The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

[Cie]

MiniMan64 said:

The question remains, LVG out, who's in?

Jose or Giggs seem the likely choices. Neither very appealing.

Mourinho is about 500 jizzillion times more appealing than LvG right now.

[Soir]

Jose all day long for me

His record is phenomenal (bar 2nd spell at Chelsea) already one of the greatest managers of all time. I'm a red & lots of mates are against the idea of him because:

Arrogance - this is a plus for me, he's a mirror young Fergie
Plays defensive - true but he did change play for Real Madrid and can do so again
Longevity - who does these days?
Promotes Youth - big one for Manu and rightly so.

As we know his record is amazing. Pep inherited possibly the greatest club side of all time. Then took over current European champions. Jose did it with Porto. He got an ageing Inter Milan to win the treble and probably most amazing he got a group of individuals and won La Liga against again arguably the greatest club side ever.

[London424]

Soir said:

Jose all day long for me

His record is phenomenal (bar 2nd spell at Chelsea) already one of the greatest managers of all time. I'm a red & lots of mates are against the idea of him because:

Arrogance - this is a plus for me, he's a mirror young Fergie
Plays defensive - true but he did change play for Real Madrid and can do so again
Longevity - who does these days?
Promotes Youth - big one for Manu and rightly so.

As we know his record is amazing. Pep inherited possibly the greatest club side of all time. Then took over current European champions. Jose did it with Porto. He got an ageing Inter Milan to win the treble and probably most amazing he got a group of individuals and won La Liga against again arguably the greatest club side ever.

Are you suggesting he does or doesn't promote youth?

[bstb3]

You wonder why Pep / City is announced today, and not tomorrow. Have they had to brief someone that they can't be sure won't spill the beans to try and secure / scupper a move? Or has it just been agreed today and is hot off the press?

Assuming it was agreed a while ago, then we probably would have known or at least been indicated by Pep's people. So all the while Jose has been available and Guardiola not, we still haven't gone for him. One way or another the club doesn't fancy him (or his agent) getting into us.

It still looks like Giggs to me, which fills me full of dread, but not seeing any signs of anything else. Maybe he will be great, loyal etc. Anyone seeing signs of that in what is on the pitch at the moment? Rhodri might have views on his loyalty too, although in fairness that's a bit below the belt.

To be honest, who would come right now (that would do a good job, obviously lots would want to, eh Sam)? Simeone is building a legacy at Atletico and has no ties to us whatsoever. Poch seems happy at Spurs and is doing himself no harm there at all. Blanc maybe, but is only showing he can do it at the biggest fish in a very limited pond in Ligue 1.

[SidJames]

MiniMan64 said:

The question remains, LVG out, who's in?

Jose or Giggs seem the likely choices. Neither very appealing.

I love Giggsy, but I see him as ssistnt/head coach not asthe manager.

Would love Jose.

[bstb3]

Soir said:

Promotes Youth - big one for Manu and rightly so.

Daniel & Romelu might disagree, but haven't amounted to anything so it's ok. oh wait.. Still even the best let the wrong ones go sometimes. We had Pogba once.

[Soir]

London424 said:

Soir said:

Jose all day long for me

His record is phenomenal (bar 2nd spell at Chelsea) already one of the greatest managers of all time. I'm a red & lots of mates are against the idea of him because:

Arrogance - this is a plus for me, he's a mirror young Fergie
Plays defensive - true but he did change play for Real Madrid and can do so again
Longevity - who does these days?
Promotes Youth - big one for Manu and rightly so.

As we know his record is amazing. Pep inherited possibly the greatest club side of all time. Then took over current European champions. Jose did it with Porto. He got an ageing Inter Milan to win the treble and probably most amazing he got a group of individuals and won La Liga against again arguably the greatest club side ever.

Are you suggesting he does or doesn't promote youth?

Apologies I didn't word that very well. He doesn't promote youth

[Cheib]

I read a comment that maybe Pep going to Citeh has possibly made Jose to Man u less likely....it would definitely kick off between them?

[jammy_basturd]

Would you guys take Pellegrini?

