The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 5]

[TwigtheWonderkid]

m3sye said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

From what I read (didn't see highlights, not a Manc), but I thought Pogba was meant to have been really good against Fenebache 3 days earlier. So why would you drop him. How is the manager meant to know he'd go from very good to woeful in 72 hours?

Im not manc either but playing good in the europa against some turks is not the same as in the prem..in the prem he has been nowhere near

But why drop him immediately after his first good performance? If JM hadn't played him, and Utd had still lost, everyone on here would be saying "why the hell drop Pogba, just as he's finding some form!"

Everyone is a top manager with hindsight.

[bstb3]

Hmm, so the day the Sun go with "Roo can go", the times have a piece about the United players not being happy with Mourinho's hands off and distant approach....

Anyway rumours seem to be that Bailly is not out for several months and could be back in early December which is actually quite good news, given the fears floating round on Sunday evening.

[Alpinestars]

I'm sure there will be loads of conspiracy theories to unsettle the club.

I think the team and fans need to show a united (no pun intended) front, and hopefully Maureen will be brave in his style and selection. I'd hope the fans would appreciate that and see it as work in progress.

[bstb3]

Well people are be itching for both United and Jose to fail, so it's natural I guess that elements of the press will play to that audience. Biggest show in town, even when we're poop

With Rooney I'd be surprised if he has actually been told that - it's certainly contrary to what JM's public facing message has been. Surely it would be better to have a 'motivated to get in the team' Rooney than a unhappy one, and even if his form doesn't pick up we may well need him if injuries crop up.

This might help JM actually - he used to do well with his us vs the world mentality in the dressing room, so perhaps he can leverage all this around.

I'd imagine support from the fans is pretty nailed on right now, at least for this season. The fans I speak to haven't voiced any concerns at all and just want JM to get on with things.

Edited by bstb3 on Tuesday 25th October 10:40

[anniesdad]

AIUI Mourinho has said he won't ever sell Rooney but that Rooney can't expect to be a regular starter these days (I don't think he would expect that anyway). So it's over to Rooney does he see out his playing career at United getting maybe 20 games a year some as a sub? Or does he seek out one last big contract elsewhere?

I for one hope he stays. We've not exactly been brilliant without him in the team have we? Despite massive protestation that he's slowing up play and the main architect of all that was going wrong.

[anniesdad]

bstb3 said:

Well people are be itching for both United and Jose to fail, so it's natural I guess that elements of the press will play to that audience. Biggest show in town, even when we're poop

With Rooney I'd be surprised if he has actually been told that - it's certainly contrary to what JM's public facing message has been. Surely it would be better to have a 'motivated to get in the team' Rooney than a unhappy one, and even if his form doesn't pick up we may well need him if injuries crop up.

This might help JM actually - he used to do well with his us vs the world mentality in the dressing room, so perhaps he can leverage all this around.

I'd imagine support from the fans is pretty nailed on right now, at least for this season. The fans I speak to haven't voiced any concerns at all and just want JM to get on with things.

Edited by bstb3 on Tuesday 25th October 10:40

This. ^

[franki68]

m3sye said:

Im not manc either but playing good in the europa against some turks is not the same as in the prem..in the prem he has been nowhere near

I think he's been nowhere near a 90m player ,but he's not been that awful.A few cm here and there and you'd be talking about statistically the best centre mid in the country...2 or 3 wonderful effort that have hit the bar,he's layed on at least 3 or 4 golden chances on a plate for ibra sadly not taken,

[anonymous-user]

franki68 said:

m3sye said:

Im not manc either but playing good in the europa against some turks is not the same as in the prem..in the prem he has been nowhere near

I think he's been nowhere near a 90m player ,but he's not been that awful.A few cm here and there and you'd be talking about statistically the best centre mid in the country...2 or 3 wonderful effort that have hit the bar,he's layed on at least 3 or 4 golden chances on a plate for ibra sadly not taken,

Since when were Fenerbache just 'Some Turks?'

Regarding the Pogba 'issue' I think its more to do with who we play with him, a midfield 3 with PP in it can function if all of them work hard and play together, it does not and never will work with Marouane fking Fellaini in it

[m3sye]

anonymous said:

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Keyser they are very average - they have the name like Inter do, does not mean they are any good now.....

Dont even think they are close in the crappy league they are in ....

[E63M6]

Few games now where Ibra should've scored but didn't. The Stoke, Liverpool and Chelsea misses, if he'd have scored in any of them we could be looking at different results.

[anniesdad]

It's pretty clear midfield partnerships have to work and players have to compliment each other. Finding that blend is difficult at the minute but I still can't understand how we have some midfield specialists in our squad/bench (Blind, Schneiderlin, Carrick) that get overlooked in favour of Fellaini. Let's not forget we pay Schweinsteiger huge sums of money to post on Instagram these days. I honestly think that JM see's Fellaini as some sort of Matic type of player, except Matic can actually play football.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Alpinestars said:

I can't believe that 14 years after he scored for Everton against Arsenal, a goal that we greeted with the headline "Roo Beauty", the Sun are still persisting with the "Roo" instead of "You" headline.

It never was a very rich vein of humour back in 2002, but they just can't let if go.

[Alpinestars]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I can't believe that 14 years after he scored for Everton against Arsenal, a goal that we greeted with the headline "Roo Beauty", the Sun are still persisting with the "Roo" instead of "You" headline.

It never was a very rich vein of humour back in 2002, but they just can't let if go.

It is the Sun....

[E63M6]

[anniesdad]

Amazing ^

Although between then and now we've had 2 years of Van Gaal'ness that Mourinho has to unpick.

[m3sye]

anniesdad said:

Amazing ^

Although between then and now we've had 2 years of Van Gaal'ness that Mourinho has to unpick.

Was he not on 19 points after 9 games?

[anniesdad]

Probably, he started off well enough then it went to st.

[Alpinestars]

What was Fergie's record after 9 games?

[anniesdad]

Alpinestars said:

What was Fergie's record after 9 games?

W3, L3, D3

[franki68]

E63M6 said:

Few games now where Ibra should've scored but didn't. The Stoke, Liverpool and Chelsea misses, if he'd have scored in any of them we could be looking at different results.

ifs and buts ultimately,if the refs got big decisions right we would have beaten city ,we would have had an hour to go at a ten men chelsea,wouldnt have had to chase game against watford,wouldnt have lost at feyernoord ,in fact we would be unbeaten.Very fine margins between success and failure.