The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

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Marty Funkhouser

5,426 posts

181 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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For the life of me I can't understand why BR would choose todays match to drop Mignolet?? Jones looks like he'd struggle to get into a Blue Square side on that performance, his dive for the first was comical and his falling over for the third embarrassing.

I can't believe we've made a very ordinary man U side look like genuine title contenders???

RWD cossie wil

4,319 posts

173 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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RedTrident said:
Still not one valid reason why Lucas didn't start. And the taking off of Lallana, BWB is clueless.
Isn't he playing with broken ribs? Might have somthing to do with it, shame as I thought he was having a good game.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I thought Lallana had an ok game, but nothing near brilliant. He hasn't done much but had been ribbed of the ball a couple of times.

The weird substitution for me was taking Moreno off. Thought he was one of our better players, but I'd agree with BR that we needed someone a bit more direct like Markovic on the pitch too.

Lastly I think Jones did ok. I don't think there was much he could have done about any of the goals. Certainly didn't do any worse than Mignolet in recent weeks!!

Pommygranite

14,257 posts

216 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Marty Funkhouser said:
For the life of me I can't understand why BR would choose todays match to drop Mignolet??
Because everyman and his dog has been complaining about Mig and now BR goes and listens and we all go 'but why?'

Same with Balo.

He's not doing well but how's he's partially listening and he gets criticised.

Guy can't win literally and metaphorically.


jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Quite.

I think BR's only mistake today was starting without Lucas protecting the back 3. But then Lucas was st in his last game, so...

Pommygranite

14,257 posts

216 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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As much as BR is doi g badly some of the players are playing terribly and deserve and absolute shoeing.

BR can set up the team and is responsible for tactics and play but in no way is he responsible for a professional player who can't trap, kick or tackle properly. Feel a bit sorry for him that his team has let him down so badly just as I feel sorry for a team that he has let down so badly.

At the end of the day though the buck stops with him.


DuncanM

6,187 posts

279 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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jammy_basturd said:
DuncanM said:
Football is such a results based business.

The simple fact is that we cannot entertain BR playing FIFA manager with a real life PL football team.

I think I'd respect him more if he had stuck to a core 11 and formation, despite the results.

He is playing Football Manager 2015 with a real life PL teamfrown
Really?!

How much flack has he taken so far for playing Johnson, Allen and Balotelli despite performances. You can't just play someone week in, week out regardless of who they're up against or their previous recent performances.
Yes really.

Have a look over the last 10 games, look at both the formations, and players started and you'll see what I mean.

Today was a complete guess/gamble and it didn't pay off. If he thought that Coutinho and Sterling were worthy CF's then we should have seen it before now?

It is a sad thing to watch, but RT has been completely right all along.

If BR turns things around, then I will ENJOY being wrong, but I just don't see it happening frown

DSLiverpool

14,746 posts

202 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Pommygranite said:
As much as BR is doi g badly some of the players are playing terribly and deserve and absolute shoeing.

BR can set up the team and is responsible for tactics and play but in no way is he responsible for a professional player who can't trap, kick or tackle properly. Feel a bit sorry for him that his team has let him down so badly just as I feel sorry for a team that he has let down so badly.

At the end of the day though the buck stops with him.
Bren signed the majority of this crap, if they were good he has managed them into being crap, in my years of following the reds I have never seen a poor team from front to back , poor manager, poor assistant coaches and poor subs - it's all gone rotten even the tactics are tictacs - clueless

Never ever seen lfc in such a mess

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Pommygranite

14,257 posts

216 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Pommygranite said:
As much as BR is doi g badly some of the players are playing terribly and deserve and absolute shoeing.

BR can set up the team and is responsible for tactics and play but in no way is he responsible for a professional player who can't trap, kick or tackle properly. Feel a bit sorry for him that his team has let him down so badly just as I feel sorry for a team that he has let down so badly.

At the end of the day though the buck stops with him.
Bren signed the majority of this crap, if they were good he has managed them into being crap, in my years of following the reds I have never seen a poor team from front to back , poor manager, poor assistant coaches and poor subs - it's all gone rotten even the tactics are tictacs - clueless

Never ever seen lfc in such a mess
Did he sign the majority of the players on the pitch yesterday?




RWD cossie wil

4,319 posts

173 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Pommygranite said:
As much as BR is doi g badly some of the players are playing terribly and deserve and absolute shoeing.

BR can set up the team and is responsible for tactics and play but in no way is he responsible for a professional player who can't trap, kick or tackle properly. Feel a bit sorry for him that his team has let him down so badly just as I feel sorry for a team that he has let down so badly.

