Whatever happened to 4-4-2?

Whatever happened to 4-4-2?

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MiniMan64

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16,863 posts

189 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Is it a dead formation now? And if so why?

No one seems to play it anymore but lots of teams looking for "second" strikers at the mo, United play Rooney, Chelsea play Costa, City play Aguero, arsenal play Giroud, Spurs play Kane, Liverpool are about to have a difficult choice between Sturridge and Beneteke.

What's wrong with playing two strikers these days?

London424

12,826 posts

174 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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MiniMan64 said:
Is it a dead formation now? And if so why?

No one seems to play it anymore but lots of teams looking for "second" strikers at the mo, United play Rooney, Chelsea play Costa, City play Aguero, arsenal play Giroud, Spurs play Kane, Liverpool are about to have a difficult choice between Sturridge and Beneteke.

What's wrong with playing two strikers these days?
In the most simple terms you get out numbered in mid-field so never have the ball to make use of an additional striker.

I'm sure things will change, as all things do, and you'll get a more traditional 4-4-2 again at some point.

Blatter

852 posts

190 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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Chris Hughton is employing a 442 system at Brighton this season to good effect. We even beat leaders Ipswich today, so something to be said for it!

cabbron

416 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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Bournemouth played 442 against Norwich last Saturday and got absolutely owned.Can see Bournemouth going down.

cabbron

416 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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Blatter said:
Chris Hughton is employing a 442 system at Brighton this season to good effect. We even beat leaders Ipswich today, so something to be said for it!
Glad to see Ch has changed his ways, not so popular in Norwich however beating the scum earns a few brownie points!

DMN

2,983 posts

138 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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Football Tactics have always evolved. They are about fidning new space in which to play and countering the space that other teams have found.

Part of the reason England got stuck in the rut of 442 was the expulsion from European football in the 1980's. We where cut off from outside influence. The result is that we went from being fairly open to new ideas, to stuck with the mantra of "44fkig2". It also didn't help that the middle of pitches turned into a mud bath in winter, meaning the better talented players tended to play wide where the ground was less turned up.

There is a good book called Inverting the Pyramid that talks about the history of formations. It also details how and why they've changed over time. The author predicted the rise of the 4-6-0 formations and the use of "false-nines" such as Totti at Roma and Rooney at times for England and Man Utd.

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

137 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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DMN said:
Football Tactics have always evolved. They are about fidning new space in which to play and countering the space that other teams have found.

Part of the reason England got stuck in the rut of 442 was the expulsion from European football in the 1980's. We where cut off from outside influence. The result is that we went from being fairly open to new ideas, to stuck with the mantra of "44fkig2". It also didn't help that the middle of pitches turned into a mud bath in winter, meaning the better talented players tended to play wide where the ground was less turned up.

There is a good book called Inverting the Pyramid that talks about the history of formations. It also details how and why they've changed over time. The author predicted the rise of the 4-6-0 formations and the use of "false-nines" such as Totti at Roma and Rooney at times for England and Man Utd.
And Messi for Barca.

pinchmeimdreamin

9,837 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th September 2015
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MiniMan64 said:
Is it a dead formation now? And if so why?

Liverpool are about to have a difficult choice between Sturridge and Beneteke.
Rodgers will play both.




Only 1 will be in defence frown