The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

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Glassman

22,559 posts

216 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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aeropilot said:
That's the 'official' reason.......

I'm beginning to wonder (I think others are as well) if there were other more fundamental reasons for his departure....AW doesn't like being challenged, and probably especially by former players.
This is a significant part of the problem. He likes yes men; nodding dogs, sat on the parcel shelf of his Citroen DS Hybrid. Do as I say, not as I do.

mickk

28,920 posts

243 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Sparkyhd said:
Or how about watching the match in silence and killing the atmosphere?
hehe

RacingPete

8,884 posts

205 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Glassman said:
This is a significant part of the problem. He likes yes men; nodding dogs, sat on the parcel shelf of his Citroen DS Hybrid. Do as I say, not as I do.
I always saw him as a Citroen C6 kind of man... wafting Hollande stylee.

Glassman

22,559 posts

216 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid

43,427 posts

151 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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mickk said:
Sparkyhd said:
Or how about watching the match in silence and killing the atmosphere?
hehe
rofl

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Giroud wants the adventure to continue.

Arsenal players want Arsene Wenger to sign a new contract, insists Gunners striker Olivier Giroud

article said:
“We want to see Arsene Wenger sign an extension, to continue the adventure, because we support him,” Giroud told French media.

Cheib

23,288 posts

176 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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It's a massive cluster fk...how an EMPLOYEE of a listed company can be allowed to have as much power as Wenger had is incredible. Corporate governance is just appalling.

It looks to me that either the players have gipven up on Wenger or they can't handle the pressure created by his contract and the Ozila and Sanchez contract issues. Ozil has reported for Germany despite not being fit for WBA, he's hardly played since his agent said he was fed up of being the scapegoat.

aeropilot

34,692 posts

228 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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Yep, I don't expect we'll see him turning out in an Arsenal shirt many more times before he leaves in the summer.

I really don't expect Alexis to still be at the club after the summer either.

Don't blame either of them going if one or both go either.


Dinlowgoon

912 posts

170 months

Monday 20th March 2017
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If that contract gets signed i hope he's thought through all of the implications (well not really). Personal security etc....

Cupramax

10,482 posts

253 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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As much as i dont like it i really dont want that sort of thing going on. This needs to be hurting the club. Wenger obviously loves the club, he's just lost the plot and is past his best. The issue is governance and the spineless board, thats where the pressure needs to be targeted...

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Cupramax said:
As much as i dont like it i really dont want that sort of thing going on. This needs to be hurting the club. Wenger obviously loves the club, he's just lost the plot and is past his best. The issue is governance and the spineless board, thats where the pressure needs to be targeted...
The board and Wenger are both greedy.
The current team is not good enough. It's no good Arsenal celebrating if they are able to persuade Sanchez/Ozil to stay if the rest of the team remains the same, the whole team + manager + board need a overhaul.

Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

96 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Cheib said:
It's a massive cluster fk...how an EMPLOYEE of a listed company can be allowed to have as much power as Wenger had is incredible. Corporate governance is just appalling.
You're talking in business terms. But as a business it's all going well isn't it? Profitable, captive customer base with recurring revenue, cash rich and generative, good assets like the ground. From a business perspective what's not to like so I don't think you can accuse the board or Wenger from this angle.

Obviously fans aren't too interested about the business end, unless you support Coventry City, and want success and excitement.

If the business people running the business see continued financial success what's the urgency to change it?

Cheib

23,288 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Just reading some comments by a French football journalist called Philippe Auclair whose a pretty good journalist in my opinion. He's made the point that the Bayern result made Wenger more and not less likely to hang around....not one for quitting on a low.

All these press reports of a "transfer war chest" would indicate he's staying too...although £100mil doesn't get you very much these days. Especially if that's being generated from selling your best (Sannchez) and most talented (Ozil) players. That's what we spent on Mustafi, Xhaka, Perez and Holding last year....and you could argue only Holding has been successful.

aeropilot

34,692 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Cheib said:
not one for quitting on a low.
Not one for quitting full stop.....that's the problem.

Unlike Fergie, who had built a life beyond before quitting, and was happy to move upstairs, Wenger is consumed by it, and admitted when asked about the fact that Fergie had said he doesn't miss it after retiring, that he couldn't comprehend that.
That was when I thought that he'd just go on and on and on.....he probably wants the status of being the oldest ELP manger, oldest manger ever in world football, even if by then we're in a relegation battle for staying in the EPL as he's so past it.......rolleyes

bobo

1,702 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Giroud wants the adventure to continue.

Arsenal players want Arsene Wenger to sign a new contract, insists Gunners striker Olivier Giroud

article said:
“We want to see Arsene Wenger sign an extension, to continue the adventure, because we support him,” Giroud told French media.
he does because hes a ligue 2 stiker being paid EPL wages.

HRL

3,341 posts

220 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
mickk said:
Sparkyhd said:
Or how about watching the match in silence and killing the atmosphere?
hehe
rofl
I know it's wrong and I shouldn't, but have another one. rofl

aeropilot

34,692 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Meanwhile......I see its been announced that Podders will be Germany's Captain tomorrow night in the game against England.

BBC said:
Lukas Podolski will captain Germany against England in Wednesday's friendly as he wins his 130th and final cap.

The 31-year-old Galatasaray and former Arsenal forward quit international football after Euro 2016 but returns for a farewell game in Dortmund.

"It's not easy to replace Podolski in the team. He is unique. He is one of the greatest players that Germany has produced," said boss Joachim Low.

Podolski, who won the 2014 World Cup with Germany, will join Japanese side Vissel Kobe after the Turkish season ends in May.

Mesut Ozil, Julian Draxler, Mario Gomez and are all injured.
Of course our esteemed manager clearly thought he wasn't that good given just how few full 90 min games he played for us ..... rolleyes












MOBB

3,623 posts

128 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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And he's doing the same to Lucas Perez now. Potentially a great striker, no real opportunity to play.

Podolski was a great proven striker, but as he wasn't a midfield midget he didn't fit Wenger's style of play.

I swear he'd play 11 midfielders if he could get away with it.

aeropilot

34,692 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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MOBB said:
I swear he'd play 11 midfielders if he could get away with it.
Yup, a 0-10-0 formation endlessly crossing sideways across the middle of the pitch for 90mins is his idea of perfection.


anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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MOBB said:
Podolski was a great proven striker, but as he wasn't a midfield midget he didn't fit Wenger's style of play.
Podolski was past his sell by date when he came to Arsenal just like Mertesacker, tbh I think it was embarrassing buying them, it sums Arsenal up in recent times rather than buying current top players they buy a couple of hasbeens.
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