The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

[ExV8]

Is it not already summer?

4th place seems to be down to how bad we and/or Utd are in the next few games. Personally 5th sums up where we deserve to be.

[RedTrident]

Flip Martian said:

RT, please please please park this conversation until the Summer.

Then I also suggest others do likewise. Some posters can't ask me a question and not expect me to reply or claim I'm refusing or ignoring answering a question. That's just silly and that's exactly what has been taking place.

[RedTrident]

desolate said:

RedTrident said:

Do you even understand what a forum is? I was asked a question, I replied. You're behaving like a stalker.

You win. I give up.
You are a complete knob.

Yep. That's about your level I think.

[Flip Martian]

RedTrident said:

Then I also suggest others do likewise. Some posters can't ask me a question and not expect me to reply or claim I'm refusing or ignoring answering a question. That's just silly and that's exactly what has been taking place.

Totally agree...

[ExV8]

Can we wait until RT has answered the question on Standard Chartered demanding changes question. We all know it never happened and makes him a fraud but humour me..........if no links perhaps the honest response is to stop posting all the other drivel......

[mr sagman]

[7lucky7]

Must've been before I joined. Is he saying that SC demanded a change of manager? Or is he saying SC were demanding changes to team line ups, effectively picking the team?

If the latter, thats plainly utter nonsense.

[RedTrident]

ExV8 said:

Can we wait until RT has answered the question on Standard Chartered demanding changes question. We all know it never happened and makes him a fraud but humour me..........if no links perhaps the honest response is to stop posting all the other drivel......

How do you know it never happened? I think we'll know for sure once he's gone and everything comes out. But you bringing this up now is for no other reason than to bait me. Really poor form after my offer. And for everyone else on this thread, here again is an example. For some on here its clearly personal.

Meanwhile, I'm quite comfortable on calling it as I see it and in the few, very few , cases where I'm wrong, I'll hold my hands up. Henderson was one of them. My assessment of Dalglish and the current manager meanwhile is accurate.

[7lucky7]

Tried a little search but to no avail. I'd love a few links to this please RT.

[DSLiverpool]

RedTrident said:

My assessment of Dalglish and the current manager meanwhile is accurate.

I think Brendan has the makings of a good manager in another 2 jobs time, this came too soon for him. Football aside his character traits jar.

He hasnt managed to curtail his stupid comments when silence is a better option or a Jose none comment is called for (despite wide spread ridicule he must be aware of).

He makes Wenger seem pessimistic with wildly misplaced optimism

He should have bought in a better back up team unless FSG have a hiring committee that Marsh and Pascoe were the dream choice of.

He appears to me like a dad fulfilling his playing dream through his son, too matey with the players or totally the opposite in a sulky way.

I think he should go to West Ham / Soton etc and perfect the raw talent that is undoubtedly present but I dont want him doing it at LFC, he is a few years off at least.

[DaveR]

RedTrident said:

I think we'll know for sure once he's gone and everything comes out. But you bringing this up now is for no other reason than to bait me.

We'll know for sure that SC insisted on something happening a year ago if it that thing happens 12 months later?

And now you are the one being baited?!?

[RedTrident]

So you want to talk about something from well over a season ago because you want to distract away from my assessment of Bodge being perhaps accurate? It'll all come out in the wash. You can't have it both ways.

[Pommygranite]

God this is boring.

Can we move on please.

[7lucky7]

RedTrident said:

So you want to talk about something from well over a season ago because you want to distract away from my assessment of Bodge being perhaps accurate? It'll all come out in the wash. You can't have it both ways.

I'd love to know more about this. Can you please elaborate. Or post some links for it.

Thanks in advance.

[V8FGO]

[quote=7lucky7]

I'd love to know more about this. Can you please elaborate. Or post some links for it.

Thanks in advance.
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I think it was around Christmas in his first season. RT claimed it was going to break in the media
that Rodgers had been hauled in for a meeting with SC who were unhappy etc, etc. He was told this by an
"insider" mate of his.

Story never came out in the press, it may or may not have happened.

[m3sye]

Good Tompkins article

http://tomkinstimes.com/2015/05/listen-up-fkwits...

