The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

[bobo]

jammy-git said:

We quickly gave him a 7 year contract less than a year into the job and we've just agreed to build a £50m training facility at his request. Klopp isn't going anywhere for a while!

yes i agree ... what were we smoking over at the emirates (again) ... merde allors !

[bobo]

Black can man said:

I'm a Spurs fan so it is great fun to see, Claude, Ty, troops & the Pirate guy losing the plot, buy surely Wenger doesn't deserve the stick & abuse he's getting does he blud !

you sound like the Conservatives that registered to vote for Corbyns leadership lol !

[Borroxs]

TEKNOPUG said:

Borroxs said:

Black can man said:

Borroxs said:

You don't think Klopp would leave Liverpool? Maybe not for Arsenal yes. But I think he'd jump before the risk of being pushed.

Why would Klopp leave Liverpool , The fans love him & so do the media.

The media can change their love affair with Klopp overnight. And Liverpool fans will give him time, as yes they do like him, but they are an expectant lot. They demand improvement, to be in with a chance of glory at least. Last year he had a couple of great cup runs to keep them onside. All that's left this year is the inevitable derby win and a chase for top 4. Is that really enough? Maybe for a few days taking the piss out of Everton fans but I don't think it will be enough.

If January was a mere blip in their season then he'll be alright. But if there's a long term down turn in performance, the team and the fans will turn against him, as they do everywhere.

Its interesting that any fan thinks a manager is locked in by a long contract. These are easily broken by teams with big money behind them. I think Klopp will appeal to the likes of the big Spanish clubs with his style, and if he's not getting the quality player brought in at Liverpool then he might be tempted away with a dream job offer, if the best you've got is Thursday night football next season.

I guess it depends a lot on how well the next 8-10 matches goes. Win the majority of them and the fans will remain on side, as will the media. But I think Man U will be Top 4 at the end of the season, along with Chelsea and City, so Liverpool need Arsenal and Tottenham to implode. Good odds that Arsenal will. And Spurs always manage to finish below Arsenal, somehow. But that's what's needed for a Liverpool top4 finish. And if they miss that then I think

Do I want Klopp to leave the PL? No. He's entertaining.

As you said previously though, he's not going to leave Liverpool for Arsenal. So it's all moot.

I was answering BCMs question on why would Klopp move.... my point is that Wenger going is likely to cause a 'Manager merry-go-round' with a vacancy opening up, Managers that are currently 'happy where they are' all looking at opportunities elsewhere. And aren't Barca looking for a replacement to Enrique?

Question is, do we think the top 6 in the PL will have the same managers at the start of next season, and if not, which ones are likely to have moved?

Pep wont move
Jose wont move
Conte wont move (I think?)
Poch unlikely to move
Klopp maybe. Offer him the Barca job and lets see if he chooses Thursday nights in Uzbekestan to something nicer.

[aeropilot]

Borroxs said:

Question is, do we think the top 6 in the PL will have the same managers at the start of next season, and if not, which ones are likely to have moved?

Pep wont move
Jose wont move
Conte wont move (I think?)
Poch unlikely to move
Klopp maybe. Offer him the Barca job and lets see if he chooses Thursday nights in Uzbekestan to something nicer.

I think the situation at Barca is the key....

I think if the job at Barca comes free, of the current top 6 PL managers, the most likely to jump ship for the Barca job IMHO, will be Poch. Don't think any Spanish speaking ambitious manager would turn down any offer from Barca, especially as an Argentine, with Messi there.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Borroxs said:

Conte wont move (I think?)

Knowing us, he'll be looking for a new job if he doesn't win the CL next season!!!

[Alfahorn]

Black can man said:

I'm a Spurs fan so it is great fun to see, Claude, Ty, troops & the Pirate guy losing the plot, buy surely Wenger doesn't deserve the stick & abuse he's getting does he blud !

He's had so much time and money over the last few years and the results are the same every year. You get me fam!

[Black can man]

Alfahorn said:

You get me fam!

[aka_kerrly]

Black can man said:

Really getting a bit cheesed off at the abuse Arsene Wenger is getting , surely he doesn't deserve the ste he's been subject too.


What top flight manager would want to go to a club with such toxic fans. ( not all of you i know )


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You ungrateful so n so's .

There was an interesting point made during the Bayern game and that was that in the last 20 years Arsenal have been runners up in :

Premier league - 5 times
Champions league - 1
FA Cup - 1
League cup - 3

Thus, you could argue that if Arsenal had managed to win perhaps a dozen or so more games in the last 20 years then they'd have had

9 X Premier league titles
7 x FA Cups
1 x Champions league
2 x League Cups

[Allyc85]

Do you think Leicester would be interested in Wenger?

[blade7]

Black can man said:

I reckon that Ronald Koeman will be the next Arsenal Manager

He's secretly a big Wenger admirer...

[Alfahorn]

aka_kerrly said:

There was an interesting point made during the Bayern game and that was that in the last 20 years Arsenal have been runners up in :

Premier league - 5 times
Champions league - 1
FA Cup - 1
League cup - 3

Thus, you could argue that if Arsenal had managed to win perhaps a dozen or so more games in the last 20 years then they'd have had

9 X Premier league titles
7 x FA Cups
1 x Champions league
2 x League Cups

+ 1 UEFA Cup

[Cheib]

Borroxs said:

Question is, do we think the top 6 in the PL will have the same managers at the start of next season, and if not, which ones are likely to have moved?

Pep wont move
Jose wont move
Conte wont move (I think?)
Poch unlikely to move
Klopp maybe. Offer him the Barca job and lets see if he chooses Thursday nights in Uzbekestan to something nicer.

Not necessarily pertaining to those managers but I think we'll start to see managers getting bought out of contracts/paid signing on fees. Poch has just signed a 5 year contract at Spurs so maybe you'd have to pay Levy £15mil to buy him out....sure that's a lot of money but when a pretty average player is £15mil it starts to look very realistic to pay that to get the right manager.

Arsenal would also be a very attractive job...certainly up there in the Top 10 in world football.

[Dinlowgoon]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/f...

Hoping for a second offer - £30M + £1

[DeltonaS]

15 years ago

Nice article today in Der Spiegel:

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/dennis-bergka...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IicmCu47pMo

[Black can man]

Sanchez on the bench

[Sparkyhd]

Black can man said:

Sanchez on the bench

No surprise, important game against Bayern next Tuesday.

[Black can man]

Sparkyhd said:

Black can man said:

Sanchez on the bench

No surprise, important game against Bayern next Tuesday.

[BlackLabel]

Bit strange to leave out your best player after you've just had a 14 day break.

[PurpleAki]

On balance, the right result.

[aeropilot]

BlackLabel said:

Bit strange to leave out your best player after you've just had a 14 day break.

There's been a LOT of speculation about Sanchez recently, and I think Arsenal have resigned themselves to the fact that he'll be on his way in the summer, so maybe this was one of those 'no player is bigger than the club' bench warming sessions......AW has done that many times in the past.

Todays result is the one I expected.....slipping out of the top 4 and now only 1 point ahead of Utd.