The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

[Glassman]

I was a bit miffed at why Joel Campbell - one of the most promising players we've seen in recent seasons - was being pushed out on loan (again). At first I thought it was to do with the wide options we have. I know Wenger is favouring Iwobi, and he's waiting for the right game to unleash The Jeff in... but after the game today, I have no doubt in my mind that Campbell would have presented more of a problem to Fuchs than Walnut did.

[Alfahorn]

ascayman said:

but that's not lack of investment is it, you may be buying the wrong players but there is certainly no lack of investment.

It's apparent from this response and subsequent responses you've not got a clue what you're talking about so we'll leave it there I think.

[Alfahorn]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Maybe he did, but given that Arsenal thought the clause existed, and Suarez knew the story about the clause was out there, an offer of the buy of figure plus £1 is hardly saying to the player "we are really desperate to sign you and would really love you to come to our club."

If Arsenal had offered £60 or £70m, Suarez might have thought "this club mean business, and they really want me badly."

And you might have got him.

I agree with you and that doesn't happen often.

Our conduct in the transfer market over recent seasons is frankly and embarrassment.

[Alfahorn]

Squirrelofwoe said:

Cupramax said:

Yet another woefull clueless display, Walcott needs sending to play with the under 18's. The only good thring to come out of today was 90 mins for Koscielny, the rest of the team, fking clueless.

Koscielny was immense, showed exactly what was missing last weekend. I thought Xhaka had a good game too, managed to be everywhere he needed to be and most of his tackles he got spot on. I couldn't work out why he was subbed instead of the very-lucky-to-still-be-on-the-pitch Coquelin.

Walcott was useless. Sanchez flitted between looking knackered and uninterested, either way he was nowhere near the pace. Chamberlain at least looked to try and make things happen now and again, but with zero end-product. I still thought he was unlucky to be subbed ahead of Walcott though. It was certainly the bluntest an Arsenal front-3 have looked for a while, and that's saying something.

Until the introduction of the subs it was just sideways passing in front of the Leicester box. Sanchez was the notional forward but was playing so deep most of the time we were essentially playing with no forward.

The 0-0 looked likely from about 15 minutes in, but with Coquelin getting extremely luckky and the stonewall late penalty not being given, I'd say Arsenal were quite fortunate in the end to come away with a point.

Certainly didn't look like any progress has been made from last season whatsoever

Edit: In determination to find a positive from the game (Koscielny aside), the one thing I was pretty happy with was the Coquelin/Xhaka partnership in midfield. It certainly seemed to give the back 4 more protection than they've had in a long time. I can see that being the preferred choice in some of the big games this season.

Edited by Squirrelofwoe on Saturday 20th August 19:43

There has'nt been any progress in 6 or 7 years let alone this year. It was a poor performance, we never looked like scoring and indeed the only real positive was the return. And performance of Koscielny who was excellent.

Performance and issues the same as last year and will remain so until that is gone.

[Chuck328]

Alfahorn said:

There has'nt been any progress in 6 or 7 years let alone this year. It was a poor performance, we never looked like scoring and indeed the only real positive was the return. And performance of Koscielny who was excellent.

Performance and issues the same as last year and will remain so until that + Kroenke are gone.

Perhaps more concise?

Edited by Chuck328 on Sunday 21st August 01:41

[mylesmcd]

So last week we needed Center Backs, this week it is Strikers.

Who knew, eh?

[joema]

Suarez was always after Barca.

Not sure why Giroud and Ozil weren't on sooner. Performance changed the game a bit but 10mins left??

[NordicCrankShaft]

So Joel Campbell has been shipped out to Sporting on loan.

Well what a fecking mess this club is. You've got Theo fking Walcott who's a big assed waste of space playing in front of a guy that pretty much gives his all every game, has a bit of flair, a fantastic attitude and pretty much everything Walcott hasn't and he's done more than enough to warrant being in the first team. But instead he's been forced to go out on Loan because of the ste that plays in front of him all the time.

I feel for the guy.

[Alfahorn]

I don't feel sorry for Joel Campbell I'm pleased for him. Rather than be destroyed as a player by Le he can go and play elsewhere. He's managed to escape the rotting carcass of this once great football club for another season.

[Cheib]

Really don't understand what is going on with Joel Campbell but it explains why he wasn't even on the bench last weekend. Maybe Gnabry's coming back from the Olympics and going to be banging on the door? Maybe The Jeff is going to become a PL legend ?!?! Maybe we're buying someone...wouldn't that be a novelty.

I read somewhere today that Cazorla lost the plot when he didn't start against Liverpool...

