The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]
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type-r said:
Balotelli having medical at AC Milan ahead of a loan move. No loan fee and Liverpool paying part of his wages.
Milan are laughing.
Why? Have they seen him play? Just hope they don't look at how many shots he had last season and how many were on target!Milan are laughing.
Yeah, we cocked up, but we'll be getting the best of any deal that sees him leave.
jammy_basturd said:
We've traded attacking threat for defensive organisation. I'm sure once we've got going a bit, in the "easier" games we'll play a bit more attacking, maybe even two up front, but at the moment you can't have it both ways.
Apparently, Mignolet now has the most number of clean sheets in the Premiership in 2015.
You are right, of course there is a fine line between defence and attack. And we need to get our house in order before going to war.Apparently, Mignolet now has the most number of clean sheets in the Premiership in 2015.
However, I said during last night's game we are missing one quality player. Whilst Sturridge is mentioned, I think what we are really missing is that General, a power player, someone directing proceedings. We have a few mini-captains on the pitch (Henderson, Milner, Skrtel) but we lack that one power player. Neville talks about it in the context of Arsenal in this great piece below; I think the same applies to us.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29326/99647...
type-r said:
You are right, of course there is a fine line between defence and attack. And we need to get our house in order before going to war.
However, I said during last night's game we are missing one quality player. Whilst Sturridge is mentioned, I think what we are really missing is that General, a power player, someone directing proceedings. We have a few mini-captains on the pitch (Henderson, Milner, Skrtel) but we lack that one power player. Neville talks about it in the context of Arsenal in this great piece below; I think the same applies to us.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29326/99647...
I agree, we've not quite got that spine yet. I think we're good enough to get top four, but (sadly) I don't think we're going to have a tilt at the title with Henderson as captain, though I hope he proves me wrong. Maybe Can will turn into our midfield general, and Lovren will step up and be the rock in defence...However, I said during last night's game we are missing one quality player. Whilst Sturridge is mentioned, I think what we are really missing is that General, a power player, someone directing proceedings. We have a few mini-captains on the pitch (Henderson, Milner, Skrtel) but we lack that one power player. Neville talks about it in the context of Arsenal in this great piece below; I think the same applies to us.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29326/99647...
RedTrident said:
type-r said:
Balotelli having medical at AC Milan ahead of a loan move. No loan fee and Liverpool paying part of his wages.
Milan are laughing.
I cannot believe someone hasn't been sacked for this. Milan are laughing.
That TC way of working has now been ditched, we are told. So presumably someone was either sacked or duties reassigned/they were disciplined - we are unlikely to know. A company doesn't have a big reorganisation like that over such an important part of the business, without someone taking the blame.
Balotelli seems to have quickly showed he wasn't prepared to do what was required to get in the team and stay there. So BR wants rid, so he can spend more time on the positive group of players who DO want to move forward together. We're left with a player now unattractive to most possible bidders, and want as much of his salary off the books as poss. Indications are that Milan will pay half his salary, we pay half. Paying 40k a week for a failed gamble is better than paying 80k a week, assuming no-one wants to buy/he doesn't want to move for less than he's on now.
curlie467 said:
More than happy with that. 3 games, 2 wins and a draw.
Our first 7 away games are the worst start you could imagine so to have 4 points from the first 2 is fantastic!
That said, the first game away was the "easy" one in that Stoke are a good team and we have the scars from last season, but in *theory* we should be beating them (at least compared to the 2nd to 7th away games). But yes, a good start. Interesting to see how this "defensive" team works - not 100% sure we have the players to properly pull it off, but done well so far with a bit of luck from the referees!Our first 7 away games are the worst start you could imagine so to have 4 points from the first 2 is fantastic!
type-r said:
You are right, of course there is a fine line between defence and attack. And we need to get our house in order before going to war.
However, I said during last night's game we are missing one quality player. Whilst Sturridge is mentioned, I think what we are really missing is that General, a power player, someone directing proceedings. We have a few mini-captains on the pitch (Henderson, Milner, Skrtel) but we lack that one power player. Neville talks about it in the context of Arsenal in this great piece below; I think the same applies to us.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29326/99647...
Thing is it's probably best not to risk this season on a big gamble of trying to get that person/ playing them. We have a lot of new players and need to bed them in together. After last season the team needs time to settle and find out who are the ones that work and who needs replaced. At the end of this season we will have a better idea, and hopefully a stronger squad that means we can see the positions that need most strengthening and spend bigger on a few quality players now we have a bigger squad. Changing too much will just create bigger problems.However, I said during last night's game we are missing one quality player. Whilst Sturridge is mentioned, I think what we are really missing is that General, a power player, someone directing proceedings. We have a few mini-captains on the pitch (Henderson, Milner, Skrtel) but we lack that one power player. Neville talks about it in the context of Arsenal in this great piece below; I think the same applies to us.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29326/99647...
