The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

[Alpinestars]

lionelf said:

Alpinestars said:

berlintaxi said:

Wombat3 said:

berlintaxi said:

Tuvra said:

You think Spurs are going to be cash rich for the next few seasons when they are building a new stadium? Bless

And there are really going to sell a prime asset which is increasing in value year on year? Truly deluded.

You mean like Bale or Modric?

Different times, look at the income Spurs will receive from the TV deal next season plus Champions League income and tell me if you really believe they need to sell players.

I don't think they need to sell, but are looking at options to raise finance for the stadium/new investors.

Didn't stop us putting in a cheeky bid for Kane though.

When was that? I saw nothing official about any offer for Kane. Look, Spurs wouldn't sell you Bale when you offered more than Real Madrid (£100m) what makes you think they'd sell you Kane or Alli. Poch wouldn't go to United so why would anyone else of any note at the moment and not just from Spurs? The stadium is already being built, the finance is already in place.

Not all offers are "official". I doubt very much they would sell though.

[whatxd]

berlintaxi said:

Wages would be a lot more than £3m, and I doubt either would pass up Champions League to play Thursday night football.

As I said on the last page, it would take a record bid to get Ali or Kane out of Tottenham and for that reason, it won't happen because the same money will buy you better players from Europe.

However, It is well within the capability for Manchester United to pay Harry Kane £300,000 a week and if they offered a world record bid to Spurs, he would be here within a week.

Do you seriously think he's going to be content with the £50,000 - £100,000 that Spurs can pay him when United would more than double his money if such a move ever came to pass? Champions League and Thursday night football would have absolutely nothing to do with the decision.

This is all hypothetical though because while Kane is excellent, he is not worth the £80 - £100 million that Levy would demand which is why no one is going to make an offer.

[ORD]

Kane would be a rip off.

Alli I would buy before the Euros. His value may well sky rocket after the tournament.

[berlintaxi]

whatxd said:

berlintaxi said:

Wages would be a lot more than £3m, and I doubt either would pass up Champions League to play Thursday night football.

As I said on the last page, it would take a record bid to get Ali or Kane out of Tottenham and for that reason, it won't happen because the same money will buy you better players from Europe.

However, It is well within the capability for Manchester United to pay Harry Kane £300,000 a week and if they offered a world record bid to Spurs, he would be here within a week.

Do you seriously think he's going to be content with the £50,000 - £100,000 that Spurs can pay him when United would more than double his money if such a move ever came to pass? Champions League and Thursday night football would have absolutely nothing to do with the decision.

Many clubs across Europe could offer him £3000,000 a week, a number of which are in the champions league so of course that would be a factor in his decision, or would you sooner United had players more interested in money than ambition?

[ORD]

If Kane is ambitious, he will leave Spurs. They are unlikely to finish as high again for years. Even this season, they ultimately bottled it!

[selym]

ORD said:

If Kane is ambitious, he will leave Spurs. They are unlikely to finish as high again for years. Even this season, they ultimately bottled it!

If he was ambitious and decided to leave, it would be c-a-razy to join any club in England. That's not ambition.

[ORD]

selym said:

ORD said:

If Kane is ambitious, he will leave Spurs. They are unlikely to finish as high again for years. Even this season, they ultimately bottled it!

If he was ambitious and decided to leave, it would be c-a-razy to join any club in England. That's not ambition.

Agreed. I dont think he would join Utd for anything but money. The same goes for City (perhaps more so).

[lionelf]

selym said:

ORD said:

If Kane is ambitious, he will leave Spurs. They are unlikely to finish as high again for years. Even this season, they ultimately bottled it!

If he was ambitious and decided to leave, it would be c-a-razy to join any club in England. That's not ambition.

Perhaps 5 or so years ago it would have been but not now. I believe Van Persil will go down as the last of the heavyweights to jump from one top EPL club across to United.

[anniesdad]

I like Kane. If he were to become available, which I doubt, then I would hope that United might look to get him. I reckon he would make quite a partner for Martial. But I can't see either him or Delle Ali leaving Spurs anytime soon.

[anniesdad]

lionelf said:

I believe Van Persil will go down as the last of the heavyweights to jump from one top EPL club across to United.

....time will tell.

We signed Di Maria when we were out of the ECL, do not underestimate the power of the red side.

[bstb3]

If Ibrahimovic signs then they will come. Everybody wants to play with Zlatan.




(except maybe Gennaro Gattuso, whom he once put in a bin)

[Wombat3]

lionelf said:

selym said:

ORD said:

If Kane is ambitious, he will leave Spurs. They are unlikely to finish as high again for years. Even this season, they ultimately bottled it!

If he was ambitious and decided to leave, it would be c-a-razy to join any club in England. That's not ambition.

Perhaps 5 or so years ago it would have been but not now. I believe Van Persil will go down as the last of the heavyweights to jump from one top EPL club across to United.

Tend to agree with this - but who knows what might happen if someone (in the BPL) offers Kane or Alli £250K a week?

Spurs problem is not that they can't afford to turn down the transfer bids, it may well be that they can't afford the wage structure that they'd have to put in place to keep some of these players happy when they are being offered huge money elsewhere.

It may not be considered "ethical" but its a very good way for the likes of United or City to keep others behind them. Offer their best players huge amounts so that either they come, or, if they stay, their existing clubs have to dig deep to keep them.

[lionelf]

Wombat3 said:

lionelf said:

selym said:

ORD said:

If Kane is ambitious, he will leave Spurs. They are unlikely to finish as high again for years. Even this season, they ultimately bottled it!

If he was ambitious and decided to leave, it would be c-a-razy to join any club in England. That's not ambition.

Perhaps 5 or so years ago it would have been but not now. I believe Van Persil will go down as the last of the heavyweights to jump from one top EPL club across to United.

Tend to agree with this - but who knows what might happen if someone (in the BPL) offers Kane or Alli £250K a week?

Spurs problem is not that they can't afford to turn down the transfer bids, it may well be that they can't afford the wage structure that they'd have to put in place to keep some of these players happy when they are being offered huge money elsewhere.

It may not be considered "ethical" but its a very good way for the likes of United or City to keep others behind them. Offer their best players huge amounts so that either they come, or, if they stay, their existing clubs have to dig deep to keep them.

Money won't be a problem for Spurs and many others. Spurs new stadium will see their match day revenue rise dramatically. There's the new TV deal that kicks in next season. NFL Income plus on the back of it a £30m per year deal in Stadium naming rights. A new sponsorship deal. Champions League Income.

The EPL will be awash with cash to keep Vardy, Payet, Kane and the rest at their current clubs if they really want to retain them. That's why you are all looking abroad for your new signings.

[Cie]

anonymous said:

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I can't believe I haven't seen this. WTF?

[DeltonaS]

Wacky Racer said:

Serious question:-

Do you reds think United will finish above City next season, bearing in mind both clubs have top new managers and both squads will need drastic rebuilding.

Why would ManU's squad needs rebuilding ?

According to the pundits here a good manager will easily get ManU the tile.

I mean Rooney will then deliver the 20 goals he promised at the beginning of this season, Mata will no doubt start delivering an Iniesta'esque assist average, Depay will discover that the ManU dressing room has a mirror, subsequently will sell his Roller and start committing to the job and Rashford and Martial will just speedup their upward trajectory towards becoming WC players.

[Wombat3]

lionelf said:

Wombat3 said:

lionelf said:

selym said:

ORD said:

If Kane is ambitious, he will leave Spurs. They are unlikely to finish as high again for years. Even this season, they ultimately bottled it!

If he was ambitious and decided to leave, it would be c-a-razy to join any club in England. That's not ambition.

Perhaps 5 or so years ago it would have been but not now. I believe Van Persil will go down as the last of the heavyweights to jump from one top EPL club across to United.

Tend to agree with this - but who knows what might happen if someone (in the BPL) offers Kane or Alli £250K a week?

Spurs problem is not that they can't afford to turn down the transfer bids, it may well be that they can't afford the wage structure that they'd have to put in place to keep some of these players happy when they are being offered huge money elsewhere.

It may not be considered "ethical" but its a very good way for the likes of United or City to keep others behind them. Offer their best players huge amounts so that either they come, or, if they stay, their existing clubs have to dig deep to keep them.

Money won't be a problem for Spurs and many others. Spurs new stadium will see their match day revenue rise dramatically. There's the new TV deal that kicks in next season. NFL Income plus on the back of it a £30m per year deal in Stadium naming rights. A new sponsorship deal. Champions League Income.

The EPL will be awash with cash to keep Vardy, Payet, Kane and the rest at their current clubs if they really want to retain them. That's why you are all looking abroad for your new signings.

Except that however much they have, Utd and one or two others will still have more because, commercially, they are miles ahead.

[MiniMan64]

Does no one else feel the potential Ibrahimovic signing has a whiff of Falco? Remember how excited we were about that?

[ORD]

MiniMan64 said:

Does no one else feel the potential Ibrahimovic signing has a whiff of Falco? Remember how excited we were about that?

To be fair, not all of us were. I got slated for saying it at the time, but we knew f@ck all about him, and it was stupid to get caught up in the hype.

I also called the Schweinsteiger buy as stupid because he seemed to be past it. I'm on a roll!

I would expect Ibra to do fairly well. But he isn't Cantona.

I'm less persuaded by the idea that Stones is worth £50m!

[berlintaxi]

Ibrahimovic and his ego are toxic in any dressing room, certainly won't engender a team spirit at Old Trafford, as for his scoring record the French league is hardly top draw football.

[bridgdav]

Please BBC Sport..
If you are going to make a Photoshop picture.. At least get it right.
Spot the mistake..?