting to retain possession for possession's sake. Some thought he bet money on % possession rates we could achieve! Fortunately, just us you had Suarez last season, we had Sinclair at the time who had the ability to change a game at Championship level.
It worked, and I will always thank him for managing us into the Premier League, but I had a feeling this would happen.
P.S. someone mentioned earlier he seemed to be stubborn about not dropping certain players. The inside track from when he was at the Swans was that he was far too close to the players. They were all best buddies and he had his favorites. Sorry to harp on about Scott Sinclair but he would not drop him, regardless of how s
t he was in the Premier League. It's possible he is too emotionally involved with his 'arm-around-the-shoulder' treatment to step back and take harsh, objective decisions (drop Gerrard) for the good of the team.Adam B said:
DSLiverpool said:
Simeone is a pipe dream, the reality is a failed manager looking to rebuild (Klopp) or a young up and coming guy (?) or an old Dino like Thommo who personally I would love to take over right now today and organise the bloody defence.
Is there any proof that Thommo knows anything about tactics and coaching? All very well being and great and ex-player and being able to spout the bleeding obvious as a Sky pundit, but does that translate into a great coach? Would rather Carragher - at least he has played the modern gameFormer defender Phil Thompson was appointed caretaker manager for half a season in 2001/02 and therefore deserves a place in our archive.
Phil Thompson's successful playing career under Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley gave him an appreciation of the bootroom philosophy that was needed when Roy Evans stood down from his joint manager job, allowing Gerard Houllier total control over team affairs.
Since his return Thompson has instilled a discipline lacking on previous seasons and has been a tremendous assistant to the Frenchman.
During the 2001/02 season Thompson proved his abilities even further, standing in as caretaker manager when Houllier suffered heart problems. He steered the club through a tough Champions League campaign and maintained their challenge for the Premiership and won high acclaim from the media.
Get rid, he's a nutter. 
Brendan Rodgers' quotes and proverbs have become legendary, but not always for the right reasons
'It's not just about training players, it's about educating players. You train dogs.'
'I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless.'
'That's the problem with being a manager - it's like trying to build an aircraft while it is flying.'
'It (the documentary Being Liverpool) was something I didn't watch, and thankfully it's over.'
'I think there are three players who will let us down this year - the cause, the fight, everything - and I have written them down already in these three envelopes. Make sure you are not in one of the envelopes.'
'I use a quote with the players, "Per aspera as astra", which is Latin for "Through adversity to the stars".'
On Luis Suarez: 'He's a good guy.' He also said: 'He's so clever.'
'I've always said that you can live without water for many days, but you can't live for a second without hope.'
'I always say a squad is like a good meal. I'm not a great cook, but a good meal takes a wee bit of time. But also, to offer a good meal you need good ingredients.'
'I believe a young man will run through a barbed-wire fence for you. An older player looks for a hole in the fence.'
I've always worked along the statistic, that if you can dominate the game with the ball you have a 79 per cent chance of winning a game of football.'
'When we have the football everybody's a player. The difference with us is that when we have the ball we play with 11 men, other teams play with 10 and a goalkeeper.'
'When we lost at Stoke last season I got home on Boxing Day night and family and guests were all around the house. I went straight upstairs to my room and didn't come out.'
Rodgers said that Tottenham should be challenging for the title considering the money they spent in 2013
'Look at Tottenham. If you spend more than £100million, you expect to be challenging for the league.' (Liverpool spent £113m in the summer of 2014)
'They don't have to sell. (Southampton) have a choice. Maybe Southampton's objectives have changed. They were looking to be a Champions League club, I believe.
'It's the nature of it. The players will want to compete at the highest level they possibly can.'
'Lots of players are really impressed by what we are doing as a club and really excited about coming to Liverpool.'
'The last 18 months we have been on a magic carpet ride of development but we still have a lot of growth to make.
'We obviously lost a world-class player but our challenge now is to progress. It will be slow but steady and that will always be the best way to get to where we want to.'
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Brendan Rodgers' quotes and proverbs have become legendary, but not always for the right reasons
'It's not just about training players, it's about educating players. You train dogs.'
'I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless.'
'That's the problem with being a manager - it's like trying to build an aircraft while it is flying.'
'It (the documentary Being Liverpool) was something I didn't watch, and thankfully it's over.'
'I think there are three players who will let us down this year - the cause, the fight, everything - and I have written them down already in these three envelopes. Make sure you are not in one of the envelopes.'
'I use a quote with the players, "Per aspera as astra", which is Latin for "Through adversity to the stars".'
