The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 10]

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DuncanM

6,109 posts

278 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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conanius said:
Time to buck the trend....

I think its a shame he's gone.

Sorry, what's that I hear you say?

I honestly think its a shame when anyone is sacked - in or out of football - but I do think that in this case, Rodgers was probably given enough rope to hang himself.

At times under Rodgers in the time he was here, I felt we played some absolutely superb football - That game against Arsenal a few years back just felt incredible for me - but equally at times, we've looked really immature - that same season against Crystal Palace.

What I will say is, I'm pleased that he was at least given a decent amount of time to build 'something'.

I hope whomever replaces him is given the same respect, and has time to build a squad. As it stands, I think on paper we've got a load of players - many of whom are decent and would get into most other premier league sides - but if we are serious about Top 4 etc, in my mind the squad lacks balance.
I agree with pretty much all of that, however RT nailed it earlier - the day BR bottled out of playing high pressing exciting football was when it all went wrong.

Now we have poor results and poor performances.



Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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General Price said:
Pommygranite said:
Black can man said:
This Klop fellow, I know he won the German league once , is that it ? Or is there more ?


I think out of the two I'd prefer the Italian chap .
You a Liverpool fan now?
Whoever it is,his 1st game will be at Bill Nicholson Way.smile
Indeed sir , i feel the international break will favour us if you do as you all are predicting appoint a manager in the next few days as a lot of the team will be all over the world playing for their countries .



One thing for sure it will not be a boring fortnight for this thread or for Liverpool fans which I am not.

Flip Martian

19,512 posts

189 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Pommygranite said:
If we're looking at history as the guide it has to be Ancelotti.

De Boer has really only had success at one club in a very weak league.

My fear with Klopp is that he took a few seasons to really make an impact at Dortmund and then tailed off considerably after just a few seasons of success.
Agreed. Ancelotti would be my choice. This Is Anfield are reporting that FSG will be approaching Klopp though. Can't link on my mobile.

I like that iOS calls the Italian acne lotto...

RWD cossie wil

4,295 posts

172 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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DuncanM said:
conanius said:
Time to buck the trend....

I think its a shame he's gone.

Sorry, what's that I hear you say?

I honestly think its a shame when anyone is sacked - in or out of football - but I do think that in this case, Rodgers was probably given enough rope to hang himself.

At times under Rodgers in the time he was here, I felt we played some absolutely superb football - That game against Arsenal a few years back just felt incredible for me - but equally at times, we've looked really immature - that same season against Crystal Palace.

What I will say is, I'm pleased that he was at least given a decent amount of time to build 'something'.

I hope whomever replaces him is given the same respect, and has time to build a squad. As it stands, I think on paper we've got a load of players - many of whom are decent and would get into most other premier league sides - but if we are serious about Top 4 etc, in my mind the squad lacks balance.
I agree with pretty much all of that, however RT nailed it earlier - the day BR bottled out of playing high pressing exciting football was when it all went wrong.

Now we have poor results and poor performances.

Pretty much sums it up, ok we conceeded some stupid goals playing the way we did, but we were dynamic, expansive & exciting. Recently we have not looked like scoring & still been defending terribly, it's been on the cards for a while sadly.

BlackST

9,079 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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hilly10 said:
To hear this lot on here, you would think anyone of them could manage the Liverpool team, they certainly spout a lot of hot air.
Sad, bitter bluenose. I'm sure there is somewhere else on the internet where people may speak to you and your affection with our club but you're not entertaining here.

I have my reservations in regards to Klopp but he will do better than Rodgers.
Only one way to find out how he will do.

conanius

741 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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RWD cossie wil said:
DuncanM said:
conanius said:
Time to buck the trend....

I think its a shame he's gone.

Sorry, what's that I hear you say?

I honestly think its a shame when anyone is sacked - in or out of football - but I do think that in this case, Rodgers was probably given enough rope to hang himself.

At times under Rodgers in the time he was here, I felt we played some absolutely superb football - That game against Arsenal a few years back just felt incredible for me - but equally at times, we've looked really immature - that same season against Crystal Palace.

What I will say is, I'm pleased that he was at least given a decent amount of time to build 'something'.

