The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

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GloverMart

11,773 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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I took the time and trouble to watch his post match interview (after being burnt earlier hehe ) and he made me cringe again.

On about the second goal, he said it wasn't about "organisation and set-ups", it was on about decision making. So is he saying he doesn't coach the defence and lets THEM make the decision as to whether they challenge or not?

He's a weird interviewee.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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I thought saying that Lucas had a good game was also positive.

They did not carve us up once. The 2 goals was our usual poor defending. Lucas makes it harder for the opposition to walk through our midfield. All my opinion of course.

Flip Martian

19,512 posts

189 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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DuncanM said:
I genuinely believe we'll get top 6 very least, I get what you're saying about defence and transfers but performance wise that was on a different planet to some of the rubbish we have seen this season.
To get top 6 we need to score more and concede less. Win more games. I think the last 3 games with the new formation have had us playing better...but with no-one who can score reliably, and the possibility of leaking goals so alarmingly, no I'm not that positive. We need Sturridge back and firing, or someone to rely on to open up the oppo and score some goals. And we need our defensive coaching to change (apparently). Without that, we won't be top 6. Not if we keep dropping points like we have been.

Flip Martian

19,512 posts

189 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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GloverMart said:
I took the time and trouble to watch his post match interview (after being burnt earlier hehe ) and he made me cringe again.

On about the second goal, he said it wasn't about "organisation and set-ups", it was on about decision making. So is he saying he doesn't coach the defence and lets THEM make the decision as to whether they challenge or not?

He's a weird interviewee.
I actually switched off before the interview today. I just knew whatever he said would make my blood boil.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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desolate said:
RedTrident said:
desolate said:
RedTrident said:
BWB is just making it up as he's going along and his inability to sort the defence out will cost him his job.
When do you think this will happen now then?
At the latest, end of the season. At the earliest, before the January window.

If he's still here in January then what he gets in terms of funds will be very telling.
So he's definitely gone by the end of the season?
Ok. Let's turn this around. Where will we have to have finished for you to think he'll be gone?

The targets at the beginning of the season were very clear. He's failed the first one and got knocked out if the group stage in the Champions League that included a shameful line up away to Madrid. I don't think we'll get top 4 and the owners have already made their opinion on domestic cup progress clear with Dalglish.

Add that his signings on the whole are still misfiring and everyone can see that he's got any idea whatsoever of how to set up a defence.

If things stay like this then I'm not sure how he'd stay in his job.

The first sign of whether the owners keep faith with him is if they back him in January, that's if he gets that far. All in my opinion of course.



epom

11,400 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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As I've been saying all along. Lucas has got to play in this team.

DuncanM

6,109 posts

278 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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Flip Martian said:
DuncanM said:
I genuinely believe we'll get top 6 very least, I get what you're saying about defence and transfers but performance wise that was on a different planet to some of the rubbish we have seen this season.
To get top 6 we need to score more and concede less. Win more games. I think the last 3 games with the new formation have had us playing better...but with no-one who can score reliably, and the possibility of leaking goals so alarmingly, no I'm not that positive. We need Sturridge back and firing, or someone to rely on to open up the oppo and score some goals. And we need our defensive coaching to change (apparently). Without that, we won't be top 6. Not if we keep dropping points like we have been.
Can't disagree with that, I really enjoyed the performance and passion (yeah yeah, Brendan-tastic) shown by the players today, but you're absolutely right we need a goal scorer on the pitch, and improved defending.

Regarding Borini, I really felt for him when he got sent off frown sure he deserved it, but I can't help but feel that he is a talented young player, desperate to impress and get into the team.

I want him to get more game time before we write him off, Sunderland fans blooming love/loved him, must be for some reasons and I do see glimpses...

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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DuncanM said:
Lincsblokey said:
We wont get top 6, we leak too many goals and I dont think we will see Sturridge back for at least another 2-3 months.

Things that, with a credible transfer policy, we could sort.

But with TC's & moneyball ste we dont have that.
I genuinely believe we'll get top 6 very least, I get what you're saying about defence and transfers but performance wise that was on a different planet to some of the rubbish we have seen this season.
Top 4 according to BWB

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30570457

DuncanM

6,109 posts

278 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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anonymous said:
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Might seem crazy now but I always say wait until end of Jan and I stick by that.

