The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

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type-r

14,097 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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curlie467 said:
There's a handful writing off Utd here, I wouldn't to be honest. Nailed on top 4 for them as with City, Chelsea and Arsenal like I said.

I still can't believe that people think we would be the ones waiting to capitalise on another teams failure, have you seen the way we can fk it up season after season!
We will have another frustrating season of strange line ups, tactics and players out of position.

5th if we have a bloody good season IMO.

If anyone hadn't noticed, I am not optimistic.
City looked terrible in pre-season - looked ordinary against Madrid. They have replaced Dzeko with Sterling as a striker (lol) and still look vulnerable defensively. United haven't resolved their central defence issues nor replaced Van Persie or Falcao. Long way to go in the transfer window but right now, these teams still have some work to do. Right now, I wouldn't count out a top 4 finish.

curlie467

7,650 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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type-r said:
City looked terrible in pre-season - looked ordinary against Madrid. They have replaced Dzeko with Sterling as a striker (lol) and still look vulnerable defensively. United haven't resolved their central defence issues nor replaced Van Persie or Falcao. Long way to go in the transfer window but right now, these teams still have some work to do. Right now, I wouldn't count out a top 4 finish.
Well I hope you are right and I am wrong! beer

ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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One last foray in to the market? From BBC gossip:

The Reds have been cleared to complete the signing of Alexandre Lacazette, 24, after Lyon reportedly told the striker he can leave. (L'Equipe)

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Article/Lacazette-c...

Flip Martian

19,709 posts

191 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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type-r said:
City looked terrible in pre-season - looked ordinary against Madrid. They have replaced Dzeko with Sterling as a striker (lol) and still look vulnerable defensively. United haven't resolved their central defence issues nor replaced Van Persie or Falcao. Long way to go in the transfer window but right now, these teams still have some work to do. Right now, I wouldn't count out a top 4 finish.
If Citeh are really daft enough to play Sterling as a striker this season, they are doomed.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Flip Martian said:
If Citeh are really daft enough to play Sterling as a striker this season, they are doomed.
Not quite
If they play him up there he won't be there main man like he had to be for us a few times..aguero or Bony would and he would play off them which he will do very well.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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m3sye said:
Flip Martian said:
If Citeh are really daft enough to play Sterling as a striker this season, they are doomed.
Not quite
If they play him up there he won't be there main man like he had to be for us a few times..aguero or Bony would and he would play off them which he will do very well.
Yep...easily gets 10 goals and 10 assists this season.

NRS

22,202 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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ferrisbueller said:
One last foray in to the market? From BBC gossip:

The Reds have been cleared to complete the signing of Alexandre Lacazette, 24, after Lyon reportedly told the striker he can leave. (L'Equipe)

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Article/Lacazette-c...
It could be the opposite of last season! Instead of Sterling on his own who can't hit the goal we could have Benteke, Lacazette and Sturridge up front! Lot of potential for goals in that. If we do get him there's only one strategy we can play (probably even if we don't) - one or five more goals than they score against us!

curlie467 said:
type-r said:
City looked terrible in pre-season - looked ordinary against Madrid. They have replaced Dzeko with Sterling as a striker (lol) and still look vulnerable defensively. United haven't resolved their central defence issues nor replaced Van Persie or Falcao. Long way to go in the transfer window but right now, these teams still have some work to do. Right now, I wouldn't count out a top 4 finish.
Well I hope you are right and I am wrong! beer
I don't think people are writing them off at all. However Man U won a lot of games because of a great keeper, and won a lot of games playing badly. If they get the other side of "luck" in games like that they're potentially in trouble for CL. There hasn't been many new players who would really improve the team. City are aging and weren't that great last season, with no new players who really improve things (Sterling might do well but he's just one player). Chelsea haven't done much signings but are probably too good, Arsenal probably should be very good but are Arsenal, so you never know. I think most here are expecting 5th with the players needing to settle etc, but see the potential of a few teams to struggle giving us a chance if we do well.

Edited by NRS on Wednesday 5th August 22:46

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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London424 said:
m3sye said:
Flip Martian said:
If Citeh are really daft enough to play Sterling as a striker this season, they are doomed.
Not quite
If they play him up there he won't be there main man like he had to be for us a few times..aguero or Bony would and he would play off them which he will do very well.
Yep...easily gets 10 goals and 10 assists this season.
I can't imagine many defenders would fancy coming up against Sterling and Aguero together.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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NRS said:
There hasn't been many new players who would really improve the team.
Sorry but this is nonsense

Last season we had to play Rooney in midfield and Valencia at RB

We've now got Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger as midfield options and what looks to be a very talented RB. We've also signed the top scorer in the Dutch league who looks to be a special talent and the Argentinian national GK.

As for replacing Falcao, he needed replacing?

Black can man

31,845 posts

169 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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desolate said:
I can't imagine many defenders would fancy coming up against Sterling and Aguero together.
Especially with Silva pulling the strings ,

NRS

22,202 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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If we get Lacazette my team for the season... wink

343

Mignolet
Gomez, Škrtel, Moreno
Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana, Ibe
Lacazette, Benteke, Sturridge

Who cares about defence? laugh

NRS

22,202 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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anonymous said:
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New keeper - don't think you can improve much on last season - De Gea was very good and often the player who kept you in games from what I read. So he is more of a backup in case De Gea moves to Madrid.

