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technodup said:
All of them, they're all British. NI, Wales, England in that order, probably.
Some would say as a mere region of the UK Scotland shouldn't have it's own team anyway, I quite like the sound of TeamGB.
TBF silly me, Sevco fans are used to supporting a 2nd team after the old one died Some would say as a mere region of the UK Scotland shouldn't have it's own team anyway, I quite like the sound of TeamGB.
It's all good for us, it means next time we play there will be plenty tickets available because obviously Celtic have no more interest in a new team than they do in St Johnstone or Motherwell. Less I'd imagine.
Or not...
Anyway I think this thread is intended for diddy teams and Scotland fans so I'll bow out.
Or not...
Anyway I think this thread is intended for diddy teams and Scotland fans so I'll bow out.
technodup said:
It's all good for us, it means next time we play there will be plenty tickets available because obviously Celtic have no more interest in a new team than they do in St Johnstone or Motherwell. Less I'd imagine.
Or not...
Anyway I think this thread is intended for diddy teams and Scotland fans so I'll bow out.
Is that Pimms O'Clock already?Or not...
Anyway I think this thread is intended for diddy teams and Scotland fans so I'll bow out.
Toodle pip
So the SPFL sponsor has been avoiding paying tax
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/footba...
Wonder how long it will be until there's blogs and twitter accounts and media investigations galore into this........
I hope all of the SPFL clubs will be handing back any sponsorship money they received from the Ladbrokes deal, or there might have to be investigations into title stripping!!
You know, sporting integrity and all that.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/footba...
Wonder how long it will be until there's blogs and twitter accounts and media investigations galore into this........
I hope all of the SPFL clubs will be handing back any sponsorship money they received from the Ladbrokes deal, or there might have to be investigations into title stripping!!
You know, sporting integrity and all that.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 2nd December 23:59
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35031970
big shake up, is league reconstruction on the way......
big shake up, is league reconstruction on the way......
It looks increasingly likely that the powers at be feel the need to push league reconstruction though.
It has been dismissed for years before, but they now feel the need to be helpful.
I would normally be all for it, but it now seems they are doing it for the wrong reasons.
It's not right, is it?
It has been dismissed for years before, but they now feel the need to be helpful.
I would normally be all for it, but it now seems they are doing it for the wrong reasons.
It's not right, is it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Kenny Macaskill is an embarrassment to the Scottish Government with his line of questioning, arrogant arse
Kenny Macaskill is an embarrassment to the Scottish Government with his line of questioning, arrogant arse
Strocky said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Kenny Macaskill is an embarrassment to the Scottish Government with his line of questioning, arrogant arse
The SFA have totally downplayed it in recent weeks and opened up a can of worms again. Kenny Macaskill is an embarrassment to the Scottish Government with his line of questioning, arrogant arse
There was quotes of the singing by the minority, although it was clearly the opposite.
Then they wanted to wait to see if the match delagate would report it before considering the situation. I'm sure they could have watched the news and heard the footage.
Then they decided that not much can be done to stop it anyway.
Sadly if you set that example people are going to push too far.
Now that the SFA have shown they're not willing to do anything, the police and politicians are going to make an issue of it.
Driver101 said:
Now that the SFA have shown they're not willing to do anything, the police and politicians are going to make an issue of it.
Aye, never mind the actual issues; the foodbanks, the NHS, the state of the roads, the homeless etc etc, let's ban some nasty songs.We'll gloss over the fact these songs are sung in every pub, social club and bus on match days, that's fine. But we can't have them on telly, because then other people might think we're a bit backward and stuck in a previous century. Which of course is absolutely nothing to do with our backward and segregated school system highlighting our differences based on sky fairies from centuries before.
Talk about treating the symptom rather than the cause.
technodup said:
Driver101 said:
Now that the SFA have shown they're not willing to do anything, the police and politicians are going to make an issue of it.
Aye, never mind the actual issues; the foodbanks, the NHS, the state of the roads, the homeless etc etc, let's ban some nasty songs.We'll gloss over the fact these songs are sung in every pub, social club and bus on match days, that's fine. But we can't have them on telly, because then other people might think we're a bit backward and stuck in a previous century. Which of course is absolutely nothing to do with our backward and segregated school system highlighting our differences based on sky fairies from centuries before.
Talk about treating the symptom rather than the cause.
I'm not sure what schooling system you came through, but any school I've been at doesn't have this kind of teaching on the curriculum.
It's a topic that surfaces through football the vast majority of the time. At football games and over the internet is where these ugly people pop up.
You don't tend to find any at school and not really in day to day life either.
The issue is a football problem. Most of the people learn the songs as they go to the football. They don't learn the songs and feel the need to align their beliefs to football.
Most don't actually have a clue what they are actually singing right enough. They just think it's the in thing to do and know they will cause offence, which is quite often the aim.
