The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

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chrisb92

1,051 posts

124 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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Do you have a goalkeeping curse? Is it just me or has Cech made quite a few errors this season?!

Big changes needed this summer for Arsenal. I was always a fan of Wenger (I'm a United fan), but this season I think has told me it really is time for him to go. Some of the results have been an absolute joke for Arsenal since December. 4-0 Vs Southampton probably being the worst.

Why is he not addressing the obvious weak areas in the squad? That defence has been terrible for so many years now and you've been without a world class striker since 2012? What is the man doing??

However, be happy that you don't have LVG in charge!

Chuck328

1,581 posts

167 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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chrisb92 said:
However, be happy that you don't have LVG in charge!
You know, I'm inclined to say we'll take our chances with him. Swap?

bobo

1,702 posts

278 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Chuck328 said:
You know, I'm inclined to say we'll take our chances with him. Swap?
i agree i think hes done quite well considering the squad and how its drastically changed this season.

my god, if he had our squad, such a forgiving and passive fan base and board with no real conviction/objective to win but qual in 4th he would have probably pulled it off!

lets face it, afc zero pressure environment would be a cake walk for a guy thats used to handling big egos and demanding fans.

Edited by bobo on Thursday 21st April 09:39

dsmith1990

1,264 posts

146 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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mickk

28,867 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Empty seats, is it a youth match?

g4ry13

16,988 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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This obi wan kenobi fella is terrible. He needs to be sold.

amgmcqueen

3,346 posts

150 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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mickk said:
Empty seats, is it a youth match?
Voting with their feet? Hit what Wenger and the Board hold dearest to one another, their pockets...

g4ry13

16,988 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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amgmcqueen said:
mickk said:
Empty seats, is it a youth match?
Voting with their feet? Hit what Wenger and the Board hold dearest to one another, their pockets...
The money from ticket sales pretty much pays for the police, stewards and ground staff.

The real money comes from TV and it makes little difference how busy the stadium is for that.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Plus they said the attendance/ticket sales tonight was over 59,000 - so not really hitting their pockets...

android

912 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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g4ry13 said:
The money from ticket sales pretty much pays for the police, stewards and ground staff.

The real money comes from TV and it makes little difference how busy the stadium is for that.
The cash cow machine is relentless people,you can't stop it. 4th spot is most likely ours,as per Wengers job description for yet another season.He gets his £8M salary + rise, then we get past the group phase of CL for another £16M or whatever it is and the wheels keep turning around ...... and round ..... and around
People who buy tickets are getting mugged off.

Edited by android on Thursday 21st April 22:35

aeropilot

34,600 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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jammy_basturd said:
Plus they said the attendance/ticket sales tonight was over 59,000 - so not really hitting their pockets...
That's only because like everything else, the attendance figures are a con, as they include season tickets holders who may decide not to both going but don't offer up their tickets.
It's astonishing that the club has the front (as do others) to bother giving attendance figures when it's simply not the actual amount of bodies being counted through the turnstiles......the amount of empty seats seen by your own eyes is a greater evidence than any 'official' club attendance figure. You'd have to be blind and stupid to believe the club attendance figure as being true.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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That's why I caveated my statement with 'ticket sales'.

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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g4ry13 said:
amgmcqueen said:
mickk said:
Empty seats, is it a youth match?
Voting with their feet? Hit what Wenger and the Board hold dearest to one another, their pockets...
The money from ticket sales pretty much pays for the police, stewards and ground staff.

The real money comes from TV and it makes little difference how busy the stadium is for that.
If that was the case, what was the point in building the stadium in the first place?! Or indeed anyone expanding their stadium?

In fact it's the most profitable football stadium in the world, with match day revenues exceeding £100m last season. Which is more than they received from TV money.

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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The Guardian podcast said this week that Arsenal get £3.8M in gate receipts every home match .


Haven't the empty seats already been paid for ?


A couple of chaps at work were on the AFC ticket exchange for last nights game mulling over weather to pay £73.00 for the upper tier or not. bloody crazy but still a far better way than stubhub that we sadly have.

Edited by Black can man on Friday 22 April 10:34

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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g4ry13 said:
The money from ticket sales pretty much pays for the police, stewards and ground staff.

The real money comes from TV and it makes little difference how busy the stadium is for that.
No. i'm not having that unless you have the entire Met & the Royal Marines there.

Policing & stewarding simply cannot cost that much.

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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Black can man said:
g4ry13 said:
The money from ticket sales pretty much pays for the police, stewards and ground staff.

The real money comes from TV and it makes little difference how busy the stadium is for that.
No. i'm not having that unless you have the entire Met & the Royal Marines there.

Policing & stewarding simply cannot cost that much.
Agreed. Whilst the relatively speaking the ticket revenue is a small income stream it's laughable to suggest Policing, Stewing and match staff costs anywhere remotely close to that.

£100,000-£200,000 per game would seem more likely with the largest cost probably being the emergency services.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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You guys do like your stews...

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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Alfahorn said:
Agreed. Whilst the relatively speaking the ticket revenue is a small income stream.
It's more than your TV revenue confused

RacingPete

8,879 posts

204 months

Friday 22nd April 2016
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Alfahorn said:
Agreed. Whilst the relatively speaking the ticket revenue is a small income stream it's laughable to suggest Policing, Stewing and match staff costs anywhere remotely close to that.

£100,000-£200,000 per game would seem more likely with the largest cost probably being the emergency services.
Can't speak for stewards or match day staff - but the police costs work out on average 1m per season.

g4ry13

16,988 posts

255 months

Saturday 23rd April 2016
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aeropilot said:
jammy_basturd said:
Plus they said the attendance/ticket sales tonight was over 59,000 - so not really hitting their pockets...
That's only because like everything else, the attendance figures are a con, as they include season tickets holders who may decide not to both going but don't offer up their tickets.
It's astonishing that the club has the front (as do others) to bother giving attendance figures when it's simply not the actual amount of bodies being counted through the turnstiles......the amount of empty seats seen by your own eyes is a greater evidence than any 'official' club attendance figure. You'd have to be blind and stupid to believe the club attendance figure as being true.
Where do you get that from about the attendance figures?

I believe that the times I worked at the stadium and watched the attendance data in the control room, it matched to what the club was reporting as their attendance for the game.

Even when a stadium is 'full' to capacity, you can still find empty seats as they are required to have them.

Edited by g4ry13 on Saturday 23 April 02:30

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