The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]
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rouge59 said:
That cock nosed Dutch tt can shove his fking 'Philosophy' up his fking arse.
He is making us hard to beat and that's going to be his remit for the season. Hopefully he will get some extra players in, but I don't think you can play with Mata and Rooney in the same side, and for me I'd rather have Mata at 10 and put extra pace out wide.We are 1 point of top, best defensive record in the league.
Yes we are dull to watch and will be like that. Even sticking the oar in about not being the Fergie Way but he has gone and we have become like any other club who change managers and have to change their philosophy to meet what the manager wants to do.
BrabusMog said:
hebangsthedrums said:
ORD said:
The painful part is that Leicester is a very average team. The league position is hugely flattering to them. Yet I am not that disappointed with a point. We are THAT bad!
This its exactly why a lot of football fans don't like Man Utd fans..All the 'You can't criticise other teams if yours isn't playing well' nonsense is just that.
Newcastle are beyond horrendous. Am I allowed to say that? Do I have to wait until Utd start playing well.
Your arrogance is astounding.
Jamie Vardy just broke the record for consecutive goals scored in the league, he would definitely be out of place in a relegation threatened team. If you'd bothered to watch him yesterday, or in any previous game this season, you'd see that he is a very pacy and powerful striker (despite his skinny frame) and he would be above any United forward player in the queue to be picked, in my opinion. As would Mahrez and Schlup. They also play an enjoyable blend of football, they look menacing when they go forward and they aren't scared to actually play football.
Anyone is entitled to say a team is crap, but it's always helpful to give examples to highlight your opinion. Saying that Leicester are a fluke and United should brush them aside is a comment I'd expect to hear on a playground, not here. It's also the kind of comment that creates the "ABUs" that people here love to moan about.
Jamie Vardy just broke the record for consecutive goals scored in the league, he would definitely be out of place in a relegation threatened team. If you'd bothered to watch him yesterday, or in any previous game this season, you'd see that he is a very pacy and powerful striker (despite his skinny frame) and he would be above any United forward player in the queue to be picked, in my opinion. As would Mahrez and Schlup. They also play an enjoyable blend of football, they look menacing when they go forward and they aren't scared to actually play football.
Anyone is entitled to say a team is crap, but it's always helpful to give examples to highlight your opinion. Saying that Leicester are a fluke and United should brush them aside is a comment I'd expect to hear on a playground, not here. It's also the kind of comment that creates the "ABUs" that people here love to moan about.
Edited by BrabusMog on Sunday 29th November 09:33
Alpinestars said:
Interesting comment from Shearer. He wouldn't want to play in the current team because of the lack of ambition up front.
I've said this current style will put strikers off wanting to come to United, creating a vicious circle.
I don't think attracting players is an issue.I've said this current style will put strikers off wanting to come to United, creating a vicious circle.
The forwards are not getting great service,but our forwards are also st.rooney is a joke.shearer defending him was a joke,he clearly didn't watch the game .The guy is on 250k a week,he should be able to produce. Moments of magic ,instead he cannot even play simple balls throug h to martial to pit him through on goal.
The wide players have no penetration and when they do get into crossing positions they either deliver a great cross but find our forwards are not even in the penalty area,or they more often than not deliver st balls.
Alpinestars said:
Interesting comment from Shearer. He wouldn't want to play in the current team because of the lack of ambition up front.
I've said this current style will put strikers off wanting to come to United, creating a vicious circle.
He's not daft. The team isn't geared up to service strikers. Or when they do have a chance to supply, it falls to Young, who's embarrassing at getting a decent ball in...I've said this current style will put strikers off wanting to come to United, creating a vicious circle.
BrabusMog said:
Your arrogance is astounding.
Jamie Vardy just broke the record for consecutive goals scored in the league, he would definitely be out of place in a relegation threatened team. If you'd bothered to watch him yesterday, or in any previous game this season, you'd see that he is a very pacy and powerful striker (despite his skinny frame) and he would be above any United forward player in the queue to be picked, in my opinion. As would Mahrez and Schlup. They also play an enjoyable blend of football, they look menacing when they go forward and they aren't scared to actually play football.
Anyone is entitled to say a team is crap, but it's always helpful to give examples to highlight your opinion. Saying that Leicester are a fluke and United should brush them aside is a comment I'd expect to hear on a playground, not here. It's also the kind of comment that creates the "ABUs" that people here love to moan about.
Well said. As a United fan I totally agree with you. Jamie Vardy just broke the record for consecutive goals scored in the league, he would definitely be out of place in a relegation threatened team. If you'd bothered to watch him yesterday, or in any previous game this season, you'd see that he is a very pacy and powerful striker (despite his skinny frame) and he would be above any United forward player in the queue to be picked, in my opinion. As would Mahrez and Schlup. They also play an enjoyable blend of football, they look menacing when they go forward and they aren't scared to actually play football.
Anyone is entitled to say a team is crap, but it's always helpful to give examples to highlight your opinion. Saying that Leicester are a fluke and United should brush them aside is a comment I'd expect to hear on a playground, not here. It's also the kind of comment that creates the "ABUs" that people here love to moan about.
Edited by BrabusMog on Sunday 29th November 09:33
anniesdad said:
Alpinestars said:
Interesting comment from Shearer. He wouldn't want to play in the current team because of the lack of ambition up front.
I've said this current style will put strikers off wanting to come to United, creating a vicious circle.