What f
ks me off is when this is used as a means to stop and search, whilst the police act like dicks at falkirk v Cowdenbeath.
The amount of times I've been questioned or stopped and searched due to this act is really getting on my tits.
In other news a celtic fan shat in a lidl bag and flung it at the Stranraer support.it's clearly working.
Sad fact is I know the guy who done it. Filthy animal.
ks me off is when this is used as a means to stop and search, whilst the police act like dicks at falkirk v Cowdenbeath. The amount of times I've been questioned or stopped and searched due to this act is really getting on my tits.
In other news a celtic fan shat in a lidl bag and flung it at the Stranraer support.it's clearly working.
Sad fact is I know the guy who done it. Filthy animal.
GG89 said:
Did the st in the bag happen then? I saw celtic fans saying on twitter it was a rangers fan who made it up... a likely story.
Story goes. My mate got a carry out and that was the bag. t in the bag happen then? I saw celtic fans saying on twitter it was a rangers fan who made it up... a likely story.He has a habit for disappearing for a s
t when drinking all the time. Stranraer facilities are well, none for away support.
Someone reported him from the bus to the club.
Think police are getting involved.
He's had his season card suspended while they investigate
The story was broken by @stanraertalk. A new twitter account setup on the day of the game.
He had odd links.....
The story goes it was a visually impaired 7 year old the bag hit.
It sounds like a complete windup to me.
Given the distance between the fans it would have had to be an almighty throw.
If it's true, which I highly doubt it is, the person should be jailed.
Apparently the guy who posted it later admitted later it was a windup.
Anyone tried the mobile network in Stranraer before? It is hopeless. Anyone tried it when thousands more are there? It doesn't work.
However this guy was actively posting the whole game.
The power of the internet it travelled like wildfire. People who wanted to believe did and the story has been changed along the game of Chinese whispers.
He had odd links.....
The story goes it was a visually impaired 7 year old the bag hit.
It sounds like a complete windup to me.
Given the distance between the fans it would have had to be an almighty throw.
If it's true, which I highly doubt it is, the person should be jailed.
Apparently the guy who posted it later admitted later it was a windup.
Anyone tried the mobile network in Stranraer before? It is hopeless. Anyone tried it when thousands more are there? It doesn't work.
However this guy was actively posting the whole game.
The power of the internet it travelled like wildfire. People who wanted to believe did and the story has been changed along the game of Chinese whispers.
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 12th January 20:13
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 12th January 20:14
Driver101 said:
It is an issue though. Food banks, NHS and the roads are totally unconnected issues. Sounds like pointless deflection to justify.
It's less about deflection and more about priorities.Driver101 said:
I'm not sure what schooling system you came through,
The best state school in the country as it goes.Driver101 said:
but any school I've been at doesn't have this kind of teaching on the curriculum.
The issue is a football problem.
So long as we separate children at the age of 5 or younger on the basis that one Dad believes a different fairy story to another we will ALWAYS have this type of problem. Football is only the manifestation of the underlying issue.The issue is a football problem.
Religion should be for the home. It shouldn't be foisted on children who know nothing else. It shouldn't be for school or for football, but so long as we highlight differences rather than similarities at impressionable ages what exactly do we expect?
technodup said:
Driver101 said:
It is an issue though. Food banks, NHS and the roads are totally unconnected issues. Sounds like pointless deflection to justify.
It's less about deflection and more about priorities.Driver101 said:
I'm not sure what schooling system you came through,
The best state school in the country as it goes.Driver101 said:
but any school I've been at doesn't have this kind of teaching on the curriculum.
The issue is a football problem.
So long as we separate children at the age of 5 or younger on the basis that one Dad believes a different fairy story to another we will ALWAYS have this type of problem. Football is only the manifestation of the underlying issue.The issue is a football problem.
Religion should be for the home. It shouldn't be foisted on children who know nothing else. It shouldn't be for school or for football, but so long as we highlight differences rather than similarities at impressionable ages what exactly do we expect?
What you see as minor problems can't just be ignored as there is other things to do. As an MP they are supposed to address all the issues that people see fit. The police too.
So how do so many people leave the schooling system without these beliefs, no interest in football, or support other clubs and team games without the same views, anger and bitterness?
For all the people I know that go to games, very few came through schools of any religious background.
Half the folk that cause most of the issues clearly rarely went to any school.
When millions of people pass through the schooling system and most turn out to be perfectly fine normal people, you can't blame the schools.
Most people don't have a clue what they are talking and singing about. The only reason they do it is to conform to the people around them. They learn these things at football and most certainly not school. That's just complete b
ks. People want to be offensive for the sake of fitting in and being the big man. We've seen it on this forum all too often.