I hope whomever replaces him is given the same respect, and has time to build a squad. As it stands, I think on paper we've got a load of players - many of whom are decent and would get into most other premier league sides - but if we are serious about Top 4 etc, in my mind the squad lacks balance.
I agree with pretty much all of that, however RT nailed it earlier - the day BR bottled out of playing high pressing exciting football was when it all went wrong.

Now we have poor results and poor performances.

Pretty much sums it up, ok we conceeded some stupid goals playing the way we did, but we were dynamic, expansive & exciting. Recently we have not looked like scoring & still been defending terribly, it's been on the cards for a while sadly.
Yep all agreed from me with that.

I think the problem is, we seem to have bought players with a view to playing high up pressing football, but err, play something different.

Just score more than the other team, that'll do nicely. I don't mind winning 5-3 every week.

Si1295

362 posts

140 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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DuncanM said:
I agree with pretty much all of that, however RT nailed it earlier - the day BR bottled out of playing high pressing exciting football was when it all went wrong.

Now we have poor results and poor performances.

Yet people bemoaned about him playing that style against Chelsea (and Palace?) during that season??

If you get Ancelotti then you can expect good things, the last top manager you had was Rafa and Ancelotti is a step above imo

Hammer67

5,706 posts

183 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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The jiffle king said:
Life as a football fan of one of the larger clubs must be a constant disappointment.
Yes, it's tough at times but we suck it up and keep buggering on.

RichB

51,435 posts

283 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Hammer67 said:
The jiffle king said:
Life as a football fan of one of the larger clubs must be a constant disappointment.
Yes, it's tough at times but we suck it up and keep buggering on.
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TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Back to the match a minute...vHaving just watched the highlights on MOTD, I thought your keeper was outstanding, especially in the first half when he pulled off a couple of superb saves. It puzzles me that Rodgers can stand in front of the cameras and declare that LFC had played well, especially in the first half, and deserved to be ahead.

Perhaps it's just bias BBC highlights, but I thought EFC won both halfs, and your goalie was your best player, stopping at least three sure goals with great saves.

The man must have serious issues if he believed you were the better team and deserved the win? Perhaps this was his problem?

Pommygranite

14,229 posts

215 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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TTmonkey said:
The man must have serious issues if he believed you were the better team and deserved the win? Perhaps this was his problem?
But this would apply to every single manager in the Premier League - it's just a 'thing' they do.


DeltonaS

3,707 posts

137 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Pommygranite said:
If we're looking at history as the guide it has to be Ancelotti.
I think Liverpool can forget Ancelotti. He only coached teams that were in a position to win titles; both domestically as well as in Europe. My guess he's the next Chelsea coach.

Pommygranite said:
De Boer has really only had success at one club in a very weak league.
Compared to the PL it's a weak leaque, but just as in Dutch leaque the PL winner will come from the same small group of teams; likewise in Spain, Germany, France etc.

Besides a lot of players currently playing in the PL come from that weak leaque. And the current Liverpool will strugle to win it.

But no media, nor anyone else is mentioning De Boer so he won't be it.(and he told Dutch media today he at least wants to end the current season.)

Pommygranite said:
My fear with Klopp is that he took a few seasons to really make an impact at Dortmund and then tailed off considerably after just a few seasons of success.
4 season of success is not bad, and I don't think you know from what dephts Dortmund came from. Liverpool currently can only dream of a CL-semi, let alone a final.


Edited by DeltonaS on Sunday 4th October 23:17

Adam B

27,142 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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The jiffle king said:
I don't understand Liverpool. The fans expectations are so high that I doubt anyone in todays business of football is going to match them as the success you had in the 80's is not going to return in such abundance. Not to say you cannot win things including titles, but not in the same quantity as you did given the financial power of the other clubs.
What are you on about? I haven't spoken to a Liverpool fans for 15 years + that expects a return to the 80s. On here we were hoping this season for some a more organised defence and some semblance of a plan, the manager picking a sensible formation and players in their correct positions. And if luck went our way maybe we get a sniff at 4th spot.

