The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]
Discussion
RedTrident said:
When did he want Bony?
Mr Rodgers if anything has shown that he doesn't have an eye for a player. I think if he does stay he'll have all of this taken off him this summer.
Berahino? 14 league goals this season. Would get 20 I think here. We'll get Ings because he's 'free', even though we don't aspire to play a style that will suit him.
I agree with BCM about growing your own, which is why I'd just promote Ibe rather than buy a Sterling replacement or another European winger. Also the 4th striker really should be emerging talent from the reserves imo.
Last summer, BR wanted Bony, we made an enquire but then TC didn't agree wages. one of the reasons BR may well stay is he said i want Bony, you gave me BaloMr Rodgers if anything has shown that he doesn't have an eye for a player. I think if he does stay he'll have all of this taken off him this summer.
Berahino? 14 league goals this season. Would get 20 I think here. We'll get Ings because he's 'free', even though we don't aspire to play a style that will suit him.
I agree with BCM about growing your own, which is why I'd just promote Ibe rather than buy a Sterling replacement or another European winger. Also the 4th striker really should be emerging talent from the reserves imo.
Flip Martian said:
Black can man said:
You could always give some of the youth team a chance , it does work with some clubs.
Getting Passion to play for the club is better than just buying a big name whom doesn't give a s
t. just my opinion of course.
Heaven forbid we do anything as forward planning as growing our own superstars... Getting Passion to play for the club is better than just buying a big name whom doesn't give a s
t. just my opinion of course.
One thing LFC and BR can't be accused of is not giving youth a chance, especially when you compare how many youth players have been given a chance in the last few years compared to other top 10 teams.
Cie said:
Ah well, there goes work for the next hour...jammy_basturd said:
Flip Martian said:
Black can man said:
You could always give some of the youth team a chance , it does work with some clubs.
Getting Passion to play for the club is better than just buying a big name whom doesn't give a st. just my opinion of course.
Heaven forbid we do anything as forward planning as growing our own superstars... Getting Passion to play for the club is better than just buying a big name whom doesn't give a s
t. just my opinion of course.One thing LFC and BR can't be accused of is not giving youth a chance, especially when you compare how many youth players have been given a chance in the last few years compared to other top 10 teams.
Adam B said:
TTmonkey said:
OMG you lot are a steaming pile of poo!!
Have a lovely summer bickering amongst yourselves.....
Yes we are, and I can take the piss taking from Utd or Arse fans, even Spurs fans, but laughable from an Evertonian who finished in the bottom half of the table, your worse result for 8 yearsHave a lovely summer bickering amongst yourselves.....
Edited by GloverMart on Sunday 24th May 18:11
Anything in that? Has he lost the team?
jammy_basturd said:
You mean like Flanno, Ibe, Sterling, Wisdom? Even Shelvey and Spearing were given chances before we decided they weren't what we wanted.
One thing LFC and BR can't be accused of is not giving youth a chance, especially when you compare how many youth players have been given a chance in the last few years compared to other top 10 teams.
Flanagan was brought into the team by Kenny. Lad has been very unlucky with his injuries. Sterling - well we bought him off QPR so I wasn't counting him really. Shelvey was bought in too, he wasn't one of ours. I do agree its a delicate path to tread though - pressure to be successful is such now that its much harder for youngsters to get a regular exposure in the first team unless they take their chance straight away. One thing LFC and BR can't be accused of is not giving youth a chance, especially when you compare how many youth players have been given a chance in the last few years compared to other top 10 teams.
Flip Martian said:
Cie said:
Ah well, there goes work for the next hour...
We finished second in the U21 league, so the youth set up is pretty good
1 Man Utd U21 22 11 7 4 39 23 16 40
2 Liverpool U21 22 11 3 8 45 35 10 36
3 Chelsea U21 22 10 5 7 39 27 12 35
4 Sunderland U21 22 10 5 7 26 24 2 35
5 Man City U21 22 10 3 9 44 40 4 33
6 Leicester U21 22 9 5 8 39 37 2 32
7 Norwich U21 22 8 8 6 34 32 2 32
8 Southampton U21 22 9 4 9 32 34 -2 31
9 Spurs U21 22 8 5 9 30 30 0 29
10 Everton U21 22 8 3 11 32 37 -5 27
11 Fulham U21 22 6 4 12 27 45 -18 22
12 West Ham U21 22 5 2 15 20 43 -23 17
1 Man Utd U21 22 11 7 4 39 23 16 40
2 Liverpool U21 22 11 3 8 45 35 10 36
3 Chelsea U21 22 10 5 7 39 27 12 35
4 Sunderland U21 22 10 5 7 26 24 2 35
5 Man City U21 22 10 3 9 44 40 4 33
6 Leicester U21 22 9 5 8 39 37 2 32
7 Norwich U21 22 8 8 6 34 32 2 32
8 Southampton U21 22 9 4 9 32 34 -2 31
9 Spurs U21 22 8 5 9 30 30 0 29
10 Everton U21 22 8 3 11 32 37 -5 27
11 Fulham U21 22 6 4 12 27 45 -18 22
12 West Ham U21 22 5 2 15 20 43 -23 17
SydneyBridge said:
We finished second in the U21 league, so the youth set up is pretty good
1 Man Utd U21 22 11 7 4 39 23 16 40
2 Liverpool U21 22 11 3 8 45 35 10 36
3 Chelsea U21 22 10 5 7 39 27 12 35
4 Sunderland U21 22 10 5 7 26 24 2 35
5 Man City U21 22 10 3 9 44 40 4 33
6 Leicester U21 22 9 5 8 39 37 2 32
7 Norwich U21 22 8 8 6 34 32 2 32
8 Southampton U21 22 9 4 9 32 34 -2 31
9 Spurs U21 22 8 5 9 30 30 0 29
10 Everton U21 22 8 3 11 32 37 -5 27
11 Fulham U21 22 6 4 12 27 45 -18 22
12 West Ham U21 22 5 2 15 20 43 -23 17
That means nothing1 Man Utd U21 22 11 7 4 39 23 16 40
2 Liverpool U21 22 11 3 8 45 35 10 36
3 Chelsea U21 22 10 5 7 39 27 12 35
4 Sunderland U21 22 10 5 7 26 24 2 35
5 Man City U21 22 10 3 9 44 40 4 33
6 Leicester U21 22 9 5 8 39 37 2 32
7 Norwich U21 22 8 8 6 34 32 2 32
8 Southampton U21 22 9 4 9 32 34 -2 31
9 Spurs U21 22 8 5 9 30 30 0 29
10 Everton U21 22 8 3 11 32 37 -5 27
11 Fulham U21 22 6 4 12 27 45 -18 22
12 West Ham U21 22 5 2 15 20 43 -23 17
Cie said:
Flip Martian said:
Cie said:
Ah well, there goes work for the next hour...SydneyBridge said:
talking of Bony and Remy, they have hardly played for City/Chelsea and have not set the world on fire so I don't think they would have done any better for us.
