The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

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ORD

18,086 posts

126 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Did a Liverpool fan just mock Utd's performance in the transfer market?

Until very recently, Liverpool had spent about as much as Utd over recent years and were still dogst. Probably in the bottom 2 or 3 in the Prem in terms of making decent signings.

I don't understand the reference to Andy Carroll, though, as he was bought for Monopoly money, wasn't he? For a joke, right? No? Those were actual pounds?! Good Lord!

GTO-3R

7,458 posts

212 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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hornetrider said:
Lost fifteen quid on a horse at the weekend, gutted. Still, could have been worse. Could have lost fifteen mill on a donkey.




Try the veal!
Coming from a Liverpool fan rofl

Cie

18,752 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Doesn't even matter, 15 mil was well worth the risk considering what a player Di Maria was (is).

Just hornet being a penis. Nothing to see here. biggrin

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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anonymous said:
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He's your Andy Carrol. You not peeved at a 15m loss in 12 months? Those prawn sandwiches aren't getting any cheaper...

RoadRunner220

940 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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ORD said:
Did a Liverpool fan just mock Utd's performance in the transfer market?

Until very recently, Liverpool had spent about as much as Utd over recent years and were still dogst. Probably in the bottom 2 or 3 in the Prem in terms of making decent signings.

I don't understand the reference to Andy Carroll, though, as he was bought for Monopoly money, wasn't he? For a joke, right? No? Those were actual pounds?! Good Lord!
I can't believe I'm about to say this, but, in Liverpool's defence (my god it felt dirty saying that), I understand that the fee they agreed to pay for Carroll was a percentage of whatever they got for selling Torres to Chelsea, and because they absolutely shafted Abramovich on that deal it meant they massively overpaid for Carroll.

Anyhow, a completely agree that the overwhelming majority of Liverpool's signings over the years have been average at best.

Glenred

8,461 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Cie said:
Doesn't even matter, 15 mil was well worth the risk considering what a player Di Maria was (is).

Just hornet being a penis. Nothing to see here. biggrin
How much did you also lose on Falcao? 8m? Expensive, but paid off in the end I guess, as you grabbed 4th spot.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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hornetrider said:
He's your Andy Carrol. You not peeved at a 15m loss in 12 months? Those prawn sandwiches aren't getting any cheaper...
In short no. We didn't spunk money on a st player, he bottled it and chose the easy out. Besides I'm pretty certain the fee to Real would have had several clauses and bonuses attached so who's to say what amount we have lost, but if it is 15m I'd rather lose that than have a player who doesn't want to wear the shirt.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Well I think you did spunk money on a st player. And you've offloaded him for a 15 bar loss. But hey ho it's all good bantz.

Agree with you re: rather having someone who wants to wear the shirt and puts the effort in.

ORD

18,086 posts

126 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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anonymous said:
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£15m is nothing in the Prem. It wouldn't get you a striker that would stand out in a Sunday league match. I have no problem at all with a strategy of taking expensive punts at potentially brilliant players. As I said the other day, I think the top players are good value relative to players that go for £10-30m, plenty of whom are very average!

Cie

18,752 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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lols hornet, you think Di Maria is st? He didn't have the best of seasons but calm down.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Oooh look you got 3 entries in the top ten cool

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-...

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Cie said:
lols hornet, you think Di Maria is st? He didn't have the best of seasons but calm down.
It's natural for HR to have an affinity with AdM, he bottles it when the going gets tough too

ORD

18,086 posts

126 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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hornetrider said:
Oooh look you got 3 entries in the top ten cool

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-...
The Daily Mail writes about football now? I thought it was just for celeb tittle-tattle and lazy racism.

Di Maria wasn't really bad at all. He just wanted out. I expect Utd aren't far off breaking even on him given how much of the fee is likely to have been deferred and conditional.

Having Berbatov and Tevez on the list shows that it is utterly stupid. Players bought in their prime and sold on when they reached the end of their top flight years. Hardly flops, expensive or otherwise!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Tevez was added on Citeh's behalf. Your third was Veron.

ORD

18,086 posts

126 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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hornetrider said:
Tevez was added on Citeh's behalf. Your third was Veron.
I know. Veron is nothing like as bad a call as Tevez and Berba. He was a mixed bag (at best) so maybe deserves to be on the list. £28m was a lot of money back then.

A few others look a bit suspect, too. Carroll is not one of them! Probably the worst big buy ever in the Prem. Torres was fairly poor but still playable; Carroll was a stone over weight, hungover, lazy and terrible. I remember literally laughing out loud when Liverpool spent £35m on him. I think it was about that time that I heard him say in an interview that he wasn't going to stop 'Enjoying his lager' just because he was a big player now.

I wouldn't have had him on a free.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

243 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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ORD said:
The Daily Mail writes about football now? I thought it was just for celeb tittle-tattle and lazy racism.

Di Maria wasn't really bad at all. He just wanted out. I expect Utd aren't far off breaking even on him given how much of the fee is likely to have been deferred and conditional.

Having Berbatov and Tevez on the list shows that it is utterly stupid. Players bought in their prime and sold on when they reached the end of their top flight years. Hardly flops, expensive or otherwise!
Don't forget the exchange rate on DM. Effectively bought for £50m at today's rate, so a lot of the loss is a forex loss.

Shame he's going as he is a game changer, but his heart wasn't in it ever since the burglary and sending off against the Arse.

Wombat3

11,968 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Alpinestars said:
ORD said:
The Daily Mail writes about football now? I thought it was just for celeb tittle-tattle and lazy racism.

Di Maria wasn't really bad at all. He just wanted out. I expect Utd aren't far off breaking even on him given how much of the fee is likely to have been deferred and conditional.

Having Berbatov and Tevez on the list shows that it is utterly stupid. Players bought in their prime and sold on when they reached the end of their top flight years. Hardly flops, expensive or otherwise!
Don't forget the exchange rate on DM. Effectively bought for £50m at today's rate, so a lot of the loss is a forex loss.

Shame he's going as he is a game changer, but his heart wasn't in it ever since the burglary and sending off against the Arse.
A loss is a loss however its caused, we paid 59, we get back 44. We do seem to be quite good at pissing money up the wall these days - good job we seem to have plenty of it!

I am betting that we won't see any more signings except MAYBE Pedro in & DDG out the door at the last minute for not enough cash with neither Bale or Ramos coming the other way. frown (At which point we will have been stuffed by Perez yet again irked )

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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anonymous said:
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laugh

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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ORD said:
I know. Veron is nothing like as bad a call as Tevez and Berba. He was a mixed bag (at best) so maybe deserves to be on the list. £28m was a lot of money back then.

A few others look a bit suspect, too. Carroll is not one of them! Probably the worst big buy ever in the Prem. Torres was fairly poor but still playable; Carroll was a stone over weight, hungover, lazy and terrible. I remember literally laughing out loud when Liverpool spent £35m on him. I think it was about that time that I heard him say in an interview that he wasn't going to stop 'Enjoying his lager' just because he was a big player now.

I wouldn't have had him on a free.
Watching Berbatov in his pomp was worth any financial loss, What a footballer he was , i was gutted when he left my beloved football club,

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Has anyone mentioned Robbie Keane? £19m in and £12m out 6 months later.

Just wondered as there are hundreds of examples where we've all spunked money on ste and lost a fortune. Spuds tend to do it on managers, as they like to offer them £600m a year in wages amd transfer fund then sack them 3 months later and give all the players they bought a free transfer.

Scousers do it on a full team pretty well every season and we chose to do it either on expensive tat a la Veron, or squad based garbage like Klubfoot or the Djemba twins (any United fan should be able to translate)
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