[Soir]

Cheib said:

I read a comment that maybe Pep going to Citeh has possibly made Jose to Man u less likely....it would definitely kick off between them?

I would hope it meant more likely.
Their rivalry in Spain. The fact Jose beat him in the league.
Friends who said couple months ago they would never want Jose seem to be warming to the idea (now Pep no longer available)

[RoadRunner220]

bstb3 said:

jammy_basturd said:

I see you guys are getting Pep next season.

Pap, we'll be getting pap.

We've got that already.

[anonymous-user]

From what I've seen at Saints and Spuds Pochetino is still the guy we should be targeting, whether he'd want to come at the moment I don't know.

I'd be more open to José now than I was, I think if we'd run to him the minute he was sacked his ego would have persisted, maybe 6 months out to reboot and lose some of the paranoia might mellow him a tiny bit. We'd definitely win things with him and yes the football wouldn't always be great but it wouldn't be as bad as now

[so called]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I would be happy with José being the Manager if we got an indication that he wanted to be a long term leader.

I would also be happy (if not a little naive) for Ole Gunner to be the Manager and Giggsy his No.2.
Ole is a very focused and determined guy, knows how Manchester United and English football work.

Edited by so called on Tuesday 2nd February 04:15

[Challo]

so called said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I would be happy with José being the Manager if we got an indication that he wanted to be a long term leader.

I would also be happy (if not a little naive) for Ole Gunner to be the Manager and Giggsy his No.2.
Ole is a very focused and determined guy, knows how Manchester United and English football work.

Edited by so called on Tuesday 2nd February 04:15

I love Ole and Giggsy but they are not the next Man United manager. Ole had a shocking spell managing Cardiff, and has only managed Molde in Norway. Giggs has had a couple of years as a number 2 but does not have the experience to manage United.

[pincher]

If you can look past the 'noisy neighbours' nonsense, why wouldn't you consider Pellegrini? He's a good manager, has a good relationship with the media, is seemingly well respected by the players and has conducted himself admirably throughout the whole Pep will he/won't he debacle.

I genuinely think he'd be a better (safer?) bet than Mourinho.

As for Giggs? Nah...... GNev is proving that no matter how many games you played, or how well you talk about the game on telly, managing is a whole different thing.....

[Frimley111R]

pincher said:

As for Giggs? Nah...... GNev is proving that no matter how many games you played, or how well you talk about the game on telly, managing is a whole different thing.....

Agree, I want to remember him as a great player for us, not a bad manager.

[Lord_Howit_Hertz]

What about Mark Hughes?

I am still unsure about the Jose thing, and like others have said, not Giggs, his only managerial experience has come from sitting next to LVG and Moyes, plus I want to remember him as a great player.

I think Hughes has all the credentials required to be a good United boss, but wouldn't risk his United player status like it would Giggs

[Alpinestars]

pincher said:

If you can look past the 'noisy neighbours' nonsense, why wouldn't you consider Pellegrini? He's a good manager, has a good relationship with the media, is seemingly well respected by the players and has conducted himself admirably throughout the whole Pep will he/won't he debacle.

I genuinely think he'd be a better (safer?) bet than Mourinho.

As for Giggs? Nah...... GNev is proving that no matter how many games you played, or how well you talk about the game on telly, managing is a whole different thing.....

I like Pellegrini.

[counterofbeans]

Rafa Benitez is available, he's managed some big clubs...

[bstb3]

counterofbeans said:

Rafa Benitez is available, he's managed some big clubs...

Yes he has. Liverpool too.

I like what Hughes has done at Stoke, and obviously his history with the club is there for all to see, but when you look at his managerial career overall at club level (do him the benefit of not considering Wales), then his success in terms of win rates & trophies is slightly lower than Moyes managed. Yes at smaller clubs, but I'd hope the club were looking for people with a track record of developing success irrespective of the challenges - much like Klopp did at Dortmund for example - given how much rebuilding we still seem to need in footballing terms on and off the pitch.

Edited by bstb3 on Tuesday 2nd February 14:48