ManU have been dreadful and ye have won a lot of points, that run will end at some point surely?

Two teams are in a different league this year, the rest are fair game imo and Xmas/Jan alway rocks the table.



anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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RedTrident said:
Ok. Let's turn this around. Where will we have to have finished for you to think he'll be gone?

The targets at the beginning of the season were very clear. He's failed the first one and got knocked out if the group stage in the Champions League that included a shameful line up away to Madrid. I don't think we'll get top 4 and the owners have already made their opinion on domestic cup progress clear with Dalglish.

Add that his signings on the whole are still misfiring and everyone can see that he's got any idea whatsoever of how to set up a defence.

If things stay like this then I'm not sure how he'd stay in his job.

The first sign of whether the owners keep faith with him is if they back him in January, that's if he gets that far. All in my opinion of course.
Firstly, I cant see the point of sacking him mid season, unless we fancy Tony Pulis.

The season's been shocking so far, no doubt.

If FSG are trying to build a club that has a 'system' then it won't really matter - they won't go for a 'top name' manager as they will insist on to much control of transfer policy.

Despite misgivings I'd give him to the end of the season and see where we are.

jammy_basturd

29,776 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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RedTrident said:
The targets at the beginning of the season were very clear.
Clear? By whom?

RedTrident said:
The first sign of whether the owners keep faith with him is if they back him in January, that's if he gets that far. All in my opinion of course.
Back him in January? They don't back him, that's been quite clear these past few months - they back the TC.

anonymous said:
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Imagine if he'd come out and said we don't stand a chance in hell of getting top four. Imagine the slating he'd get in here then. "Out of options" and "throwing in the towel" as some are so fond of saying.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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Give over Jammy, the targets can be found if you want to bother looking. The top 4 is a given and there was a clear target to get out of the group stages.

Next 3 games over Xmas. I'd want 9 points but even BWBs fans would want 7 points I think. I think we'll get 4 points personally and the season will just limp along.

Burnley (a)
Swansea (h)
Leicester (h)

jammy_basturd

29,776 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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RedTrident said:
Give over Jammy, the targets can be found if you want to bother looking. The top 4 is a given and there was a clear target to get out of the group stages.
Couldn't find anything that suggests what the targets are set by FSG or those higher up in LFC.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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Suit yourself.

ferrisbueller

29,262 posts

226 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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The name of the club's Manager is Brendan Rodgers.

How about there being some respect for the man. Current performance levels may not be what we all want but he is still Manager of the club and should be respected as such.

Pommygranite

14,229 posts

215 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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ferrisbueller said:
The name of the club's Manager is Brendan Rodgers.

How about there being some respect for the man. Current performance levels may not be what we all want but he is still Manager of the club and should be respected as such.
Well Said.

uk66fastback

16,457 posts

270 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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He has to get to the end of the season - that will be a true measure of *progress* ... compared to last year.

God knows what'll happen though ... is it really 2-3 months until Sturridge will be fit again - so basically the whole season missed? In that case you're doing pretty well ... especially with that defence - which IS shocking for the most part.

If you don't concede any you've only got to score ONE with no strikers to win the game - pretty simple. Get the defence sorted (always Maureen's first priority) and then develop from there. Comedy defending at times, Skytel is too much of a liability in defence (leaving out his *heroics* of today) and Sako just worries me when in possession. Where was GJ? - injured?

Borini is his own worst enemy - Italian temperament did for him - gotta reign that in - bad management they call it. BR should be in these players ears as to what is expected on the discipline side, it's just poor.

Edited by uk66fastback on Monday 22 December 01:13

boobles

15,241 posts

214 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Can somebody please tell me what the hell they are saying about Gerrard when they sing at what appears to be every football ground in the country?

type-r

13,921 posts

212 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Morning. So who genuinely thinks we will make top 4? That is quite some statement from the manager. If anything, it adds to the pressure of the team as a whole.

Pommygranite

14,229 posts

215 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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uk66fastback said:
Borini is his own worst enemy - Italian temperament did for him - gotta reign that in - bad management they call it. BR should be in these players ears as to what is expected on the discipline side, it's just poor.

Edited by uk66fastback on Monday 22 December 01:13
Whilst anything that goes wrong seems to be levelled at brendan that's not a fair statement. Its really got nothing to do with bad management and all to do with stupid player behaviour.

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