The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]
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m3sye said:
RedTrident said:
So this transfer committee is a farce where the manager isn't getting who he wants and is then not playing the players that the committee force on him.
Meanwhile there's dressing room unrest and a retired player with the best if intentions destroying the lack of defence intelligence of our manager.
Regardless of my personal opinion, we all know that this situation cannot continue.
Correct 100%Meanwhile there's dressing room unrest and a retired player with the best if intentions destroying the lack of defence intelligence of our manager.
Regardless of my personal opinion, we all know that this situation cannot continue.
jammy_basturd said:
The thing about Simeone is that, whilst he's undoubtedly a great manager, he's so far unobstructed at Atletico. It seems if he wants a player, he gets them, within reason. The club is set up well and just like Southampton, that shows from the top to the bottom.
He wouldn't have the same luxury at LFC. He'd be undermined at each transfer window by Ayre and the dam TC!
I imagine any manager coming in worth his salt will not agree to working with a TC -- worse than director of football, as previous article said, odds are in the favor of being outnumbered He wouldn't have the same luxury at LFC. He'd be undermined at each transfer window by Ayre and the dam TC!
Cie said:
I know you could offer more money. But if he wanted more money, I'm sure he'd push for it after a very strong season last year, I haven't heard anything about him doing that. I'm not saying here that he could get the same money from Atletico as at Liverpool, but that if he wanted more he could at least try to force it out of Altetico. Doesn't seem that kind of manager to me.
And it's not quite that simple is it? In my current job, yes. If I was a football manager in his position on 40k a week at the champions of Spain, no. He's a young manager building a great reputation. By moving to Liverpool he'd be risking it at an early stage... look at AVB now after he swapped Porto for Chelsea. If I was him I'd rather stay at Atletico and continue to build with them for another season or two at the very least. Providing that goes well, his stock is only going one way.
All ifs, buts and maybes by us bothAnd it's not quite that simple is it? In my current job, yes. If I was a football manager in his position on 40k a week at the champions of Spain, no. He's a young manager building a great reputation. By moving to Liverpool he'd be risking it at an early stage... look at AVB now after he swapped Porto for Chelsea. If I was him I'd rather stay at Atletico and continue to build with them for another season or two at the very least. Providing that goes well, his stock is only going one way.
We would never know unless we put an offer him (if they sack BR goes)
Personally I think he would go - you dont - but that just our opinion - we dont know anything about DS in reality.
In theory, a transfer committee should work well and should be clearly differentiated from a director of football role. In theory, having a number of football experts (yes football experts, not boardroom CEO wannabe's) who have monitored the leagues and players, should have a good idea of the best players and even potential stars of the future. At Liverpool the transfer committee is made up of a bunch of inexperienced footballing men (and I include Rodgers in that).
For me, it requires a root and branch change at Liverpool, starting with Ayre at the top.
For me, it requires a root and branch change at Liverpool, starting with Ayre at the top.
type-r said:
In theory, a transfer committee should work well and should be clearly differentiated from a director of football role. In theory, having a number of football experts (yes football experts, not boardroom CEO wannabe's) who have monitored the leagues and players, should have a good idea of the best players and even potential stars of the future. At Liverpool the transfer committee is made up of a bunch of inexperienced footballing men (and I include Rodgers in that).
For me, it requires a root and branch change at Liverpool, starting with Ayre at the top.
Yep totally For me, it requires a root and branch change at Liverpool, starting with Ayre at the top.
The current regime might as-well employ the most successful championship manager player to sign new players - he knowledge will be as great as there is purely stats driven
m3sye said:
CIE - lets say he is on 50k a week there and we say you can have 100k a week and 50m to spend + what you get rid of - you really think he would turn that down ? a double your money offer
But wouldn't that mean like working on Mersyside ?At least he'd get to come to London a few times in a season.
Simeone doesn't seem like the kind of chap that would put up with all the on & off pitch nonsense that seems to go with Liverpool.
Reports are circling that Liverpool have already tied up a £3 million deal to bring Mexican World Cup hero Guillermo Ochoa to Anfield. The goalkeeper was one of the stars of the summer with a string of impressive performances for his country in Brazil.
His status as a free agent made him an interesting proposition for a number of clubs, however it was Malaga who signed him up to replace Man City bound Willy Caballero. The only problem has been that since then, the Mexican has played second fiddle to Carlos Kameni in the south of Spain to such an extent that he hasn’t actually played a La Liga game.
However, if the substantial number of reports are to be believed, Brendan Rodgers has earmarked Ochoa as the man to solve Liverpool’s goalkeeping crisis.
Rumours of the move began circling on Sunday when Ochoa followed Liverpool’s Twitter account after the 3-0 defeat to Man Utd.
His status as a free agent made him an interesting proposition for a number of clubs, however it was Malaga who signed him up to replace Man City bound Willy Caballero. The only problem has been that since then, the Mexican has played second fiddle to Carlos Kameni in the south of Spain to such an extent that he hasn’t actually played a La Liga game.
However, if the substantial number of reports are to be believed, Brendan Rodgers has earmarked Ochoa as the man to solve Liverpool’s goalkeeping crisis.
Rumours of the move began circling on Sunday when Ochoa followed Liverpool’s Twitter account after the 3-0 defeat to Man Utd.
Black can man said:
But wouldn't that mean like working on Mersyside ?
At least he'd get to come to London a few times in a season.
Simeone doesn't seem like the kind of chap that would put up with all the on & off pitch nonsense that seems to go with Liverpool.
See my other post to Jammy At least he'd get to come to London a few times in a season.
Simeone doesn't seem like the kind of chap that would put up with all the on & off pitch nonsense that seems to go with Liverpool.
m3sye said:
I imagine any manager coming in worth his salt will not agree to working with a TC -- worse than director of football, as previous article said, odds are in the favor of being outnumbered
And Rafa would be the last person in the world who'd consider working at Liverpool if the structure behind the scenes really is as painted in the last few pages! That would be déjà vu all over again.Kaj91 said:
Reports are circling that Liverpool have already tied up a £3 million deal to bring Mexican World Cup hero Guillermo Ochoa to Anfield. The goalkeeper was one of the stars of the summer with a string of impressive performances for his country in Brazil.
His status as a free agent made him an interesting proposition for a number of clubs, however it was Malaga who signed him up to replace Man City bound Willy Caballero. The only problem has been that since then, the Mexican has played second fiddle to Carlos Kameni in the south of Spain to such an extent that he hasn’t actually played a La Liga game.
However, if the substantial number of reports are to be believed, Brendan Rodgers has earmarked Ochoa as the man to solve Liverpool’s goalkeeping crisis.
Rumours of the move began circling on Sunday when Ochoa followed Liverpool’s Twitter account after the 3-0 defeat to Man Utd.
Wow. How completely underwhelming. Malaga have done well though ccommanding 3m from him when they get him free and he hasn't been good enough to play.His status as a free agent made him an interesting proposition for a number of clubs, however it was Malaga who signed him up to replace Man City bound Willy Caballero. The only problem has been that since then, the Mexican has played second fiddle to Carlos Kameni in the south of Spain to such an extent that he hasn’t actually played a La Liga game.
However, if the substantial number of reports are to be believed, Brendan Rodgers has earmarked Ochoa as the man to solve Liverpool’s goalkeeping crisis.
Rumours of the move began circling on Sunday when Ochoa followed Liverpool’s Twitter account after the 3-0 defeat to Man Utd.
Did the TC throw a dart into a board of pictures of keepers?
curlie467 said:
Wow. How completely underwhelming. Malaga have done well though ccommanding 3m from him when they get him free and he hasn't been good enough to play.
Did the TC throw a dart into a board of pictures of keepers?
Do we even know we are looking at him or are we looking at every player that follows liverpools twitter account??? Did the TC throw a dart into a board of pictures of keepers?
m3sye said:
curlie467 said:
Wow. How completely underwhelming. Malaga have done well though ccommanding 3m from him when they get him free and he hasn't been good enough to play.
Did the TC throw a dart into a board of pictures of keepers?
Do we even know we are looking at him or are we looking at every player that follows liverpools twitter account??? Did the TC throw a dart into a board of pictures of keepers?
With that review taking place I would think it unlikely that they have done any deals as of yet.
Black can man said:
BCM come on man, its a twitter page that follows news sources then posts to get followersNo one has any information on this bar him following liverpools twitter page - means nothing -
Lets not start the jan transfer merry go round in December, its bad enough in Jan
m3sye said:
Black can man said:
BCM come on man, its a twitter page that follows news sources then posts to get followersNo one has any information on this bar him following liverpools twitter page - means nothing -
Lets not start the jan transfer merry go round in December, its bad enough in Jan
Scrolling down, there is some amusing stuff on there & a few gifs that that young scallywag CIE might like.
m3sye said:
I imagine any manager coming in worth his salt will not agree to working with a TC -- worse than director of football, as previous article said, odds are in the favor of being outnumbered
always wondered if that is why we didn't get Roberto Martinez, who seemed to ahead of BR in the wish list
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