Schweinsteiger is a big injury risk with the last 3 seasons he's had. Good player if he can avoid that - but you can say the same about Sturridge but it didn't help us last season.

Schneiderlin should be very good provided he settles/ gets played right.

Depay could be an excellent buy, but have to see if he steps up.

I guess I understated the new players you have, but it does seem to be a pretty quiet window considering the buying power you, City and Chelsea have.

Black can man

31,845 posts

169 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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NRS said:
New keeper - don't think you can improve much on last season - De Gea was very good and often the player who kept you in games from what I read. So he is more of a backup in case De Gea moves to Madrid.

Schweinsteiger is a big injury risk with the last 3 seasons he's had. Good player if he can avoid that - but you can say the same about Sturridge but it didn't help us last season.

Schneiderlin should be very good provided he settles/ gets played right.

Depay could be an excellent buy, but have to see if he steps up.

I guess I understated the new players you have, but it does seem to be a pretty quiet window considering the buying power you, City and Chelsea have.
There's another 25 days to go & The big boys with the big cheque books would be really stupid if they just went out & spent willy nilly for the sake of a couple of games.

The smaller teams that want to offload will panic & the big teams will get their targets at a much keener price.

You have also forgotten Utd have signed Matteo Darmian who looks an excellent player , I'm struggling to see how many of you on here think that Utd haven't strengthened , i think they have done by far the best business of the summer so far.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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NRS said:
If we get Lacazette my team for the season... wink

343

Mignolet
Gomez, Škrtel, Moreno
Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana, Ibe
Lacazette, Benteke, Sturridge

Who cares about defence? laugh
Pure paper talk.. Our buying is done for the year

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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NRS said:
New keeper - don't think you can improve much on last season - De Gea was very good and often the player who kept you in games from what I read. So he is more of a backup in case De Gea moves to Madrid.

Schweinsteiger is a big injury risk with the last 3 seasons he's had. Good player if he can avoid that - but you can say the same about Sturridge but it didn't help us last season.

Schneiderlin should be very good provided he settles/ gets played right.

Depay could be an excellent buy, but have to see if he steps up.

I guess I understated the new players you have, but it does seem to be a pretty quiet window considering the buying power you, City and Chelsea have.
We'd definitely keep DDG if we could but its out of our hands really.

Interestingly we've both bought very similarly.

Young promising RB
Young promising winger
Slightly older midfielder

You're a striker ahead of us at the moment smile

Defence is interesting, an area of concern for both teams yet neither has bought a CB yet.



Flip Martian

19,709 posts

191 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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m3sye said:
Flip Martian said:
If Citeh are really daft enough to play Sterling as a striker this season, they are doomed.
Not quite
If they play him up there he won't be there main man like he had to be for us a few times..aguero or Bony would and he would play off them which he will do very well.
Well the inference was with Sterling replacing Dzeko, that he would be a main striker - hence my comment. We all know he's not a main striker. They woul dhave been very silly to buy him to replace Dzeko directly.

revrange

1,182 posts

185 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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type-r said:
City looked terrible in pre-season - looked ordinary against Madrid. They have replaced Dzeko with Sterling as a striker (lol) and still look vulnerable defensively. United haven't resolved their central defence issues nor replaced Van Persie or Falcao. Long way to go in the transfer window but right now, these teams still have some work to do. Right now, I wouldn't count out a top 4 finish.
Problem is having the right players accessible without paying excess fees. I think City haven't addressed their main failings. Yes Sterling will help them break down sides, but their biggest failing was against other top teams, and a wide open midfield. Yaya needs replacing, and they haven't done that.

Utd have added well, I think Depay will be a player. But like use still have a poor defence, and if De Gea goes that is a major blow. Plus they still need a striker. Centre of midfield will be much stronger this year so i guess may hide some of the problems in defence.

Chelsea i guess just plan to add Stone as a long term JT replacement.

BlackST

9,080 posts

166 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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4 days to go till our first game.

1. Where will we finish?
2. Who will be our stand out player this season?
3. Who will score more Benteke or Sturridge?

kentlad

1,089 posts

184 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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BlackST said:
4 days to go till our first game.

1. Where will we finish?
2. Who will be our stand out player this season?
3. Who will score more Benteke or Sturridge?
5th
Milner
Benteke (Sturridge will be dogged by injuries, again)

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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Benteke has to get 20 goals this season for me. Any return from Sturridge is a bonus.

I think Milner will show us all why we made a mistake the last 2 seasons trying to play Gerrard in some quarter back role. He'll bring experience, leadership and consistency. I had doubts that he could just slot in to a position that he hasn't played in for a long time but it seems he'll do well in centre midfield.

I hope Ibe will emerge as a genuine first team player and score 10 goals whilst creating 10 more.

My anxiety remians

- the centre of defence
- whether our midfield is defensively strong enough
- how we plan to get the most out of our attacking talent with possibly at least 3 players suiting the no 10 role.

It's a building season for me, one where we develop as a team and develop a style of play that we can use to push on next season.
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