On Luis Suarez: 'He's a good guy.' He also said: 'He's so clever.'
'I've always said that you can live without water for many days, but you can't live for a second without hope.'
'I always say a squad is like a good meal. I'm not a great cook, but a good meal takes a wee bit of time. But also, to offer a good meal you need good ingredients.'
'I believe a young man will run through a barbed-wire fence for you. An older player looks for a hole in the fence.'
I've always worked along the statistic, that if you can dominate the game with the ball you have a 79 per cent chance of winning a game of football.'
'When we have the football everybody's a player. The difference with us is that when we have the ball we play with 11 men, other teams play with 10 and a goalkeeper.'
'When we lost at Stoke last season I got home on Boxing Day night and family and guests were all around the house. I went straight upstairs to my room and didn't come out.'
Rodgers said that Tottenham should be challenging for the title considering the money they spent in 2013
'Look at Tottenham. If you spend more than £100million, you expect to be challenging for the league.' (Liverpool spent £113m in the summer of 2014)
'They don't have to sell. (Southampton) have a choice. Maybe Southampton's objectives have changed. They were looking to be a Champions League club, I believe.
'It's the nature of it. The players will want to compete at the highest level they possibly can.'
'Lots of players are really impressed by what we are doing as a club and really excited about coming to Liverpool.'
'The last 18 months we have been on a magic carpet ride of development but we still have a lot of growth to make.
'We obviously lost a world-class player but our challenge now is to progress. It will be slow but steady and that will always be the best way to get to where we want to.'
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m3sye said:
Similar to those who say the only candidate for the LFC manager job should be Simeone, I think LFC need to replicate Altetico's business model and strategy. It would certainly be interesting to see how Tomkins analyses Atletico's last few seasons in La Liga.jammy_basturd said:
m3sye said:
http://talksport.com/football/liverpool-teenager-s...
Great goal by IBE - We shoudl have saved the 20m on Lazar and kept him and given him time at Anfield this year. Offers far more
Completely agree. Yet another monumental fGreat goal by IBE - We shoudl have saved the 20m on Lazar and kept him and given him time at Anfield this year. Offers far more
k up from our scouting and transfer teams. I honestly cannot find any footage of Lazar from before he signed us that suggested he'd be a better option than bringing Ibe through the ranks. Unless maybe, BR knew whoever he brought in would probably have limited playing time so wanted Ibe to go out and get a full season of experience.
jammy_basturd said:
Similar to those who say the only candidate for the LFC manager job should be Simeone, I think LFC need to replicate Altetico's business model and strategy. It would certainly be interesting to see how Tomkins analyses Atletico's last few seasons in La Liga.
I wonder how Atletico operate. They have had Torres, Aguero, Falcao and Costa come through their club. Unbelievable how one club has achieved them brilliant players.BlackST said:
jammy_basturd said:
Similar to those who say the only candidate for the LFC manager job should be Simeone, I think LFC need to replicate Altetico's business model and strategy. It would certainly be interesting to see how Tomkins analyses Atletico's last few seasons in La Liga.
I wonder how Atletico operate. They have had Torres, Aguero, Falcao and Costa come through their club. Unbelievable how one club has achieved them brilliant players.jammy_basturd said:
I can only assume they've found a way to operate similar to Southampton. I guess Southampton focus more on developing youth though, whereas Atletico seem to be brilliant at scouting.
Seriously, sign up their scouts! I mean, if I gave somebody £100m+ to spend on players in my company, I would want to make damned sure I had hired the top analysts in the game, have the best scouting system, people who had a proven track record of acquiring the absolute best talent in the industry. Some of the £100m should have been used to build that team of people - not just leave it a few inexperienced business "managers" in form of chief executive, Ian Ayre, Michael Edwards, the head of analysis and Dave Fallows, the head of recruitment and of course our favourite man of the moment, Rodgers himself.If I were running a private equity company or a hedge fund, I wouldn't trust none of the above guys to make an informed decision about where to invest my £100m on a players potential. Seriously, what qualifications or indeed previous experience do any of them have when it comes to finding the next star? The top businesses attract the top analysts - something FSG I hope are re-evaluating right now.
DSLiverpool said:
Adam B said:
Is there any proof that Thommo knows anything about tactics and coaching? All very well being and great and ex-player and being able to spout the bleeding obvious as a Sky pundit, but does that translate into a great coach? Would rather Carragher - at least he has played the modern game
He did an amazing job when Houlier had a heart operation - IIRC didn't lose a game.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff