The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]
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ORD said:
8.1 kph? What is that?
I would be amazed if he was faster than Valencia or Rashford or Bailly (the rest of our players are almost impressively slow, including Martial - who, for some reason, never seems to break into a sprint despite looking rapid in theory).
Lack of pace is one of our main weaknesses, don't you think?
The one thing getting little press or even comment on here is that Ashley Young keeps on sneaking his way onto the bench and even onto the pitch despite being worse than me at this football stuff. Martial and Micky must be dreadful or injured.
Young is decent, definitely worth a place on the bench I reckon. I wouldn't pick him ahead of the others you mentioned, however.I would be amazed if he was faster than Valencia or Rashford or Bailly (the rest of our players are almost impressively slow, including Martial - who, for some reason, never seems to break into a sprint despite looking rapid in theory).
Lack of pace is one of our main weaknesses, don't you think?
The one thing getting little press or even comment on here is that Ashley Young keeps on sneaking his way onto the bench and even onto the pitch despite being worse than me at this football stuff. Martial and Micky must be dreadful or injured.
Bit of a Unit said:
There's no truth in his marketing value forcing team appearances.
He did however register the fastest sprint of the game at 8.1kph when he got on the pitch.
But it is just one game in a season of 60 odd if we are successful. If he hasn't played again by the end of October the it's a story.
Is that stat true as 8.1 kilometres per hour isn't quick (unless kph means something else?)?He did however register the fastest sprint of the game at 8.1kph when he got on the pitch.
But it is just one game in a season of 60 odd if we are successful. If he hasn't played again by the end of October the it's a story.
Sorry the figure clearly got lost via auto correct.
The point was that Rooney recorded the fastest acceleration and sprint of the match. Whilst checking I hadn't made a t
t of myself he was 4th to Sterling last season in top speeds recorded in premier league games. All meaningless stats but the lad is far from spent.
The point was that Rooney recorded the fastest acceleration and sprint of the match. Whilst checking I hadn't made a t
t of myself he was 4th to Sterling last season in top speeds recorded in premier league games. All meaningless stats but the lad is far from spent. As an aside, Arsenal's Hector Bellerin is angling for some after-season race with Usain Bolt. HB's best time for 40m is 4.42 and he is considered (prob by himself) to be the fastest player in the Prem. If you translate that into a 100m time that is just shy of 12 seconds, which while fast would put Bolt MILES ahead ... ! ... as in 15-20m ...
Bit of a Unit said:
Sorry the figure clearly got lost via auto correct.
The point was that Rooney recorded the fastest acceleration and sprint of the match. Whilst checking I hadn't made a tt of myself he was 4th to Sterling last season in top speeds recorded in premier league games. All meaningless stats but the lad is far from spent.
I beg to differ. Just because he ran fast doesn't mean anything. When you have been consistently performing poorly for the last two seasons and showing no signs of getting back that form then you can say he is getting past it.The point was that Rooney recorded the fastest acceleration and sprint of the match. Whilst checking I hadn't made a t
t of myself he was 4th to Sterling last season in top speeds recorded in premier league games. All meaningless stats but the lad is far from spent. uk66fastback said:
As an aside, Arsenal's Hector Bellerin is angling for some after-season race with Usain Bolt. HB's best time for 40m is 4.42 and he is considered (prob by himself) to be the fastest player in the Prem. If you translate that into a 100m time that is just shy of 12 seconds, which while fast would put Bolt MILES ahead ... ! ... as in 15-20m ...
What's UB's 40m time? Doesn't sound like you're comparing like with like? From a standing start, 0-40m would take longer that 40-80m. Challo said:
I beg to differ. Just because he ran fast doesn't mean anything. When you have been consistently performing poorly for the last two seasons and showing no signs of getting back that form then you can say he is getting past it.
We are not going to agree. To me it shows there's life in him particularly if he can learn to tame the need to cover every blade of grass. You don't just cast aside a talent waning or not that costs millions a year in wages and has a huge influence on the dressing room. You ease him out as has been done and give him a chance to adapt. I'd rather have a hungry Rooney on the bench than none at all. Alpinestars said:
uk66fastback said:
As an aside, Arsenal's Hector Bellerin is angling for some after-season race with Usain Bolt. HB's best time for 40m is 4.42 and he is considered (prob by himself) to be the fastest player in the Prem. If you translate that into a 100m time that is just shy of 12 seconds, which while fast would put Bolt MILES ahead ... ! ... as in 15-20m ...
What's UB's 40m time? Doesn't sound like you're comparing like with like? From a standing start, 0-40m would take longer that 40-80m. 40m-80m will be quicker yes, but then there's an amount of fade ... Bellerin doesn't train to run 100m - he doesn't need to ... and Bolt's start is not great. He's still getting into his stride after 20m ...
Bolt could run under 4secs but he could run 4.3 ...
To be fair, that Rooney sprint state is surprising. But it shows top speed, rather than acceleration. He often takes an age to start moving.
In any case, he can't dribble (at all), so all being fast means is he gets to the ball more quickly so has another opportunity to shank a pass or just walk around until he is tackled.
23 times he lost possession in the derby. 23. Almost every time he had the ball, I would guess.
In any case, he can't dribble (at all), so all being fast means is he gets to the ball more quickly so has another opportunity to shank a pass or just walk around until he is tackled.
23 times he lost possession in the derby. 23. Almost every time he had the ball, I would guess.
ORD said:
To be fair, that Rooney sprint state is surprising. But it shows top speed, rather than acceleration. He often takes an age to start moving.
In any case, he can't dribble (at all), so all being fast means is he gets to the ball more quickly so has another opportunity to shank a pass or just walk around until he is tackled.
23 times he lost possession in the derby. 23. Almost every time he had the ball, I would guess.
Although he was very quick off the mark to beat Bravo to the ball. In any case, he can't dribble (at all), so all being fast means is he gets to the ball more quickly so has another opportunity to shank a pass or just walk around until he is tackled.
23 times he lost possession in the derby. 23. Almost every time he had the ball, I would guess.
Looks to me like Rooney may be used more sparingly in the coming weeks/months. Hopefully there'll be less attention placed on him and he can start enjoying his football again. One things for sure his replacement has to deliver.
selym said:
We place way too much importance in fastest, tallest and strongest in all levels of football. This is why we are in the state we are...
I agree. There are literally THOUSANDS of people in the UK who would be faster than 99% of footballers.SO WHAT!
Usain Bolt has expressed many a time that he would like to play for Man United. He never will any more than Max Whitlock (Olympic gymnast, incredible strength and agility) will get a run out.
You can come out with all the stats you like, speed, distance covered, possession, corners and free kicks won, pass completion they really don't mean a thing as is consistently shown.
Get the ball in the back of the net, 1-0 that is a stat that matters.
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