At the end of the day though the buck stops with him.
Bren signed the majority of this crap, if they were good he has managed them into being crap, in my years of following the reds I have never seen a poor team from front to back , poor manager, poor assistant coaches and poor subs - it's all gone rotten even the tactics are tictacs - clueless

Never ever seen lfc in such a mess
Hodgeson...

uk66fastback

16,545 posts

271 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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jammy_basturd said:
Lastly I think Jones did ok. I don't think there was much he could have done about any of the goals.
Diving in the right direction for the first one would have helped. Made himself look daft. He *guessed* ... and was shown up. That was NOT the time to do that ... !

Otherwise he did okay - not a lot he could have done for the others but then most of De Gea's saves were just players shooting at him, can't think of one that he actually had to save, bar the Balotelli shot up onto the bar which in truth, if MB has put his instep through it and kept it low instead of side-footing it like a tit, De Gea wouldn't have even seen as the net bulged - (unless he *got in the way of it* ...

The one on one he stuck his leg out maybe .... but should have been a goal - he shouldn't have been given the chance to save it ...

revrange

1,182 posts

184 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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RedTrident said:
Still not one valid reason why Lucas didn't start. And the taking off of Lallana, BWB is clueless.
Lallana is still carrying 2 broken/bruied ribs but as for Lucas not starting....

I am happy still to give BR time, however the worrying thing is improving defence is sorted on the training field, and that should be improving. The new players have been at the club 6 months and should be bedding down, and some understanding developing.

I don't want to hear that still needs sorting, defence has needed sorting for 2 years now.

GloverMart

11,820 posts

215 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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DuncanM said:
Today was a complete guess/gamble and it didn't pay off. (
Quite.

And I'm not sure at all that I'd pick a game against our fiercest rivals who are just finding their form and had won five games in a row to gamble like that.

type-r

14,082 posts

213 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Dog and Duck 3 - 0 Red Lion hehe


Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

155 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I said last year Brendan's tactical decisions were deeply suspect, his man management is known to be lacking but worst of all was his spending in the summer.

It IS time for him to go but then it's a tricky time for him to go!

I don't trust him in January, not one bit, but if we sacked him today who can we realistically get in to replace him?

If we completely write the season off and just start looking at next season then we could do what Utd did with giggsy and give it Carragher to the end of the season, I'm not averse to that, at a bare minimum at least he could try and Instill some sense into the defence.

Long term I don't know where we go, but it's simple, BR is not, and never was, the man to take us forward.

The longer it goes on the worse it will be when it inevitably happens.

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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type-r said:
Dog and Duck 3 - 0 Red Lion hehe

Sun? censored

I am still in shock we did not manage to score at least 2 goals in that game - probably as good as we have played going forward all season - stick DS up and he would have bagged 3

We didn't get this many chances last year -
Simple fact is we didn't take our chances and they did + they had a keep that didn't dive 5 minutes before the player actually shot
Raheem needs to work on his finishing - he should have had a hatrick today - De Gae did well but every shot was practically at him -

Lose to Bournemouth and Arsenal and he is in trouble.

DSLiverpool

14,746 posts

202 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Lincsblokey said:


Long term I don't know where we go, but it's simple, BR is not, and never was, the man to take us forward.

I think he "was" the season before last but he has got carried away with himself, has a self belief overdose and has forgotten what the actual job is.
He should have strengthened his back room at the very least, there is no transfer committee to get a decent number 2/3 but he didn't.
He is unsupportable now as he is not showing an iota of intelligence to get us out of the decline just tinkering and not in a good way.
I would get Thompson in to season end maybe if Carra wants to have a input but once Stevie G goes we are left with a load of limp lettuce - bit like spurs to be honest.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I can't believe some people are actually suggesting we sack a semi-experienced in BR and appoint a complete noob in Carragher! This from some of the same people who were saying that BR shouldn't be allowed to learn on the job whilst with Liverpool.

Don't get me wrong, Carragher has been one of my favourite players since I started supporting LFC, but he choose not to go into a coaching role with the club. He clearly wants to be a pundit more than a coach/manager (at the moment at least anyway).

mr sagman

1,718 posts

236 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Bit of a Unit said:
A quick heads up as Sports Personality of the Year is on and may over run so Match of the Day 2 maybe a little late. Just in case you're setting the timers on you're stolen VHS video recorders.
Are you for real... If you have nothing sensible to say go away please.
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