[anonymous-user]

At the end of the day our top scorer has 7 goals. We havent had a proper striker all season (Balotelli has been awful, Lambert is pointless, Borini......) If we had Sturridge fit and had a better backup then we would have been top 4 this year.

Sure its annoying to have lost the Semi finals to Chelsea & Villa but its not all doom & gloom, unfortunately we over achieved last season which has meant unless we had won the league this year that what ever we did this season was always going to be a disappointment.

[Eddw86]

DSLiverpool said:

I think Brendan has the makings of a good manager in another 2 jobs time, this came too soon for him. Football aside his character traits jar.

He hasnt managed to curtail his stupid comments when silence is a better option or a Jose none comment is called for (despite wide spread ridicule he must be aware of).

He makes Wenger seem pessimistic with wildly misplaced optimism

He should have bought in a better back up team unless FSG have a hiring committee that Marsh and Pascoe were the dream choice of.

He appears to me like a dad fulfilling his playing dream through his son, too matey with the players or totally the opposite in a sulky way.

I think he should go to West Ham / Soton etc and perfect the raw talent that is undoubtedly present but I dont want him doing it at LFC, he is a few years off at least.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts, I think he's been a bit star struck at times, the job was too much too soon but he has the makings in there, I'm still to be convinced of his tactical nous and ability to set up a team for a specific opponent and I've never really warmed to him, which matters not if he wins us things.

For what it's worth, he'll be at Liverpool next year, I'm not sure if Im in agreement with that or against it. Strange feeling to be honest.

[NRS]

Eddw86 said:

This pretty much sums up my thoughts, I think he's been a bit star struck at times, the job was too much too soon but he has the makings in there, I'm still to be convinced of his tactical nous and ability to set up a team for a specific opponent and I've never really warmed to him, which matters not if he wins us things.

For what it's worth, he'll be at Liverpool next year, I'm not sure if Im in agreement with that or against it. Strange feeling to be honest.

I think quite a lot of fans feel that. If he gets a good start to next season they'll be behind him. If it's a really poor start the majority of fans will turn and want him out.

[type-r]

NRS said:

Eddw86 said:

This pretty much sums up my thoughts, I think he's been a bit star struck at times, the job was too much too soon but he has the makings in there, I'm still to be convinced of his tactical nous and ability to set up a team for a specific opponent and I've never really warmed to him, which matters not if he wins us things.

For what it's worth, he'll be at Liverpool next year, I'm not sure if Im in agreement with that or against it. Strange feeling to be honest.

I think quite a lot of fans feel that. If he gets a good start to next season they'll be behind him. If it's a really poor start the majority of fans will turn and want him out.

I completely agree as well. Rodgers, if he does stay on next season, has to shake things up. Not just so-called "marque signings" that he mentioned a few days ago but a long hard look at the whole set-up, starting with a new backroom team. Pascoe et al simply don't cut it. Where exactly have the defence and the midfield truly improved. Sure Couthinho has improved, has started scoring the volume of goals I would expect of a decent midfielder but I suspect that is largely down to himself, staying behind and putting in extra shooting practice. What do Pascoe and friends actually do and what value-add do they actually bring? We have being crying out for a world-class defensive coach - a guy like Hyppia would surely move the defence forwards in terms of coaching. I am not saying Hyppia is the answer to our problems - just that a shake-up is required and the right people are brought on board.

Rodgers does seem to play the game in the right spirit. At times, it can beautiful to watch a Rodger's Liverpool with the free-flowing, high energy pressing and passing. At other times, the team can look dour and lifeless. Suarez no doubt lifted the team last season by his sheer desire and will to win. That was infectious and desperately missing this season. We need a similar leader in the middle of the park, driving the youngsters on and dictating play. Rodgers needs to examine some of the tactical decisions he made this season, some of the teams he chose (ok he had limited options up front but continuing playing Sterling?!). Thankfully the Gerrard conundrum is one he won't have to contend with next season, which should make his and our lives (sadly) easier.

If FSG do give him another season and he does make a couple of marquee signings, not least in his backroom then I am would be willing to give Rodgers the benefit of the doubt. He like most of the Liverpool team, are potential. Now is the time to start realising some of it.