The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]
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spoilsportORD said:
However, never mind Rafael, I am a better crosser than Valencia. His dinked floaters are worse than Championship standard, and I can remember about 1 of his drilled crosses that has ever worked. He doesn't have a decent whipped ball in his locker...at all. It's not a difficult skill, but he strangely doesn't have it!
I guess that's the end of that debate...;) I simply cannot believe that Valencia's ability to cross a ball does not seem to have improved with age/games/training and experience. The lads solid as a rock and deserves a place in the squad but he HAS to deliver more. If I were him I'd be looking at working individually with a coach just on this...I'm assuming
he doesn't. Beckham should come back and work with him. If Valencia started crossing in worldies all the time Fellaini would probably be an 80+ goal a season player. 
I agree though, the fact he hasn't improved is shocking. Although one of his terrible crosses gave us the Evra goal against Bayern which was great... for a minute... but still the best celebration of the Moyes era.
I agree though, the fact he hasn't improved is shocking. Although one of his terrible crosses gave us the Evra goal against Bayern which was great... for a minute... but still the best celebration of the Moyes era.
C'mon lads, watch the way he skilfully bypasses Welbeck and Kagawa with the old "triple bobble decoy" cross that Evra fortunately scuffs into the top corner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ze-rNjaquM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ze-rNjaquM
Cie said:
If Valencia started crossing in worldies all the time Fellaini would probably be an 80+ goal a season player.
I agree though, the fact he hasn't improved is shocking. Although one of his terrible crosses gave us the Evra goal against Bayern which was great... for a minute... but still the best celebration of the Moyes era.
In his first season he did..remember rooney got 30+ goals that season,loads from within the 6 yard box from valencia crosses,or from havoc caused by valencia.Then he got his leg smashed to smithereens.I agree though, the fact he hasn't improved is shocking. Although one of his terrible crosses gave us the Evra goal against Bayern which was great... for a minute... but still the best celebration of the Moyes era.
franki68 said:
Cie said:
If Valencia started crossing in worldies all the time Fellaini would probably be an 80+ goal a season player.
I agree though, the fact he hasn't improved is shocking. Although one of his terrible crosses gave us the Evra goal against Bayern which was great... for a minute... but still the best celebration of the Moyes era.
In his first season he did..remember rooney got 30+ goals that season,loads from within the 6 yard box from valencia crosses,or from havoc caused by valencia.Then he got his leg smashed to smithereens.I agree though, the fact he hasn't improved is shocking. Although one of his terrible crosses gave us the Evra goal against Bayern which was great... for a minute... but still the best celebration of the Moyes era.
Now he hardly takes on the defender, and his crossing is shocking. How he can go backwards is beyond me.
Cie said:
Thanks for the picture Keyser, it set me off for the best sleep in ages. 
And forget leaving transfer speculation, let's dive in balls deep. I saw we've been linked to Sneijder again already.
What's not to love?
Balls deep you say?And forget leaving transfer speculation, let's dive in balls deep. I saw we've been linked to Sneijder again already.
What's not to love?
Sorry Franki but Gundogan is a dream of mine, if he's back to his best him and Hererra in midfield with Carrick or Blind at the base would piss on anyone
Anyway tough game on Sunday, Everton have been better recently and we look to have everyone out still barring maybe Blind according to the presser today but even he is an outside chance. Hope Fellaini has a good game
I have just seen that he is exactly the same height and weight as me. I would have been cheaper.
Looks like a sensible addition if his back isn't broken. We don't need another player with a dodgy back - our coaching seems to involve whacking players in the lower spine with a cricket bat.
Or, more likely, our flexibility work is stuck in the bloody dark ages, which explains why our tallish, muscular players - those who will tend to be less flexible and put greater demands on their backs - are always always always injured - Ferdinand, Vidic, Jones, Smalling, etc
Football is a strange world. Whenever I have worked with football clubs, it amazes me how unsophisticated their commercial and legal work is. According to a personal trainer who worked briefly at a PL club, the fitness and conditioning work was utterly abominable until a few years ago - when they were paying the players tens of thousands per week!
Strange, backward world.
It still just gets a shrug when a team suffers a lot of muscle injuries all at once, as though they might not want to work out why and fix it! I expect VdG went mental when we had so many injuries like that some months ago.
Looks like a sensible addition if his back isn't broken. We don't need another player with a dodgy back - our coaching seems to involve whacking players in the lower spine with a cricket bat.
Or, more likely, our flexibility work is stuck in the bloody dark ages, which explains why our tallish, muscular players - those who will tend to be less flexible and put greater demands on their backs - are always always always injured - Ferdinand, Vidic, Jones, Smalling, etc
Football is a strange world. Whenever I have worked with football clubs, it amazes me how unsophisticated their commercial and legal work is. According to a personal trainer who worked briefly at a PL club, the fitness and conditioning work was utterly abominable until a few years ago - when they were paying the players tens of thousands per week!
Strange, backward world.
It still just gets a shrug when a team suffers a lot of muscle injuries all at once, as though they might not want to work out why and fix it! I expect VdG went mental when we had so many injuries like that some months ago.
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