If we get a new manager I won't expect any more than that for next season either. If that goes well I might raise my sights a fraction higher. Hopes will always be higher but my realistic expectations won't.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Pommygranite said:
TTmonkey said:
The man must have serious issues if he believed you were the better team and deserved the win? Perhaps this was his problem?
But this would apply to every single manager in the Premier League - it's just a 'thing' they do.
Sorry I don't agree. Plenty of managers will state when their team have been poor, and will state when they've been outplayed. Plenty will say it's not good enough and demand better of their team. Not Jose obviously.

jammy_basturd

29,776 posts

211 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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TTmonkey said:
Pommygranite said:
TTmonkey said:
The man must have serious issues if he believed you were the better team and deserved the win? Perhaps this was his problem?
But this would apply to every single manager in the Premier League - it's just a 'thing' they do.
Sorry I don't agree. Plenty of managers will state when their team have been poor, and will state when they've been outplayed. Plenty will say it's not good enough and demand better of their team. Not Jose obviously.
BR knew he was going before a ball was even kicked today. He wasn't going to spend his last presser as Liverpool manager admitting Everton were the better team, true or not.

Pommygranite

14,229 posts

215 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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TTmonkey said:
Pommygranite said:
TTmonkey said:
The man must have serious issues if he believed you were the better team and deserved the win? Perhaps this was his problem?
But this would apply to every single manager in the Premier League - it's just a 'thing' they do.
Sorry I don't agree. Plenty of managers will state when their team have been poor, and will state when they've been outplayed. Plenty will say it's not good enough and demand better of their team. Not Jose obviously.
When was the last time a manager, and who was it, said they were poor and didn't deserve to wo when they scored first and ended up drawing 1-1?

It just doesn't happen.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Daily Mash said:
BRENDAN Rodgers has confirmed that being fired was something he had planned all along.

After poor results which saw Liverpool adopt a 1-2-0-2-2-1-1-1 formation in a bid to score using neuro-linguistic programming techniques, the club decided to find someone ‘less sophisticated’.

Rodgers said: “I will now sit on my sofa in my pants for the next three months, eating Wotsits and staring at my self-portrait. This will generate an upturn in results with a draw away at Norwich in January.

“In 2018, when I’m doing after dinner speeches in Dubai, Liverpool will win the League Cup as a result. It’s all in my dossier.”

In a statement, the club thanked Rodgers for ‘whatever the hell it was he had been doing for the past three and a half years’.

It is understood Rodgers offered to write the statement himself, claiming to be ‘one of the world’s top five sacking statement writers’.

jammy_basturd

29,776 posts

211 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Pommygranite said:
TTmonkey said:
Pommygranite said:
TTmonkey said:
The man must have serious issues if he believed you were the better team and deserved the win? Perhaps this was his problem?
But this would apply to every single manager in the Premier League - it's just a 'thing' they do.
Sorry I don't agree. Plenty of managers will state when their team have been poor, and will state when they've been outplayed. Plenty will say it's not good enough and demand better of their team. Not Jose obviously.
When was the last time a manager, and who was it, said they were poor and didn't deserve to wo when they scored first and ended up drawing 1-1?

It just doesn't happen.
Clearly:
1 - BR would have been sacked in the summer had any of FSG's preferred options been available then.
2 - They don't want to leave until Christmas, or however long later in case their options getting narrowed down outside of their control.
3 - They wanted to install new person over the international break as it's the ideal time for them to settle in before our next match.

Also, FSG fired Kenny after he won a cup final. I don't think they're really that bothered that they've fired another manager after he managed to scrape through a derby game with a point.

cerb4.5lee

30,197 posts

179 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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TTmonkey said:
Daily Mash said:
BRENDAN Rodgers has confirmed that being fired was something he had planned all along.

After poor results which saw Liverpool adopt a 1-2-0-2-2-1-1-1 formation in a bid to score using neuro-linguistic programming techniques, the club decided to find someone ‘less sophisticated’.

Rodgers said: “I will now sit on my sofa in my pants for the next three months, eating Wotsits and staring at my self-portrait. This will generate an upturn in results with a draw away at Norwich in January.

“In 2018, when I’m doing after dinner speeches in Dubai, Liverpool will win the League Cup as a result. It’s all in my dossier.”

In a statement, the club thanked Rodgers for ‘whatever the hell it was he had been doing for the past three and a half years’.

It is understood Rodgers offered to write the statement himself, claiming to be ‘one of the world’s top five sacking statement writers’.
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

53 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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I can't see Klopp or Ancelotti wanting to join Liverpool with the current quality of the squad - although it would help attract some decent players if they managed it.


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