The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]
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Challo said:
Agree as well. Just shows what a good manager can actually do with the players at his disposal. Even when Vardy was injured/suspended they still got results and had to change the style of play. Leicester are more than a counter attacking team, and in parts have played some very good football and comfortably scored 3 and 4 goals in a game.
They have defenders who just defend, mildfielders in Kante and Drinkwater who do the simple things, work had and allow players like Mahrez and Vardy to do the damage. Well deserved win and makes a mockery of so called superstars commanding big transfer fees and huge salaries.
I agree with every word of that. Ranieri has played and absolute blinder, and his players have done themselves proud. It is an amazing victory for them all. It also shows, I agree, how badly a lot of other clubs are managed and how much money they waste on average players. They have defenders who just defend, mildfielders in Kante and Drinkwater who do the simple things, work had and allow players like Mahrez and Vardy to do the damage. Well deserved win and makes a mockery of so called superstars commanding big transfer fees and huge salaries.
But Leicester still play (mostyl) s
te football and are a dirty side. All of those things can be true. We dont have to sign up to the BBC fairy tale "best thing ever" narrative.
I have been saying for years that it is the middling players (who sell for £10m or so) that are a copmplete rip off, as they are no better than £1m players.
Challo said:
Agree as well. Just shows what a good manager can actually do with the players at his disposal.
LOL, opportunism rules.Ranieri's previous job;
He was appointed manager of the Greece national football team following the departure of Fernando Santos after the 2014 FIFA World Cup. He was sacked on 15 November 2014, the day after a UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying defeat at home against the Faroe Islands (1 point out of 4 matches).
Ranieri been a manager since 1986, hardly won anything, and never a leaque title.
DeltonaS said:
Challo said:
Agree as well. Just shows what a good manager can actually do with the players at his disposal.
LOL, opportunism rules.Ranieri's previous job;
He was appointed manager of the Greece national football team following the departure of Fernando Santos after the 2014 FIFA World Cup. He was sacked on 15 November 2014, the day after a UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying defeat at home against the Faroe Islands (1 point out of 4 matches).
Ranieri been a manager since 1986, hardly won anything, and never a leaque title.
This thread is now bordering on the ridiculous. One or two posters on here have suggested that Leicester aren't the most amazing thing ever and it now seems that every club other than United are ecstatic for Leicester.
I think everyone is applauding their winning of the PL, but no fan of any other club should be happy about it. They've beaten all of us to the title, or worse if you're fighting relegation, they've avoided it!
Every one of the big clubs should be embarrassed that they've not won it though, much like they should've been a few years ago when United won it last. We were terrible that season.
Back to the point. We're not Leicester fans, we shouldn't be cooing over then and if we want to criticise then why not? I'm damn sure if Spurs had won it then we wouldn't be jumping up and down supporting them.
It's also been done before Forest won the old 1st Division in their first year. Leeds won the last 1st Division title in their second year, which isn't a lifetime ago.
I think everyone is applauding their winning of the PL, but no fan of any other club should be happy about it. They've beaten all of us to the title, or worse if you're fighting relegation, they've avoided it!
Every one of the big clubs should be embarrassed that they've not won it though, much like they should've been a few years ago when United won it last. We were terrible that season.
Back to the point. We're not Leicester fans, we shouldn't be cooing over then and if we want to criticise then why not? I'm damn sure if Spurs had won it then we wouldn't be jumping up and down supporting them.
It's also been done before Forest won the old 1st Division in their first year. Leeds won the last 1st Division title in their second year, which isn't a lifetime ago.
Alpinestars said:
I think you've said before that the manager doesn't matter. How do you explain Leicester winning the League? Did Raniera have anything to do with it or could you or I have achieved the same?
First of all I never said a manager doesn't matter, I said theirs too much emphasis on the manager.Secondly, I reacted on a couple of posts which stated a good manager makes A) all the difference, and B) Ranieri would've done the same if he was appointed at ManU;
Concerning A; if Raneira is such a miracle worker you'd expect him having done similar things at his previous jobs.
Concerning B; ofcourse Raniera has something to do with the current success, but let's say he wasn't appointed at Leicester but at Chelsea, City or ManU at the beginning of this season, would he have similar success ? history, both his own and the aforementioned clubs, and the circumstances show this season he probably didn't.
And don't forget that Leicester didn't play in Europe, have maybe 13, 14 players to choose from in their first 11, had very few injury's, no youngsters, a simple game plan, no expectations, no extractions.
Plus Leicester ofcourse benefited from Chelsea and City not performing as you'd expect.
Leicester winning the League can only be explained as a lot circumstances falling in the right place, including an experienced manager with the right attitude and who did all the right things.
ORD said:
Wacky Racer said:
Yes, only won the League cup and one game away from The Champion's league final, as well as fourth in the league.
Not a great season, but we would certainly have taken that ten years ago.
Pep to come in shortly...all the dead wood out, the future's bright.
Well done Leicester btw, nice to see an underdog upset the big boys.
4th in the league despite having easily the best team and easily the best squad. Not very impressive. Not a great season, but we would certainly have taken that ten years ago.
Pep to come in shortly...all the dead wood out, the future's bright.
Well done Leicester btw, nice to see an underdog upset the big boys.
We (City) haven't got the best TEAM in the Premiership, maybe the best squad when all fit, but how often is that?....That applies to any team though...other teams pick up injuries, so that's no excuse.
Yaya just plays when he feels like it, Silva has been average, Kolarov is s
t, I think we will be lucky to finish fourth tbh....it's all our own fault.If we DO win the Champions League it will be a joke......
DeltonaS said:
Alpinestars said:
I think you've said before that the manager doesn't matter. How do you explain Leicester winning the League? Did Raniera have anything to do with it or could you or I have achieved the same?
First of all I never said a manager doesn't matter, I said theirs too much emphasis on the manager.Secondly, I reacted on a couple of posts which stated a good manager makes A) all the difference, and B) Ranieri would've done the same if he was appointed at ManU;
Concerning A; if Raneira is such a miracle worker you'd expect him having done similar things at his previous jobs.
Concerning B; ofcourse Raniera has something to do with the current success, but let's say he wasn't appointed at Leicester but at Chelsea, City or ManU at the beginning of this season, would he have similar success ? history, both his own and the aforementioned clubs, and the circumstances show this season he probably didn't.
And don't forget that Leicester didn't play in Europe, have maybe 13, 14 players to choose from in their first 11, had very few injury's, no youngsters, a simple game plan, no expectations, no extractions.
Plus Leicester ofcourse benefited from Chelsea and City not performing as you'd expect.
Leicester winning the League can only be explained as a lot circumstances falling in the right place, including an experienced manager with the right attitude and who did all the right things.
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