To be fair though, Sydney, both Chelsea and Man City play one up front in a 4-2-3-1 formation and with Chelsea having Costa and City having Aguero, neither Bony or Remy were ever going to play 38 games this season as they weren't first choice. Remy ended up with 9 goals from 29 appearances, almost one in three with many appearances coming off the bench. Costa, I'd disagree that he has set the world on fire and has appeared in a lot of people's EPL Team of the Season. He scored 20 goals in 37 games and towards the end, was playing unfit at times.
GloverMart said:
To be fair though, Sydney, both Chelsea and Man City play one up front in a 4-2-3-1 formation and with Chelsea having Costa and City having Aguero, neither Bony or Remy were ever going to play 38 games this season as they weren't first choice.
Remy ended up with 9 goals from 29 appearances, almost one in three with many appearances coming off the bench. Costa, I'd disagree that he has set the world on fire and has appeared in a lot of people's EPL Team of the Season. He scored 20 goals in 37 games and towards the end, was playing unfit at times.
Yeah - fair comment, did not realise Remy had scored so many. Either of them would have played a lot more games for us than City/Chelsea but yes agree that they both bought as second/third choice strikersRemy ended up with 9 goals from 29 appearances, almost one in three with many appearances coming off the bench. Costa, I'd disagree that he has set the world on fire and has appeared in a lot of people's EPL Team of the Season. He scored 20 goals in 37 games and towards the end, was playing unfit at times.
I think this season will tell us if FSG really are that interested in breaking into the top 4 - we don't have to get in there anymore to make the revenue they probably foretasted when they bought the club. I think you can finish bottom now and earn more than the champions league winners of 2 years ago... so finish 5th 6th, get stadium done then potentially sell ?? if that is there plan then there is no way they will sack BR. The TV money is now that high that it doesn't matter if you win or get top 4 we can still out bid (if we wanted too) any other none Billionaire backed club. (except Barca/Madrid).
You look at Ashley at Newcastle - if he really doesn't care about finishing 5th 6th why bother spending - he gets 100m for finishing 16th - you don't have to be successful anymore to earn mega money .
You look at Ashley at Newcastle - if he really doesn't care about finishing 5th 6th why bother spending - he gets 100m for finishing 16th - you don't have to be successful anymore to earn mega money .
m3sye said:
I think this season will tell us if FSG really are that interested in breaking into the top 4 - we don't have to get in there anymore to make the revenue they probably foretasted when they bought the club. I think you can finish bottom now and earn more than the champions league winners of 2 years ago... so finish 5th 6th, get stadium done then potentially sell ?? if that is there plan then there is no way they will sack BR. The TV money is now that high that it doesn't matter if you win or get top 4 we can still out bid (if we wanted too) any other none Billionaire backed club. (except Barca/Madrid).
You look at Ashley at Newcastle - if he really doesn't care about finishing 5th 6th why bother spending - he gets 100m for finishing 16th - you don't have to be successful anymore to earn mega money .
Reading this it is all actually a little bit saddening isn't it!?You look at Ashley at Newcastle - if he really doesn't care about finishing 5th 6th why bother spending - he gets 100m for finishing 16th - you don't have to be successful anymore to earn mega money .
If FSG are just after making money and had a forecast then like you say, we don't really need to bang in performances on the pitch to get a certain league position.
Sad times for football really when we all crave for that bit of silverware or at least a shot at it.
curlie467 said:
m3sye said:
I think this season will tell us if FSG really are that interested in breaking into the top 4 - we don't have to get in there anymore to make the revenue they probably foretasted when they bought the club. I think you can finish bottom now and earn more than the champions league winners of 2 years ago... so finish 5th 6th, get stadium done then potentially sell ?? if that is there plan then there is no way they will sack BR. The TV money is now that high that it doesn't matter if you win or get top 4 we can still out bid (if we wanted too) any other none Billionaire backed club. (except Barca/Madrid).
You look at Ashley at Newcastle - if he really doesn't care about finishing 5th 6th why bother spending - he gets 100m for finishing 16th - you don't have to be successful anymore to earn mega money .
Reading this it is all actually a little bit saddening isn't it!?You look at Ashley at Newcastle - if he really doesn't care about finishing 5th 6th why bother spending - he gets 100m for finishing 16th - you don't have to be successful anymore to earn mega money .
If FSG are just after making money and had a forecast then like you say, we don't really need to bang in performances on the pitch to get a certain league position.
Sad times for football really when we all crave for that bit of silverware or at least a shot at it.
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