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 12th January 21:19
Aye OK, nothing to see here. Use your big bad government sledgehammer to crack your Billy Boy nuts all you like.
The Scottish school system stinks. It by definition creates division. That you can't or won't see that isn't my problem. Once again for the avoidance of doubt I don't give a fk about religion, I'm notionally Protestant but a notion is all it is. My default position is for government to do less, always. Which is why I can't believe (well it is the SNP) why they waste resources on garbage like this, which does nothing to solve the 'problem' (as evidenced by recent outbreaks of singing).
And remember this is singing we're talking about. Banning songs. In football stadia full of people who identify as protestants and rebels. It's utterly ludicrous.
Banning things rarely works. I don't have to give you a list of examples to prove the point. And the SNP certainly aren't smart enough to buck that trend.
Hullo...eh, oops I mean goodbye.
The Scottish school system stinks. It by definition creates division. That you can't or won't see that isn't my problem. Once again for the avoidance of doubt I don't give a f
k about religion, I'm notionally Protestant but a notion is all it is. My default position is for government to do less, always. Which is why I can't believe (well it is the SNP) why they waste resources on garbage like this, which does nothing to solve the 'problem' (as evidenced by recent outbreaks of singing). And remember this is singing we're talking about. Banning songs. In football stadia full of people who identify as protestants and rebels. It's utterly ludicrous.
Banning things rarely works. I don't have to give you a list of examples to prove the point. And the SNP certainly aren't smart enough to buck that trend.
Hullo...eh, oops I mean goodbye.
Driver101 said:
The story was broken by @stanraertalk. A new twitter account setup on the day of the game.
He had odd links.....
The story goes it was a visually impaired 7 year old the bag hit.
It sounds like a complete windup to me.
Given the distance between the fans it would have had to be an almighty throw.
If it's true, which I highly doubt it is, the person should be jailed.
Apparently the guy who posted it later admitted later it was a windup.
Anyone tried the mobile network in Stranraer before? It is hopeless. Anyone tried it when thousands more are there? It doesn't work.
However this guy was actively posting the whole game.
The power of the internet it travelled like wildfire. People who wanted to believe did and the story has been changed along the game of Chinese whispers.
I must be an evil person, I have to admit I was laughing when I heard about it, Only in Scottish footballHe had odd links.....
The story goes it was a visually impaired 7 year old the bag hit.
It sounds like a complete windup to me.
Given the distance between the fans it would have had to be an almighty throw.
If it's true, which I highly doubt it is, the person should be jailed.
Apparently the guy who posted it later admitted later it was a windup.
Anyone tried the mobile network in Stranraer before? It is hopeless. Anyone tried it when thousands more are there? It doesn't work.
However this guy was actively posting the whole game.
The power of the internet it travelled like wildfire. People who wanted to believe did and the story has been changed along the game of Chinese whispers.
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 12th January 20:13
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 12th January 20:14
technodup said:
Aye OK, nothing to see here. Use your big bad government sledgehammer to crack your Billy Boy nuts all you like.
The Scottish school system stinks. It by definition creates division. That you can't or won't see that isn't my problem. Once again for the avoidance of doubt I don't give a fk about religion, I'm notionally Protestant but a notion is all it is. My default position is for government to do less, always. Which is why I can't believe (well it is the SNP) why they waste resources on garbage like this, which does nothing to solve the 'problem' (as evidenced by recent outbreaks of singing).
And remember this is singing we're talking about. Banning songs. In football stadia full of people who identify as protestants and rebels. It's utterly ludicrous.
Banning things rarely works. I don't have to give you a list of examples to prove the point. And the SNP certainly aren't smart enough to buck that trend.
Hullo...eh, oops I mean goodbye.
Blaming the schools is an absolute cop-out. What happens at football games has fThe Scottish school system stinks. It by definition creates division. That you can't or won't see that isn't my problem. Once again for the avoidance of doubt I don't give a f
k about religion, I'm notionally Protestant but a notion is all it is. My default position is for government to do less, always. Which is why I can't believe (well it is the SNP) why they waste resources on garbage like this, which does nothing to solve the 'problem' (as evidenced by recent outbreaks of singing). And remember this is singing we're talking about. Banning songs. In football stadia full of people who identify as protestants and rebels. It's utterly ludicrous.
Banning things rarely works. I don't have to give you a list of examples to prove the point. And the SNP certainly aren't smart enough to buck that trend.
Hullo...eh, oops I mean goodbye.
k all do with your schooling. The vast majority of the fans would have shared schools in their unbringing. Songs lead to anger that leads to trouble. It leads to a bad image that drags everyone in. Some people appear proud of the bad image.
We're not going to go down the words don't hurt route now are we? Let's not forget how offended people get with sensible opinions from people on the other side.
I'd bet if the punishment went as far as empty stadiums, people would learn fast.
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