The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

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cerb4.5lee

30,189 posts

179 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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n_const said:
SydneyBridge said:
Quiz, which premier league manager are you.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33609642

Me - Brendan
Brendan also.

"You are confident you know best – but you’ve not quite proven yourself at the very highest level yet"
I came out as Brendan too...I think I will keep my mouth shut from now on when it comes to criticising him!

GloverMart

11,773 posts

214 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Brendan, is that you?

Sometimes ruthless, sometimes democratic, you can make the tough decisions , even if occasionally you get them wrong. You are confident you know best – but you’ve not quite proven yourself at the very highest level yet.

Flip Martian

19,504 posts

189 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I got Brendan too. That's it! We'll definitely win the Prem this season now. laugh

DuncanM

6,109 posts

278 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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GloverMart said:
Brendan, is that you?

Sometimes ruthless, sometimes democratic, you can make the tough decisions , even if occasionally you get them wrong. You are confident you know best – but you’ve not quite proven yourself at the very highest level yet.
Got exactly the same, 73 -100 smile

m3sye

26,231 posts

200 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Cie

18,752 posts

192 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Jose, is that you? You’re ruthless, cunning and won’t let anything get in the way of your team succeeding.
You scored 95 out of 100

cool

NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Am I the only one to match with RT?

Jose, is that you? You’re ruthless, cunning and won’t let anything get in the way of your team succeeding.
You scored 95 out of 100

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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m3sye said:
Comparing Lambert, an honest but limited striker at the end of his career, is not the same as a genuine Italian international. Just look at the record Mario came to us with in his previous season.

I think that bar perhaps Coutinho and a hot and cold Sterling, the entire team failed last season. Of the players we brought in I thought Lazer and Lovren were far far worse and have shown even less than Mario.

I don't think Mr Rodgers ever wanted Mario and the outcome of the way he tried to play him and it failing, at the very least, is a reflection on both of them.



RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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jammy_basturd

29,776 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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RedTrident said:
Just look at the record Mario came to us with in his previous season.
Quite. Just look at it. I'm guessing you've not RT, otherwise you wouldn't be advocating such a thing in favour of Balotelli.

Whilst with AC Milan, in a team set up to get the best out of him, Mario scored just 12 outfield goals in the space of one and a half seasons.

I would hate for Brendan to have changed our whole squads philosophy just to try and get the best out of a striker with such incredible stats. He was the wrong signing 12 months ago and still is 12 months later.

NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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RedTrident said:
I don't think Mr Rodgers ever wanted Mario and the outcome of the way he tried to play him and it failing, at the very least, is a reflection on both of them.
I was going to reply to this, but think it's summed up best below. Rodgers showed he is willing to set his team up behind a incredible talent to get the best of him. However Balo is absolutely not a Suarez, and so to set your team up behind a 8 goal a season striker would be madness (we had Gerrard to take free kicks so ignore his goals from those).

jammy_basturd said:
Quite. Just look at it. I'm guessing you've not RT, otherwise you wouldn't be advocating such a thing in favour of Balotelli.

Whilst with AC Milan, in a team set up to get the best out of him, Mario scored just 12 outfield goals in the space of one and a half seasons.

I would hate for Brendan to have changed our whole squads philosophy just to try and get the best out of a striker with such incredible stats. He was the wrong signing 12 months ago and still is 12 months later.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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I don't think playing with 2 strikers is such an issue. Our successful season previously was playing 2 strikers.

I hope he stays. I'm not convinced Benteke can play as a lone forward nor that Sturridge can be relied on. Ings and Origi are nothing more than squad fillers to be used as bit part players to ease over playing our 1st choice forwards.

Mario scored 14 league goals in 30 games the season before he came to us. Those are the stats. Trying to present them as something else is bizarre.

If he goes he goes. If he stays I hope he gets a genuine chance to play in a front 2.

jammy_basturd

29,776 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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RedTrident said:
Mario scored 14 league goals in 30 games the season before he came to us. Those are the stats. Trying to present them as something else is bizarre.
It is bizarre, but if anyone is guilty of mis-representing the stats it is you. You've taken just his league goals for one season as it make him look better than he is. From the stats you present you may think he's a 1 goal every 2 games striker, which is the same as Benteke's record. The reality is he isn't.

I'd prefer Ings as backup. Seems to be much more hungry for the ball, much more potential, suits our style perfectly. He's just not as fashionable as he has a lower FIFA score!

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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We disagree. That's fine. You're the one that introduced the stats so I just looked at his league record the season before he joined us.

I'm comfortable in my position that Mario is a very good striker and what we saw last season is well below his level.

I've seen Ings play, particularly since the rumours mid season that we were in for him. I think he'll be the new Borini. Hard working but in the end lacks the quality we need to break in to the top 4. I don't think we'd have bought him if he was still in contract.

All said and done, of the strikers we have left, I'd rather we get rid of Borini first and wish Lambert well.


Glenred

8,461 posts

205 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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RedTrident said:
Mario scored 14 league goals in 30 games the season before he came to us. Those are the stats. Trying to present them as something else is bizarre.
hehe



NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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RedTrident said:
We disagree. That's fine. You're the one that introduced the stats so I just looked at his league record the season before he joined us.

I'm comfortable in my position that Mario is a very good striker and what we saw last season is well below his level.

I've seen Ings play, particularly since the rumours mid season that we were in for him. I think he'll be the new Borini. Hard working but in the end lacks the quality we need to break in to the top 4. I don't think we'd have bought him if he was still in contract.

All said and done, of the strikers we have left, I'd rather we get rid of Borini first and wish Lambert well.
You're the person always complaining about buying one season wonders! Look at his record before that. He's not a one in two striker unless he is taking free kicks. When we had Gerrard he wasn't going to be doing that.

Good summary about him below. His discipline improved a lot, but he was still slowing down the team whenever he got the ball, and made a few defensive mistakes too. Not a player to build our team around. You're effectively arguing for the transfer committee - sorry, computer says he's a great striker because of last season's goals! Buy buy buy!

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/08/mario-balo...

jammy_basturd

29,776 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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NRS said:
You're the person always complaining about buying one season wonders! Look at his record before that. He's not a one in two striker unless he is taking free kicks. When we had Gerrard he wasn't going to be doing that.
Or penalties. He has an amazing penalty record. But the flip side is that penalties make up exactly half of 28 goal haul whilst at AC!

RedTrident

8,290 posts

234 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Glen. How you been? What'd you reckon about the coming season? Clyne, Milner, Firminho, Benteke


pinchmeimdreamin

9,837 posts

217 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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Why is Danny Ings being labelled a squad filler?

He's 23, Proven to score in the Premiership and keen to improve. who's to say he isn't the next big thing ?

Glenred

8,461 posts

205 months

Saturday 1st August 2015
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RedTrident said:
Glen. How you been? What'd you reckon about the coming season? Clyne, Milner, Firminho, Benteke
I'm good thanks Raja, you?

I think we might struggle this season again. Not convinced our midfield is strong enough or our defence.

We need to start well and watching our pre season games, I'm not inspired. This one tonight is another one that's hard to watch!

Think we've bought well on the whole, but they need to gel quickly on the pitch.

Also I hope we have a decent free kick taker this season and Heno is going to automatically take them just because he's captain.
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