[aeropilot]

Cheib said:

Maybe Gnabry's coming back from the Olympics and going to be banging on the door?

Rumour in the past few days says he's off to the Bundesliga for a loan spell, either Hertha Berlin or FSV Mainz.

[ascayman]

Alfahorn said:

ascayman said:

but that's not lack of investment is it, you may be buying the wrong players but there is certainly no lack of investment.

It's apparent from this response and subsequent responses you've not got a clue what you're talking about so we'll leave it there I think.

It's horrible to be proved wrong isn't it...

[ascayman]

Alfahorn said:

ascayman said:

but that's not lack of investment is it, you may be buying the wrong players but there is certainly no lack of investment.

It's apparent from this response and subsequent responses you've not got a clue what you're talking about so we'll leave it there I think.

It's horrible to be proved wrong isn't it...

[Black can man]

ascayman said:

Alfahorn said:

ascayman said:

but that's not lack of investment is it, you may be buying the wrong players but there is certainly no lack of investment.

It's apparent from this response and subsequent responses you've not got a clue what you're talking about so we'll leave it there I think.

It's horrible to be proved wrong isn't it...

Arsenal have spent over £300M on players over the last 6 seasons, that's an awful lot for a club that doesn't want to spend.

[mylesmcd]

Black can man said:

ascayman said:

Alfahorn said:

ascayman said:

but that's not lack of investment is it, you may be buying the wrong players but there is certainly no lack of investment.

It's apparent from this response and subsequent responses you've not got a clue what you're talking about so we'll leave it there I think.

It's horrible to be proved wrong isn't it...

Arsenal have spent over £300M on players over the last 6 seasons, that's an awful lot for a club that doesn't want to spend.

The issue(s) are lack of spending, but more importantly a lack of tackling the real issues the team has faced. Ie, CDM position was vacant until Coq reinvented himself. FOr seasons ( when Flamini left) our back 4 was left gaping open to attack and every other team knew it. Then we go and spend 35 million on Granit, whilst Kante ( premiership proven, hit the ground running) goes for 30......

our spend has been massively ineffective.

[jammy_basturd]

You think you can compete with Chelsea for players?

[ascayman]

Black can man said:

ascayman said:

Alfahorn said:

ascayman said:

but that's not lack of investment is it, you may be buying the wrong players but there is certainly no lack of investment.

It's apparent from this response and subsequent responses you've not got a clue what you're talking about so we'll leave it there I think.

It's horrible to be proved wrong isn't it...

Arsenal have spent over £300M on players over the last 6 seasons, that's an awful lot for a club that doesn't want to spend.

Indeed it's a complete myth 4th highest net spenders 4th highest wage bill. I'm not sure who they expect to outspend the financialy doped or the biggest club In the country. No one seems to want to answer..

[anonymous-user]

jammy_basturd said:

You think you can compete with Chelsea for players?

That depends how much Kroenke and the like want to dip in their pockets, if they don't/can't the club needs to be sold to someone who can, no point in having a 60,000 capacity state of the art stadium, high ticket prices + high refreshment prices only to end up with mediocre football.

[Alfahorn]

ascayman said:

Alfahorn said:

ascayman said:

but that's not lack of investment is it, you may be buying the wrong players but there is certainly no lack of investment.

It's apparent from this response and subsequent responses you've not got a clue what you're talking about so we'll leave it there I think.

It's horrible to be proved wrong isn't it...

I wouldn't know.

You claim the issue is we bought the wrong players. Incorrect. We needed more invention hence the purchase of Ozil. We needed more pace hence and goal threat hence the purchase of Alexis.

We've also needed a tough tackling midfield general for many years until we finally bought one this summer in Xhaka. Coquelin and Elneny are ok but they aren't as tough or as commanding and don't have the leadership qualities.

We've needed a quality centre half of international class and quality for 3 or 4 years still not addressed and that's really biting us now.

A top class centre forward has been needed since Van Persie left 4 years ago. As long as there's a hole in my arse Giroud will never been a top class centre forward.

So yes we've bought players but not spent the money to get the very best quality available, hence the lack of investment statement.

We moved to The Emirates to enable us to compete with United, Real Madrid, Barcalona, Bayern and frankly we're a million miles from that at the moment.

We are going to backwards. I was delighted to hear the fans finally speak out against Le on Saturday. His subsequent comments about the fans being influenced by the media is another reason to treat him with the contempt he shows the fans who spend thousands of pounds a season frankly.

[Alfahorn]

jammy_basturd said:

You think you can compete with Chelsea for players?

Yes absolutely but we chose not too.