The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

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SydneyBridge

8,668 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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I really wonder whether its him or his agent or both - but what a pair of tits...

Flip Martian

19,725 posts

191 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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SydneyBridge said:
I really wonder whether its him or his agent or both - but what a pair of tits...
Totally and utterly. They're both losing out and the latest reports this morning from the agent saying how Sterling has no faith in BR etc etc...beyond desperation clearly. Textbook how NOT to exit a club. No doubt LFC will be glad to sell but only on their terms and not the agent's. And that means the price being right. As with the first Suarez stand off, I actually love how FSG handle this. The club has the upper hand, that's how it should be. NO club should be dictated to by a player or his agent.

SydneyBridge

8,668 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Saurez proved himself one of the best players in the world before we sold him (bans excepting)

Raheem has talent and promise but nothing else at the moment, he had an average season (as did the rest of the team to be fair though...)

type-r

14,143 posts

214 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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NRS said:
If you assume a new contract of £100 000 a week that he might have been offered, and a start date from April when he said he rejected a contract then it's around £1.2M he's already lost by not signing a new contract.
Possibly, though I suspect it was done so that it would attract a lower transfer fee for the buying club who in term would supplement his "loss" with a commensurate signing-on fee.

airweaz

250 posts

118 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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I do love FSG selling style. Its very much "you do this as we see fit, when the right money comes and we are happy off you go"

A long time of baseball dealings will have taught them this. Also does Aidy Ward really fancy taking on a bunch of FSG legal bods. I doubt it.

He knows full well if he makes the request he loses a ton of money once a transfer request is put in.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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m3sye said:
RedTrident said:
We should buy Berahino instead of Benteke. Suits our style better.
What would you say to Benteke & Pedro?
If we could get Pedro I'd pass on Benteke. If we were to buy Pedro, with the players we already have, we'll most likely play 433 with Pedro and Firmino either side of a central striker - Sturridge or even Mario would flourish here I think. Play Coutinho/Lallana in attacking midfield with Milner/Henderson and Can/Lucas behind and I think that's more than a good enough midfield and attack to compete for top 4. You've also got depth with Lazer, Origi, Ings and even Allen.

The only reason I'd buy Benteke is if Mario was leaving and it was a straight swap.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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RedTrident said:
If we could get Pedro I'd pass on Benteke. If we were to buy Pedro, with the players we already have, we'll most likely play 433 with Pedro and Firmino either side of a central striker - Sturridge or even Mario would flourish here I think. Play Coutinho/Lallana in attacking midfield with Milner/Henderson and Can/Lucas behind and I think that's more than a good enough midfield and attack to compete for top 4. You've also got depth with Lazer, Origi, Ings and even Allen.

The only reason I'd buy Benteke is if Mario was leaving and it was a straight swap.
Maruo has to be going for me - will be off on loan

Why leave Benteke if they are willing to buy both ?? surely we are in a much better position having quality cover in ALL positions. ? If they are willing to buy both go get them.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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RedTrident said:
If we could get Pedro I'd pass on Benteke. If we were to buy Pedro, with the players we already have, we'll most likely play 433 with Pedro and Firmino either side of a central striker - Sturridge or even Mario would flourish here I think. Play Coutinho/Lallana in attacking midfield with Milner/Henderson and Can/Lucas behind and I think that's more than a good enough midfield and attack to compete for top 4. You've also got depth with Lazer, Origi, Ings and even Allen.

The only reason I'd buy Benteke is if Mario was leaving and it was a straight swap.
Surely you don't mean straight swap financially?!

And Firmino and Pedro supporting one of the most immobile strikers in the league? They'd be 20 yards ahead of Mario on every break.

Challo

10,221 posts

156 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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airweaz said:
I do love FSG selling style. Its very much "you do this as we see fit, when the right money comes and we are happy off you go"

A long time of baseball dealings will have taught them this. Also does Aidy Ward really fancy taking on a bunch of FSG legal bods. I doubt it.

He knows full well if he makes the request he loses a ton of money once a transfer request is put in.
How much money do you think he would lose handing a transfer request? Does that mean Liverpool have to sell him?

Surely with the amount of money he could earn at City then handing the request in is the easy way out.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

179 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Unless Rodgers is prepared to change his system, Benteke would just be sitting on his 'arris on the bench. He won't want that just before the Euros.

Can't see Benteke joining Liverpool this season, or Brendan using him to best effect. Maybe post-Brendan or post-Euros.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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jammy_basturd said:
RedTrident said:
If we could get Pedro I'd pass on Benteke. If we were to buy Pedro, with the players we already have, we'll most likely play 433 with Pedro and Firmino either side of a central striker - Sturridge or even Mario would flourish here I think. Play Coutinho/Lallana in attacking midfield with Milner/Henderson and Can/Lucas behind and I think that's more than a good enough midfield and attack to compete for top 4. You've also got depth with Lazer, Origi, Ings and even Allen.

The only reason I'd buy Benteke is if Mario was leaving and it was a straight swap.
Surely you don't mean straight swap financially?!

And Firmino and Pedro supporting one of the most immobile strikers in the league? They'd be 20 yards ahead of Mario on every break.
I meant swap as in striker for striker. And I've seen Benteke play. He's immobile in his own way. A 433 with Firmino and Pedro wouldn't really have many high balls swung in to make the best of them.

Mario is a much much better player than he was for us last season. I'm sure Benteke has his strengths but the way we play and the players we've signed/are signing won't bring the best out of him.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

NRS

22,240 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Flip Martian said:
Totally and utterly. They're both losing out and the latest reports this morning from the agent saying how Sterling has no faith in BR etc etc...beyond desperation clearly. Textbook how NOT to exit a club. No doubt LFC will be glad to sell but only on their terms and not the agent's. And that means the price being right. As with the first Suarez stand off, I actually love how FSG handle this. The club has the upper hand, that's how it should be. NO club should be dictated to by a player or his agent.
We've done very well not being forced to sell "stars". The main problem has been when players don't want to leave, then we're stuck with them (Borini).

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Looks like Macca is going to get the job: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33456515

Flip Martian

19,725 posts

191 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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NRS said:
We've done very well not being forced to sell "stars". The main problem has been when players don't want to leave, then we're stuck with them (Borini).
Fair point, too.

Flip Martian

19,725 posts

191 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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jammy_basturd said:
Looks like Macca is going to get the job: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33456515
Bloody good news I'd say. A great guy to have on the team I would have thought.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Flip Martian said:
jammy_basturd said:
Looks like Macca is going to get the job: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33456515
Bloody good news I'd say. A great guy to have on the team I would have thought.
Yup, really pleased with the staff changes this summer, especially this one. Stevie said Macca played a big part in shaping the player he became.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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DSLiverpool

14,780 posts

203 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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Pity we can't get RvP for a season - he hasn't lost it he just hates LvG. One thing Bren is good at is loving his players .... Sometimes unrequited however.

type-r

14,143 posts

214 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
One thing Bren is good at is loving his players .... Sometimes unrequited however.
He didn't love Reina and Agger. He has a ruthless side to him that once crossed for whatever reason, there is no going back.

So Hendo getting the armband - right choice?
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