RedTrident said:
type-r said:
Balotelli having medical at AC Milan ahead of a loan move. No loan fee and Liverpool paying part of his wages.
Milan are laughing.
I cannot believe someone hasn't been sacked for this. Milan are laughing.
Flip Martian said:
RedTrident said:
type-r said:
Balotelli having medical at AC Milan ahead of a loan move. No loan fee and Liverpool paying part of his wages.
Milan are laughing.
I cannot believe someone hasn't been sacked for this. Milan are laughing.
That TC way of working has now been ditched, we are told. So presumably someone was either sacked or duties reassigned/they were disciplined - we are unlikely to know. A company doesn't have a big reorganisation like that over such an important part of the business, without someone taking the blame.
I hadn't realised that the transfer committee of working had been ditched. Though I agree with you that someone has clearly been held accountable, even if we don't know who.
I'm over Mario, wish the lad well and move on. We've wasted more money in the past and no doubt will do again in the future.
I was genuinely emotional when Lucas took his shin pads off and clapped the fans before leaving the field. It didn't surprise me that Arsenal looked more dangerous when he was subbed.
RedTrident said:
I'm over Mario, wish the lad well and move on. We've wasted more money in the past and no doubt will do again in the future.
Practically flushed £16m down the toilet. How can clubs waste money like this? I just cannot believe what effectively amounts to financial mismanagement.Next year he will be back 2 years into a 3 year contract and can start talking to other clubs. No doubt he will go out on loan again until his contract runs down, when he will leave on a free. All I can picture is that big Mario smile. To paraphrase a famous quote, the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he was a footballer.
RedTrident said:
I was genuinely emotional when Lucas took his shin pads off and clapped the fans before leaving the field. It didn't surprise me that Arsenal looked more dangerous when he was subbed.
According to Rodgers, he is "the best defensive midfielder we have" and is going nowhere:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/foot...
From what I understand the TC hasn't been scrapped entirely, but it's been severely shaken up, with BR taking a much more prominent role and his input carries much more weight. That's what I've read, to be honest I don't really care how it works, as long as we have more windows like this summer and less like last summer!
I think when we bought Balo, we'd dilly-dallied regarding Bony and then lost out to City, considered Benteke, but thought he was too expensive, and left with Eto'o and Balo. What a choice!
As for Lucas in the Arsenal game, he was clearly tiring and Arsenal had been looking more dangerous for a good 5-10 minutes before he came off. However I do hope that he stays and completely agree that he's invaluable in certain games.
I think when we bought Balo, we'd dilly-dallied regarding Bony and then lost out to City, considered Benteke, but thought he was too expensive, and left with Eto'o and Balo. What a choice!
As for Lucas in the Arsenal game, he was clearly tiring and Arsenal had been looking more dangerous for a good 5-10 minutes before he came off. However I do hope that he stays and completely agree that he's invaluable in certain games.
type-r said:
RedTrident said:
I'm over Mario, wish the lad well and move on. We've wasted more money in the past and no doubt will do again in the future.
Practically flushed £16m down the toilet. How can clubs waste money like this? I just cannot believe what effectively amounts to financial mismanagement.Next year he will be back 2 years into a 3 year contract and can start talking to other clubs. No doubt he will go out on loan again until his contract runs down, when he will leave on a free. All I can picture is that big Mario smile. To paraphrase a famous quote, the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he was a footballer.
High risk, high reward.
Bit like the oil industry - people complain when they make billions of pounds of profit (and that they should pay more in tax/ it's immoral etc). Yet they don't say anything when the companies are making big loses now (no tax discount etc). If you want a safer risk picture go for something like supermarkets instead.
jammy_basturd said:
I think when we bought Balo, we'd dilly-dallied regarding Bony and then lost out to City, considered Benteke, but thought he was too expensive, and left with Eto'o and Balo. What a choice!
We also tried to sign Sanchez and Remy. So Balo was probably 4th choice at best. PC v Arsenal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAXgAVDEFlM
JG v Arsenal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59k-rM2bN0U
JG v Arsenal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59k-rM2bN0U
RedTrident said:
I was always led to believe that Mr Rodgers has final say though I agree it's difficult for him really to have a say if the shortlist is someone else's. I don't recall who his choices were that summer, perhaps you do?
I don't but I remember being underwhelmed - they weren't much better than what we ended up with...
m3sye said:
Hey jammy thoughts on Clyne..??
In the same way that, in his prime, John Glenson was great going forward, but slightly suspect defending, I think Clyne is the opposite - fantastic in defence, a real rock, but so far hasn't offered a massive amount going forward. I think this maybe down to BR obviously asking one of the wingbacks to stay back at all times, so hopefully we'll see that side to him improve over the season. I also think his positioning could do with a tiny, tiny bit of improvement. But all in all I think he's so far been one of our best transfers from this summer.I also think this could be a big season for Emre.
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