He's not daft. The team isn't geared up to service strikers. Or when they do have a chance to supply, it falls to Young, who's embarrassing at getting a decent ball in...I've said this current style will put strikers off wanting to come to United, creating a vicious circle.
I didn't say any of the things you attribute to me! Classic straw man.
You named 3 decent players from Leicester's team, which is probably about right. Vardy is a 28 year old striker having the season of his life, and good on him. Don't hold your breath for a big money bid from any top side, though, as he is playing at his level.
Leicester would do well to finish in the top 8. I expect saying that makes me 'arrogant' (which is hard to follow given that I am not Man U and do not play for them).
You named 3 decent players from Leicester's team, which is probably about right. Vardy is a 28 year old striker having the season of his life, and good on him. Don't hold your breath for a big money bid from any top side, though, as he is playing at his level.
Leicester would do well to finish in the top 8. I expect saying that makes me 'arrogant' (which is hard to follow given that I am not Man U and do not play for them).
MiniMan64 said:
Leicester are definitely on a run at the moment and are the inform team in the league. Is it just our predjuice that puts them down a bit?
Would anybody here (all football forums) put their money on them being top 4 come May?
Looking at the way they play, I think they could be in with a sniff of top 4, as long as they don't get injuries. They rely heavily on Mahrez and Vardy for their attacking flair, although Albrighton does seem to chip in well. They do play as a team, but they've got three players that drag up the performances from the other players around them. Again, in my opinion...Would anybody here (all football forums) put their money on them being top 4 come May?
I just think reading comments from posters saying that Leicester are a fluke is really disrespectful, especially as United have not served up any enjoyable football this season. I'd rather watch a fluke for half a season than a football by numbers team.
ORD said:
None of us thinks Leicester will finish in the top 4. That's the honest answer.
We may be proven wrong, and that would be no bad thing. It would be good to see the top of the table shaken up a bit, given how poor the big teams are this season.
Maybe you should think about the way you come across in your posts, that message was not apparent anywhere in your earlier posts.We may be proven wrong, and that would be no bad thing. It would be good to see the top of the table shaken up a bit, given how poor the big teams are this season.
ORD said:
BrabusMog said:
Maybe you should think about the way you come across in your posts, that message was not apparent anywhere in your earlier posts.
Because I was making a different point. The rush to ad hominem criticism and virtue signalling on here is very dull at times. ORD said:
Don't be a tit. Are you seriously trying to imply that Leicester has good players? Most of them wouldn't be out of place in a team struggling to avoid relegation. But they are on form and playing well as a team, unlike United and, even more shockingly, Chelsea.
All the 'You can't criticise other teams if yours isn't playing well' nonsense is just that.
Newcastle are beyond horrendous. Am I allowed to say that? Do I have to wait until Utd start playing well.
All the 'You can't criticise other teams if yours isn't playing well' nonsense is just that.
Newcastle are beyond horrendous. Am I allowed to say that? Do I have to wait until Utd start playing well.
anniesdad said:
He's not daft. The team isn't geared up to service strikers. Or when they do have a chance to supply, it falls to Young, who's embarrassing at getting a decent ball in...
I saw at least 5 really good balls into the box yesterday that a decent striker would have pounced on,3 of them Rooney wasn't even in the box,and the other two he was stood alongside martial at the back post .Do you think we would be struggling as much if we had say Suarez,or augero as the center forward ?
franki68 said:
I saw at least 5 really good balls into the box yesterday that a decent striker would have pounced on,3 of them Rooney wasn't even in the box,and the other two he was stood alongside martial at the back post .
Do you think we would be struggling as much if we had say Suarez,or augero as the center forward ?
Nope. We would be easily top of the league. That doesnt mean we are playing good football; we are not. But the LvG model (make only 2 or 3 chances per game but st very few goals) would have won us a lot more games if we had a better finisher. Martial is excellent but still learning his craft, and Rooney is terrible.Do you think we would be struggling as much if we had say Suarez,or augero as the center forward ?
franki68 said:
anniesdad said:
He's not daft. The team isn't geared up to service strikers. Or when they do have a chance to supply, it falls to Young, who's embarrassing at getting a decent ball in...
I saw at least 5 really good balls into the box yesterday that a decent striker would have pounced on,3 of them Rooney wasn't even in the box,and the other two he was stood alongside martial at the back post .Do you think we would be struggling as much if we had say Suarez,or augero as the center forward ?
I also think we have the players to be able to play attacking football, but a world class striker and forward looking midfielder would not go amiss.
ORD said:
BrabusMog said:
hebangsthedrums said:
ORD said:
The painful part is that Leicester is a very average team. The league position is hugely flattering to them. Yet I am not that disappointed with a point. We are THAT bad!
This its exactly why a lot of football fans don't like Man Utd fans..All the 'You can't criticise other teams if yours isn't playing well' nonsense is just that.
Newcastle are beyond horrendous. Am I allowed to say that? Do I have to wait until Utd start playing well.
Leicester have good players, I don't think that can be disputed.
I thought United played well as a team/unit yesterday, its just their end game is turgid dull football.
hebangsthedrums said:
Not sure who you were calling a tit or why you were calling anyone a tit?
Leicester have good players, I don't think that can be disputed.
I thought United played well as a team/unit yesterday, its just their end game is turgid dull football.
Mahrez plays the type of football Depay can only dream about at the moment.Leicester have good players, I don't think that can be disputed.
I thought United played well as a team/unit yesterday, its just their end game is turgid dull football.
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