The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

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London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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I always quite admired the way Utd always had a core of British talent. Some of it was brought through, some of it was bought, but at least it was there.

In only a few short years it's pretty much gone.

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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London424 said:
I always quite admired the way Utd always had a core of British talent. Some of it was brought through, some of it was bought, but at least it was there.

In only a few short years it's pretty much gone.
There are 13 English players named in the current squad.

In the squad that won the treble there were 17 english players.

So down but not gone.

Challo

10,129 posts

155 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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London424 said:
I always quite admired the way Utd always had a core of British talent. Some of it was brought through, some of it was bought, but at least it was there.

In only a few short years it's pretty much gone.
The game has changed and the quality of English players has diminished alot. Also the price of English players has shot up and very overpriced.

Look at Sterling....had a couple of ok seasons at Liverpool suddenly he is worth £50m? Becomes cheaper to look at proven foreign players.

snorky782

1,115 posts

99 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Challo said:
London424 said:
I always quite admired the way Utd always had a core of British talent. Some of it was brought through, some of it was bought, but at least it was there.

In only a few short years it's pretty much gone.
The game has changed and the quality of English players has diminished alot. Also the price of English players has shot up and very overpriced.

Look at Sterling....had a couple of ok seasons at Liverpool suddenly he is worth £50m? Becomes cheaper to look at proven foreign players.
Ditto Scottish, Irish and Welsh bar the odd notable exception. A decent international performance from those sides doesn't mean that any player is worth a place at the top table though.


London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Zoon said:
London424 said:
I always quite admired the way Utd always had a core of British talent. Some of it was brought through, some of it was bought, but at least it was there.

In only a few short years it's pretty much gone.
There are 13 English players named in the current squad.

In the squad that won the treble there were 17 english players.

So down but not gone.
I meant starting 11. Fergie always seemed to have 4-6 Brits.

Next season it'll be what, 2?

There will always be Brits in squads because of the home player rule thing.

I think there are a few clubs that have shown that British talent is there and can be developed and brought through, but as some have said you pay a premium (see home player rule).

Then again you're about to spend 100m on a player. Could get quite a few decent Brits in for that!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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London424 said:


Then again you're about to spend 100m on a player. Could get quite a few decent Brits in for that!
Sterling and Stones at £50m a pop and do they meet the criteria of decent?

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
Barkeley
Alli
Dier
Drinkwater
Ramsey

Would think you'd get any two of those for <100m.

GTO-3R

7,479 posts

213 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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London424 said:
Barkeley
Alli
Dier
Drinkwater
Ramsey

Would think you'd get any two of those for <100m.
Yes but none are as good as Pogba and have no where near the market-ability of him either. Like it or not, it's a big part of football these days! United will make a fortune off him smile

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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London424 said:
Barkeley
Alli
Dier
Drinkwater
Ramsey

Would think you'd get any two of those for <100m.
And none of them is very good.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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ORD said:
London424 said:
Barkeley
Alli
Dier
Drinkwater
Ramsey

Would think you'd get any two of those for <100m.
And none of them is very good.
Of course not...how silly of me.

Zoon

6,701 posts

121 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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London424 said:
I meant starting 11. Fergie always seemed to have 4-6 Brits.

Next season it'll be what, 2?
Depends.

Shaw, Rooney, Rashford, Smalling, possibly Carrick.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Zoon said:
London424 said:
I meant starting 11. Fergie always seemed to have 4-6 Brits.

Next season it'll be what, 2?
Depends.

Shaw, Rooney, Rashford, Smalling, possibly Carrick.
Forgot about Shaw!

Rashford is bench material now unfortunately.

What do you guys assume is the starting 11, assuming Pogba comes in?

I was thinking something like

DDG

Darmian - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw

Pogba - Schniederling/Carrick??

Mkhi - Rooney - Martial

Zlatan

Edited by London424 on Friday 29th July 15:05

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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London424 said:
DDG

Darmian - Smalling - Bailly - Shaw

Pogba - Schniederling/Carrick??

Mkhi - Rooney - Martial

Zlatan
Would be my assumption yeah

GTO-3R

7,479 posts

213 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Not sure how true but aparently we've made 76 million off Zlatans shirt sales alone already...

If true, that is staggering!

MiniMan64

16,923 posts

190 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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GTO-3R said:
Not sure how true but aparently we've made 76 million off Zlatans shirt sales alone already...

If true, that is staggering!
Source?

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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GTO-3R said:
Not sure how true but aparently we've made 76 million off Zlatans shirt sales alone already...

If true, that is staggering!
Very, seen that myself

His wages are certainly paid for ..although always been curious about these figures, new kit out so surely they were gonna buy one anyway only they have chosen ibra's name maybe ahead of someone elses??

Thankyou4calling

10,602 posts

173 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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m3sye said:
Very, seen that myself

His wages are certainly paid for ..although always been curious about these figures, new kit out so surely they were gonna buy one anyway only they have chosen ibra's name maybe ahead of someone elses??
That is utter nonsense.

These are the TOTAL shirt sales by club in 2015 WORLDWIDE.

Bear in mind most of these will be via third party retailers (Sports Direct, JD sports etc) A team will get LESS than £10 per shirt. The top selling United shirt last year was Rooneys. 13% of sales. that is less than 400,000 shirts or £4 million income (not profit)

So unless more than 7.5 million Zlatan shirts have sold (they haven't) the figure of £76 million is not true.

FC Barcelona 3,637,000
Bayern Munich 3,312,000
Chelsea 3,102,000
Manchester United 2,977,000
Real Madrid 2,866,000
PSG 2,212,000
Arsenal 2,055,000
Atletico Madrid 1,977,000
Juventus 1,678,000
AC Milan 1,287,000


Edited by Thankyou4calling on Friday 29th July 15:55

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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In here is how kit deals typically work.

http://thesetpieces.com/features/transfer-window-m...

Merc 450

957 posts

99 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Ddg
Damian smalling Baillie. Shaw
Miki pogba schneiderlin martial
Rooney
Zlatan/rashford 60/30 minutes each

so called

9,086 posts

209 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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I'm in the US and no MUTV so just on line and it says Ibra goal after 3 minutes smile


Edited by so called on Saturday 30th July 18:49

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